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Protesters walk on Stars and Stripes; veteran banned from university for taking flag from demonstrators

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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:29 pm

VALDOSTA — A military veteran was detained but not charged by Valdosta State University police after she approached a group of protesters on campus who were walking on an American flag and took it from them.

Michelle Manhart, an Air Force veteran, said she was not planning to take the flag from the group, but she had heard about the group’s recent campus demonstrations and wanted to take action.

 

“I did not want anything like this, but I got a call from a student who told me that the flag was on the ground, and they were walking on it,” said Manhart. “I was just going over there to pick up the flag off the ground. I don’t know what their cause is, but I went to pick it up because it doesn’t deserve to be on the ground.”

Manhart said she was taken into custody by VSU police officers who then returned the flag to the demonstrators. She admitted to The Valdosta Daily Times that she resisted arrest after seeing the flag being returned.

The group reportedly declined to press charges against Manhart. The officers attempting to detain her also declined to press charges for resisting.

Instead, Manhart was given a criminal trespass warning which effectively bans her from any university activity, including graduation and football games, said Andy Clark, vice president for enrollment, marketing and communications.

The demonstrators declined to identify their group to The Valdosta Daily Times or speak with a reporter about their cause, but they did engage VSU students in heated debate.

One member of the group who declined to speak with The Valdosta Daily Times or identify himself told a VSU student that putting the American flag on the ground and walking on it was “a symbol of our protest. When a slave understands his situation and understands he doesn’t want to be in slavery, he does not respect or revere anything his slavemaster has put in front of him.”

Manhart said she was not on campus long enough to discern the group’s message. However, she said if the cause was racism, she agreed with the cause but opposed the method of protest.

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This was in the Valdosta news paper. I don't know if I got the video or not. The video shows people walking on the American flag. A young lady picks it up to attempt to take it to be disposed of properly. A couple of the protesters confront her, then Valdosta police take the flag away from her and give it back to the protesters and police take her away in handcuffs.

The protesters are human garbage and the police are the worst ones.

Any better opinions?

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What's your problem? This is exactly what you lefties want. Anything that disrespects and tears down this country is fine with you. You're not so upset that you can't take another stab at cops. If they hadn't done their 'job' you lefties would be calling for their firing and ruination.

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Best, you have got to be the poster child for right wing tea party hatred.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What's your problem? This is exactly what you lefties want. Anything that disrespects and tears down this country is fine with you. You're not so upset that you can't take another stab at cops. If they hadn't done their 'job' you lefties would be calling for their firing and ruination.

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Best, you have got to be the poster child for right wing tea party hatred.

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Nah, just filled up with hatred, bitterness, and jealousy.

Nah, just filled up with hatred, bitterness, and jealousy

 

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Hatred, when dealing with democrats, is a normal and healthy emotion. It keeps one from being too close to repugnant and dangerous things such as the dems, and forces you to keep an eye on them. The dems hatred of all things except the gimme lines and programs, and their desire for the destruction of the country, is what's abnormal and twisted.

Bitter? Same as calling people "racists". Tired old worn out attempted insult.

Jealous? Actually the same as the attempted "bitter" insult. Far from being jealous of a flipping democrap, I thank my lucky stars I am not addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless, in other words, a member of the democritic party. When you talk about a pack of jealous twits and,well, fill in the blank, you're talking about the democrits. The so called 'men' of the democratic party are a pack of hysterical drama queens and old hens, and the women are the masculine ones. Either get some new material or give up trying to insult people.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by mad American:
Yeah, they have the right to free speech.  But, if they hate the United States that much, they should leave. I don't think removing what ever government money the students and university receive would be violating their rights.

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I agree and I also think that for some flag desecration is hate speech. If some fools in dunce caps and white bedlinen were to stand outside that school and call those retards N-words, they would get their asses handed to them and the kluxers would go to jail. I suspect that if a few carloads of VFW and American Legion folks arrived to do the same to those idiots treading on the flag they served under, it would be the vets going to jail. Such is the inequity of the law.

Hatred, when dealing with democrats, is a normal and healthy emotion. It keeps one from being too close to repugnant and dangerous things such as the dems, and forces you to keep an eye on them. The dems hatred of all things except the gimme lines and programs, and their desire for the destruction of the country, is what's abnormal and twisted.

