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DR. PEPPER,, that old law and all past state and federal  laws purporting to criminalize burning or other desecration of the American flag have been struck down as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.  Such laws being invalid,  there is therefore no such differential applicability as you ignorantly assert. Read all about it here:

http://civilliberty.about.com/...ch/p/flagburning.htm

Remarkably, according to the First Amendment Center, a respected organization headquartered in Tennessee:  "Although the U.S. Supreme Court has twice invalidated state flag laws, 47 states still have on the books laws, many modeled after the Uniform Flag Law of 1917, that prohibit the desecration of the flag or its use for advertising and publicity purposes."

http://www.firstamendmentcente...flag-protection-laws

Those laws, though on the books, can not be enforced, having been invalidated by the highest court in the land.

Now go ahead if you still wish to "get the word out."  But the word you get out will be BOGUS. And if you have already begun to disseminate this crapola, integrity would dictate that you again contact the members of your e-mail community whom you have misled and correct your error.

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giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Beternnun should be ashamed of himself on so many levels.

giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Good idea.

giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

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Bestworking posted:
Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

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My mistake-yes. And I acknowledge it.  Now would YOU like to address the substantive issue being discussed here?

Contendahh posted:
Bestworking posted:
Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

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Your warped reply is utterly without merit. There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice.  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive.  Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying.  Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  SHAME on you.

Best? There you go again, no idea who you are posting to. You gave Dire a rest this time. LOL!!

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My mistake-yes. And I acknowledge it.  Now would YOU like to address the substantive issue being discussed here?

What do you want to know? What do you want to discuss? Below is Gifted's post, and my reply. Then you went on your rampage, yapping about warped replies and you being accused of lying. Show me where either of that is true from our posts. Now I will call you a LIAR about your post.

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Look how happy Contendahh is about being able to desecrate the flag. Look how nasty he posts to someone that doesn't like it. Why not get the word out that people desecrating the flag are pigs, and the ones that think it is OK to do it are even bigger pigs?

Good idea.

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

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Bestworking posted:

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

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Congrats, Best; you have just achieved a new personal best in horsesassitude!

Contendahh posted:
Bestworking posted:

Your warped reply is utterly without merit. (What was warped about her reply?) There is NOTHING in what I posted that indicates any happiness on my part about flag desecration or any endorsement of the practice. (It was obvious.)  I clearly, and with documentation, pointed out a gross error in information posted by DR. PEPPER.  Neither you nor anyone else has found anything incorrect in my interpretation of this Constitutional issue.

Notice that I did not accuse DR.PEPPER of lying. (Who said you did?) It has become all too common in society and in this forum to characterize mistakenly incorrect information as a "lie."(Yes, that's all you dems do, when you aren't falsely accusing others of racism and racists attacks).  A lie is an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue, with intent to deceive. (We know the definition, you dems do it all the time). Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding is not lying. (Propagating an ignorant misunderstanding? Misunderstanding?)   Nevertheless, such misinformation should be corrected in a timely manner before it is repeated and misleads others. (Why don't you dems do that instead of starting the lies/misunderstandings in the attempt to mislead others?) In the last line of his post, DR.PEPPER encouraged such repetition ("...let's see how many shares we can get to get the word out.").  I suggested instead that he get the CORRECT word out to any whom he might have already misinformed.(She suggested something too, and you didn't like it.)

Are you interested in TRUTH, Best, or simply in twisting distorting what I have done here in my pursuit of the truth?  (I'm not interested in YOUR truth because as anyone can see, it's twisted, distorted and made up.)SHAME on you. (No beternnun, once again, SHAME ON YOU!)

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Congrats, Best; you have just achieved a new personal best in horsesassitude!

No way anyone could take that away from YOU!!!

The thing that I keep remembering is how the Trump protesters fly the Mexican flag, proudly, as if they are in Mexico.  In fact they actually do believe that sections of the United States and parts of, if not all of, California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are Mexico and that the United States stole it from Mexico.  They honestly feel that it still belongs to Mexico so they are not illegal but that Americans are for living there.  This is why they fly their Mexican flags and if you look at their protest signs you will see their intent and their belief.  As for their treatment of the American flag I fully believe that it should be illegal for their intent is not protesting as in the first amendment but rather to overcome and replace the American Flag with the Mexican flag and take back what they perceive as America taking their land. 