Bitter? Same as calling people "racists". Tired old worn out attempted insult.

Jealous? Actually the same as the attempted "bitter" insult. Far from being jealous of a flipping democrap, I thank my lucky stars I am not addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless, in other words, a member of the democritic party. When you talk about a pack of jealous twits and,well, fill in the blank, you're talking about the democrits. The so called 'men' of the democratic party are a pack of hysterical drama queens and old hens, and the women are the masculine ones. Either get some new material or give up trying to insult people.

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Best, in your life, what have you ever done to preserve the United States of America?

You rant and rave and name call anyone who might vote democrat. I repeat, what have you ever done in your perfect life to preserve America and it's people?

Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by mad American:
Yeah, they have the right to free speech.  But, if they hate the United States that much, they should leave. I don't think removing what ever government money the students and university receive would be violating their rights.

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I agree and I also think that for some flag desecration is hate speech. If some fools in dunce caps and white bedlinen were to stand outside that school and call those retards N-words, they would get their asses handed to them and the kluxers would go to jail. I suspect that if a few carloads of VFW and American Legion folks arrived to do the same to those idiots treading on the flag they served under, it would be the vets going to jail. Such is the inequity of the law.

 

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Bazinga!  Just to go see Michelle do it again.

 

And the flag?  Molon labe. 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

If, i still lived in Georgia, my representative, state senator and the governor's office would receive demands that VSU's state support be decreased.  Make the protest, suffer the results.

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Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

If, i still lived in Georgia, my representative, state senator and the governor's office would receive demands that VSU's state support be decreased.  Make the protest, suffer the results.

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Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

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Meant what I said!  If, the students demonstrating in such a despicable manner for so long were confronted by a massive number of their own, they would have packed up and gone to their dorms.

Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

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 The college administration affirmed their support for the "peaceful" demonstrators on campus, and gave a life time campus ban to the one protecting the flag. (she had it protected til the police got there) Some college administrators could use a lifetime ban.

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What's your problem? This is exactly what you lefties want. Anything that disrespects and tears down this country is fine with you. You're not so upset that you can't take another stab at cops. If they hadn't done their 'job' you lefties would be calling for their firing and ruination.

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Best, you have got to be the poster child for right wing tea party hatred.

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Nah, just filled up with hatred, bitterness, and jealousy.

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That sounds more like you seeweed. No, that is you.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

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 The college administration affirmed their support for the "peaceful" demonstrators on campus, and gave a life time campus ban to the one protecting the flag. (she had it protected til the police got there) Some college administrators could use a lifetime ban.

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As a legal matter, the lady had no right to intrude upon the odious demonstration and as a legal matter, the demonstrators had the right to offend the flag.  We do not have to approve of their 

actions, but no one has the right to interfere with their First Amendment rights.  Best thing to do is to ignore them, as the citizens of Pulaski, Tennessee did some years back when the KKK staged a rally there.  They could not legally prohibit the rally, but the shops all closed and the citizens stayed home and let the KKK wallow in its bigotry with no audience or interference.  The media reported this rally and how silly it made the KKK look.  The citizens of Pulaski were widely praised for their intelligent response.  Demonstrators like the KKK and the flag stompers crave attention.  The best thing to do is to ignore the vermin.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

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 The college administration affirmed their support for the "peaceful" demonstrators on campus, and gave a life time campus ban to the one protecting the flag. (she had it protected til the police got there) Some college administrators could use a lifetime ban.

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As a legal matter, the lady had no right to intrude upon the odious demonstration and as a legal matter, the demonstrators had the right to offend the flag.  We do not have to approve of their 

actions, but no one has the right to interfere with their First Amendment rights.  Best thing to do is to ignore them, as the citizens of Pulaski, Tennessee did some years back when the KKK staged a rally there.  They could not legally prohibit the rally, but the shops all closed and the citizens stayed home and let the KKK wallow in its bigotry with no audience or interference.  The media reported this rally and how silly it made the KKK look.  The citizens of Pulaski were widely praised for their intelligent response.  Demonstrators like the KKK and the flag stompers crave attention.  The best thing to do is to ignore the vermin.

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This was a continuous demonstration,  Sometimes, vermin must be instructed their actions may have consequences they will not enjoy.

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

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 The college administration affirmed their support for the "peaceful" demonstrators on campus, and gave a life time campus ban to the one protecting the flag. (she had it protected til the police got there) Some college administrators could use a lifetime ban.

____

 

As a legal matter, the lady had no right to intrude upon the odious demonstration and as a legal matter, the demonstrators had the right to offend the flag.  We do not have to approve of their 

actions, but no one has the right to interfere with their First Amendment rights.  Best thing to do is to ignore them, as the citizens of Pulaski, Tennessee did some years back when the KKK staged a rally there.  They could not legally prohibit the rally, but the shops all closed and the citizens stayed home and let the KKK wallow in its bigotry with no audience or interference.  The media reported this rally and how silly it made the KKK look.  The citizens of Pulaski were widely praised for their intelligent response.  Demonstrators like the KKK and the flag stompers crave attention.  The best thing to do is to ignore the vermin.

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This was a continuous demonstration,  Sometimes, vermin must be instructed their actions may have consequences they will not enjoy.

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The First Amendment does not discriminate between continuous demonstrations and less-than-continuous demonstrations.  First Amendment rights are not intermittent.

Let white students put down a black panther's flag and walk on it. Sounds like a party.

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I wouldn't mind, some would call it a hate crime.

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Enjoy it jt, this is what you vote for.

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I don't recall walking on the flag to be what a serious democrat campaigned for.

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Best, have you decided to post what you have done to preserve America? You always invent new phrases to downgrade a democrat, what have you done to preserve America?

 

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Sure--punish ALL the students and faculty there for the actions of a few. You usually at least try to make a little sense, dire; what happened here?

-----------------------

 The college administration affirmed their support for the "peaceful" demonstrators on campus, and gave a life time campus ban to the one protecting the flag. (she had it protected til the police got there) Some college administrators could use a lifetime ban.

____

 

As a legal matter, the lady had no right to intrude upon the odious demonstration and as a legal matter, the demonstrators had the right to offend the flag.  We do not have to approve of their 

actions, but no one has the right to interfere with their First Amendment rights.  Best thing to do is to ignore them, as the citizens of Pulaski, Tennessee did some years back when the KKK staged a rally there.  They could not legally prohibit the rally, but the shops all closed and the citizens stayed home and let the KKK wallow in its bigotry with no audience or interference.  The media reported this rally and how silly it made the KKK look.  The citizens of Pulaski were widely praised for their intelligent response.  Demonstrators like the KKK and the flag stompers crave attention.  The best thing to do is to ignore the vermin.

____________________________________

This was a continuous demonstration,  Sometimes, vermin must be instructed their actions may have consequences they will not enjoy.

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The First Amendment does not discriminate between continuous demonstrations and less-than-continuous demonstrations.  First Amendment rights are not intermittent.

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As are my First amendment rights to demand they pay a price for their demonstration.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Nah, just filled up with hatred, bitterness, and jealousy

 

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 " I thank my lucky stars I am not addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless, in other words, a member of the democritic party. When you talk about a pack of jealous twits and,well, fill in the blank, you're talking about the democrits."

 

Shame on you. You shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. Your hatred of Dems assures that this country will never be great again because it's no longer Americans pulling together, it's Republicans versus Democrats. Rage on with your finger up yer butt or get off it and try to make the world a better place.

 

For every boneheaded thing a Dem has said or done a similar thing can be found that a Republican, Tea Partier or Independent said or did.

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Dems in power is what will assure this country will never be great again. It better get to be everyone is against the democrats. Why would I be the least bit interested in working with a group intent on destroying this country? As posted before, I try to make this country better by voting, speaking, and working against the democrats.  As for the world, they're on their own as far as I am concerned. They sure as h*** don't care about this country except to send their trash here to help take it over.  Finger up the butt. How mature of you. At least I'm not a democrap that takes your finger out of your butt and sticks it in your mouth and tells you how good you have to say it tastes. I said what I said, I stand by it, don't like it, keep voting for the snakes in the democratic party. As jack said, one consolation, if we can call it that, is that people like you that support the left will be living in the same third world ****hole as everyone else after the left finally destroys the country.