I think that the best thing, given today's activities and happenings, to do with the American flag is to fly it upside down.

Because surely we are a land and people in distressful times.

 

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GBRK said

I think that the best thing, given today's activities and happenings, to do with the American flag is to fly it upside down.

Because surely we are a land and people in distressful times.

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If you were joking about the flag, it wasn't funny. If you aren't
joking please explain why your suggestion would help...
mad American posted:

It is not, in my opinion a form of speech, but a criminal act.  How ever "if" it is a protected form of speech, then the people practicing that form of speech should have any and all government benefits stripped, no welfare, food stamps or medicare  on the taxpayers dime. 

You're absolutely right......

budsfarm posted:

Any person who knowingly mutilates ... any flag of the United States shall be ...fined ... imprisoned.  Old school, huh?

But what if that was the good part?

https://www.google.com/webhp?h...nding+the+flag+video

Any libbers have any doubt just how far their 1st A rights go, meet me and my buds at the flagpole.

 

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Veterans and others who illegally take violent action against flag burners, desecrators, etc. are naively playing into the hands of the latter, stimulating publicity for their shameful acts.  Macho vets and other self-anointed protectors of the flag would do well to follow the model of the good folks of Pulaski, Tennessee, who simply ignored a Klan rally planned for their town, closed down local businesses and let the bigots have the town square to their racist selves.

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

mad American posted:

It is not, in my opinion a form of speech, but a criminal act.  How ever "if" it is a protected form of speech, then the people practicing that form of speech should have any and all government benefits stripped, no welfare, food stamps or medicare  on the taxpayers dime. 

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Your opinion and the law are two different things.  And your proposed denial of benefits to persons seen by the courts as exercising their right of free expression simply will not work, being unconstitutional.

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

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You sure like to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of people, and you would be right at home with the RACISTS in Pulaski or anywhere else. Or, in your mind, do YOU get a pass on your racism because you sling the racist remarks at people you don't like?

Bestworking posted:

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

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You sure like to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of people, and you would be right at home with the RACISTS in Pulaski or anywhere else. Or, in your mind, do YOU get a pass on your racism because you sling the racist remarks at people you don't like?

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Y-a-a-a-w-w-n... More absolutist drivel from the forum harridan.

Bestworking posted:

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

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You sure like to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of people, and you would be right at home with the RACISTS in Pulaski or anywhere else. Or, in your mind, do YOU get a pass on your racism because you sling the racist remarks at people you don't like?

Contendahh posted:
Bestworking posted:

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

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You sure like to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of people, and you would be right at home with the RACISTS in Pulaski or anywhere else. Or, in your mind, do YOU get a pass on your racism because you sling the racist remarks at people you don't like?

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Y-a-a-a-w-w-n... More absolutist drivel from the forum harridan.

Ho hum, more from the forum racist, hypocritical, woman hating, drama queen beternnun.

Jack Flash posted:

GBRK said

I think that the best thing, given today's activities and happenings, to do with the American flag is to fly it upside down.

Because surely we are a land and people in distressful times.

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If you were joking about the flag, it wasn't funny. If you aren't
joking please explain why your suggestion would help...

Didn't mean to take so long in replying but I missed the question and thus only read it today.  I wasn't joking I assure you.  As I'm sure you know or many do flying an American flag is a sign of distress or a nation in urgent distress.  With the protest, of Trump, in California and the highlighting of the way the American flag, America is being seen and treated along with the number of illegals coming across the borders unchecked, a great many, if not the majority, believing that the Southwestern United States actually belongs to Mexico still, I believe our nation is in dire shape.

Economically with an unsustainable multi-trillion dollar debt, more people than ever on government support, welfare and benefits being given to illegals ( http://www.washingtonexaminer....lies/article/2590744 ) often exceeding what we give our own citizens, along with illegals openly disrespecting America and Americans like they did waving the Mexican flag and declaring parts of America their own country or that it should be their own country then seeing our nation importing far more than we ever have and producing far less than we ever have, I think we are definitely in severe distress as a Nation.