I try to make this country better by voting, speaking, and working against the democrats.  

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That's a real good way to insure that America will fail. Spending all your efforts against something instead of being for something. I can't believe you were that honest, not caring whether or not  America succeeds, only caring that someone in America fails.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I try to make this country better by voting, speaking, and working against the democrats.  

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That's a real good way to insure that America will fail. Spending all your efforts against something instead of being for something. I can't believe you were that honest, not caring whether or not  America succeeds, only caring that someone in America fails.

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Do you ever 'listen' to yourself? Seriously? I want America to succeed, I want it out of the clutches of foreign interests and the democrats. That is why I work against, vote against, and speak out against the things that are bringing it down, the democrats. I can't believe you are as hopelessly stupid as you are, but you prove it with every post you make. How about you sport, what are you doing when you run down the Republican and Tea Party? You are spending your efforts being against something. But you are a democratic hypocrite, and you think what you do is fine.

How about this post of yours on another thread where you whine about Republicans and Tea Party members. Is this what you mean by 'working' for something? By the way, a loyal Republican WILL BE anti-hillary. You keep putting it out there, you're going to keep getting it back.

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Are the vandals simply anti Hillary or loyal republicans

 
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There have been some Republicans I liked and some I didn't like. The same with Democrats and every other political party. I have voted for people in all parties because I thought they would do the best for us, not because they belong to 1 certain party. I am first and foremost an American.

 

I took umbrage at you calling me "addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless." That is a way more mature sentence than my one about taking your finger out of your butt and working to make this country better. I may not agree with you but I try not to call people stupid because they don't agree with me. I also realize that you can't insist that all people in a certain political party are all the same.

 

I can say Obama is the devil. I can say the Bushes are the devil. Is either one true? Matter of opinion. Is my opinion right and yours wrong? No and vice versa. Why spend so much time on who's opinion is the right one?

Originally Posted by peede coober:

There have been some Republicans I liked and some I didn't like. The same with Democrats and every other political party. I have voted for people in all parties because I thought they would do the best for us, not because they belong to 1 certain party. I am first and foremost an American.

 

 I am an American. That is why I will not vote for or support in any way any democrat. In my first few years of voting I made the mistake of voting for a few. I regret it so much, and will never do it again. There is not a democrat that will do anything good for this country. There is not a democrat that cares about the welfare of the county.

 

I took umbrage at you calling me "addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless." That is a way more mature sentence than my one about taking your finger out of your butt and working to make this country better. I may not agree with you but I try not to call people stupid because they don't agree with me. I also realize that you can't insist that all people in a certain political party are all the same.

 

 I didn't call YOU anything. If you don't like my opinion, that is just too **** bad, and as I said, take your own finger out of your ***, or better yet, take your head out of your ***, and see what the democrats are doing to our country.

 

I can say Obama is the devil. I can say the Bushes are the devil. Is either one true? Matter of opinion. Is my opinion right and yours wrong? No and vice versa. Why spend so much time on who's opinion is the right one?

 

 The lowest opinion of obama anyone has is right. The devil? Don't make me laugh, you dems called Bush that and more. Asking why I spend time on who's 'opinion' is right or wrong is one of the dumbest statements yet. I 'spend time' because my future, my children's future, and their children's future and so on depend on 'spending time' on it. As I posted, I don't see you giving your comrades in arms the little "can't we all get along speech". Typical. Crying about what others say about dems and ignoring the most vile things the left says about the Republicans and Tea Party members is what you lefties call doing what's best for the country.

 

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I took umbrage at you calling me "addled, brain dead, lazy, hateful and useless." 

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He's trying to build up your image.

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I want America to succeed, I want it out of the clutches of foreign interests and the democrats. That is why I work against, vote against, and speak out against the things that are bringing it down, the democrats. 

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I repeat, you are only anti and against. You ought to be for. That would be a positive thing. All the negative stuff only weakens America. BTW. your post proves that, you're only against.

Originally Posted by peede coober:

There have been some Republicans I liked and some I didn't like. The same with Democrats and every other political party. I have voted for people in all parties because I thought they would do the best for us, not because they belong to 1 certain party. I am first and foremost an American.

 

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   Uh, where'd you go Semi?

 

 

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