We seem to, as a nation, care more about redefining marriage, allowing transgender issues to overshadow the fact that almost half of the people in our nation are on some kind of governmental support and a trade difference that along with robotics means that very likely more and more people graduating college will not be able to find gainful employment doing what they actually want and trained to do  when they get out of school. 

Actually I don't have enough room to detail all the issues that I believe puts our nation in dire jeopardy of losing what made us great in the first place and altering the future of our kids and grandkids to the point that their lives have no hope of achieving the level of comfort and freedom that we enjoy today and enjoyed in our lifetimes.

I agree it's not a laughing matter and not funny, it's very serious, and I fully believe it is about time to declare that openly and to fly the flag upside down symbolizing that dire condition.  We are one judge away, on the Supreme Court, the third category of Government with it's check and balances, from achieving a completely POLITICAL Court that goes from interpreting the Constitution to rewriting it by Judicial Advocacy and Judicial review.  Very easily, with another political judge or appointment the 2nd and 1st amendments or any others could be radically altered as well as other issues that now face our nation being exacerbated. 

If the picture of the flag flying upside down offended you I do apologize for that but I also do believe our Nation is at a point, economically, trade wise, militarily, immigration wise and politically that very well could signify a critically dangerous point of dire shape where lives are threatened and our freedom, as we know it, is under threat.  If my opinion is completely wrong and misplaced then by all means please correct me where I'm wrong but the photo wasn't meant in a joking manner nor was the comment.  I do feel our nation is close to a tipping point where profound changes will alter the future for our children, grand children, and even our own lives.  If on the other hand you believe it to be our best times and a rosie situation then by all means enlighten me as to my errors and explain to me why I should be excited and encouraged rather than fearful and concerned.  Why the, apparently, illegals carrying Mexican flags and feeling that from Texas over to California and many states in between are actually Mexico's rather than the United States is a good thing and progress.  I can always be wrong so I'm willing to listen as to why I should be encouraged rather than discouraged.  And once again I'm sorry it took so long to respond as I didn't intend to allow this much time to go between your question to me and my response.   I don't know that flying the flag upside down would help but something needs to be done to (my opinion mind you) enlighten and bring to notice many things that are going on and pending that could make our Nation an entirely different place to live for our Children and Grand Children.  At what point in time do you hope people take notice and realize there may be, or is, a problem that needs attention and how is best to get that point across to people?

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There's nothing wrong with a person,(s) a ship or the many
different emergency situations flying the flag upside down.
But to admit to the rest of the world we can't handle the
troubles within our country isn't who we are and never
have been.
We are in this mess because American citizens are too
stupid to vote. Period. It should be 21 years old, an
American citizen for no less than five years with a five year
residence. That's not what we have today.
I would declare war on mexico and cuba, industrialize both
for the betterment of this country.
And if anyone wants to talk due process they might end up in
puerto rico, one very large off s**** prison.
 
iran would be one huge single sheet of desert glass you
could imagine. Those would be acceptable starting points.
Contendahh posted:
budsfarm posted:

Any person who knowingly mutilates ... any flag of the United States shall be ...fined ... imprisoned.  Old school, huh?

But what if that was the good part?

https://www.google.com/webhp?h...nding+the+flag+video

Any libbers have any doubt just how far their 1st A rights go, meet me and my buds at the flagpole.

 

____

Veterans and others who illegally take violent action against flag burners, desecrators, etc. are naively playing into the hands of the latter, stimulating publicity for their shameful acts.  Macho vets and other self-anointed protectors of the flag would do well to follow the model of the good folks of Pulaski, Tennessee, who simply ignored a Klan rally planned for their town, closed down local businesses and let the bigots have the town square to their racist selves.

But I suppose it is more fun to swagger and interfere with the free speech rights of the flag burners.

Actually, this is more fun

Cleveland Police: Protester Lights Himself On Fire While Trying To Burn American Flag

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20...olice-protests-flag/

 

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