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Florence City Dress Code = idiocy

GTO4everGTO4everHall of Famer
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Originally posted by indopus:
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Thats my take on the situation with the school board, I think they have good intentions in trying to teach the kids respect, self-esteem and discpline while at the same time finding ways to bring the overall test scores up.


Respect is finding out that you have control over your own appearence and that some corporation, public school, or government cannot dictate that.


Only if your parents allow it.
L LayZeeDayzeSmall Talker
I don't have a problem with kids wearing college team shirts on a designated "special dress" day. My complaint is that the dress code has gone a little extreme with things like not being able to wear a t-shirt with any type of design or emblem on it over a certain size and wearing the shirts tucked in at all times.

What is wrong with girls wearing shirts with a large butterfly or flower on the front, or in a boy's case with a car/motorcycle/truck on it. Some kids start putting on a little weight around the 7th grade and become more conscious of their bodies. Tucking in a shirt can be extremely uncomfortable and make a kid more self-conscious about their weight/size. And what's wrong with wearing a sleeveless shirt,especially this time of year with the weather so warm.

And, again, I think the teachers should have to follow some type of dress code like the students. You don't seen teachers with their shirts tucked in or having to wear shirts with some type of sleeve. Last night at orientation I saw a teacher wearing a skirt that was so short I felt embarrassed for her and with a spaghetti strap shirt. Believe it or not I AM NOT a prude and when I asked another parent (who has a child in 7th and 9th grades) about her, I was told that was her usual way of dressing even during her work hours.
earthmommaearthmommaOld Faithful
Yes, FSC has gone overboard. But before you get so carried away wth no dress restrictions at all, visit a school wirh no restrictions between classes. Your child may be dressed appropriatedly at these schools, but everyone is not you!! I hate to be sexist but those of you who whoo think that a male's learning capacity and concentration is not affected by the way 5th graders and up dress have never read Freud----or been an adolescent male. There is only so much psyhic energy and if it is used on one thing it can not be used on another! Again, this is unconscious---not bad boys...as an old old female I cannot see why anyone can be turned on by boys ormens's droopy drawers! ( Save me from those tight jeans!!!!) Vick, you have older boys--check with them and see what they think. Dogsoldier, you know. Weigh in on this.. I would love to be wrong. Also, take a pair of real cargo pants and see what all you can pack into the pockets that does not need to be in school!
G Gemini-blueMember
Earthmamma- I like you. You make a lot of sense. I have lived/gone to school where uniforms were required, where they were not required and there was a lax dress code, and where there was a strictly enforced dress code. In the one where uniforms was required, grades were excellent, the school was one of the top in the state. Where the dress code was strictly enforced (but the kids could pretty much wear what they wanted with a few exceptions) the grades were not as good, but okay. And then there was the one with the lax code----- there were 2 or 3 fights weekly (males and females) over someone making comments about someone else's "tacky" "cheap" "old fashioned" clothing. And as for the grades----"Grades? You mean we come to school to make grades"? was the overall feeling of the students. The teachers and school officials did the best they could, but eventuall the school was closed down and the students had to go to one of the schools with the enforced dress code... guess what? Their grades came up, they developed a sense of pride, their self-respect and self-esteem shot up...... all because they were made to care about something other than their clothing choices.
_Joy__Joy_Old Faithful
Good points, earthmomma & Gemini-blue. I actually shudder to think what would be worn without a dress code. When my kids went to a county school, which are a little more lax than city, I was shocked at what I saw some of the girls show up in. It was ridiculous. And you are right. What normal teenage boy can concentrate on geometry with bare female legs & cleavage in the desk beside him?
* ******14>Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by doppleraea:
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
What does this have to do with dress? My kids are both on honor roll, are involved or have been in football, soccer, dance, piano, choir etc. Very intelligent. So why would anyone tell them how to dress? If my daughter is wearing something suggestive then I can see me correcting her for her own well being or if my son wears something that is disrespectful. But WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A DRESS CODE?????? I dont get it. Dress has nothing to do with intelligence or how you spend your time and brain power.............


Obviously, if you are going to have to have a dress code, it means everyone has to follow it, not just your darling children. The purpose of my post was to say they can express themselves in other ways at school other than dress. But, I assumed others could figure it out. And, there have been studies that show the better you dress for school, the more attention you pay to school. I'm not saying these studies are 100% accurate, but there is a correlation between dress student achievement.

Honestly, as an educator, I'd rather not have to deal with dress codes either, but until students come dressed like they have some parents, dress codes will be necessary.

Why is it that all parents want to do is fight the schools when most of the decisions that are made are honestly trying to improve schools? It is almost if parents are trying to purposefully stifle progression in schools. It usually makes me a sad educator. And no, I'm not just talking about dress codes - all this week has been nothing but complaining about schools. No one is perfect, and especially not teachers, but I guarantee you 95% of the teachers out there have student's best interests in mind when making decisions.

Just remember - educators don't mind asking questions and explaining actions. What educators mind is the belittling and constant condescending actions of parents. Work together for your child's future, not against.


Fight the schools? This is not me at all. I supply everything the teacher asks for, help in anyway that I can, help in class, go on the field trips and support the decisions that the teachers make and expect my children to respect them. Just because someone disagrees with you doesnt mean that they are "belittling you". See the difference here is I will see that what is best is done for my children. PERIOD. My family followed the dress code while we were in the FSC system. Now that they are at Brooks I am happy they dont have to do that anymore. But that was not the reason we left. See the fact is that I didnt want them in FSC system because it is a MESS. I did not discuss the dress code with my children. They followed the rules because they were the rules. On this forum I was discussing my point of view as a parent with other "adults". That has nothing to do with my children, their teachers or their policy.
* ******14>Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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But WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A DRESS CODE?????? I dont get it. Dress has nothing to do with intelligence or how you spend your time and brain power.............



Kids (yes, even your own little darlings) can be very mean and snobbish when it comes to clothing.


I totally disagree. Children being snobbish and mean, comes from LACK OF PARENTING. I DO NOT LET my children get away with disrespect in any form or fashion.
FirenzeVeritasFirenzeVeritasOld Faithful
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Originally posted by OriginalBama:
Oh to be cruel....... i say make Florence students wear blue polyester shirts with black polyester pants/skirt and white patent leather shoes..... ya know.... just for fun cause we wore it. And maybe add a white belt.


Yes, Mr. Tarlek, or may I call you Herb? But just think how many polyesters had to die to make those clothes.
V vick13Old Faithful
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I totally disagree. Children being snobbish and mean, comes from LACK OF PARENTING. I DO NOT LET my children get away with disrespect in any form or fashion.



I'm sure you don't. And I'm sure they aren't disrespectful IN YOUR PRESENCE. I've raised three and while I don't THINK they're disrespectful either I'm not naive enough to think that peer pressure doesn't play a huge part in the way they behave "out there". I remember the kids from the nicest families were so different away from the parents when I was a kid. I've also learned to never say never when it comes to what your kids are doing, cause, hunny, it will bite you in the butt.
P ^PuF^Old Faithful
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I totally disagree. Children being snobbish and mean, comes from LACK OF PARENTING. I DO NOT LET my children get away with disrespect in any form or fashion.


Is this Mr. Eddie Haskell Senior or is it Mrs. Haskell?

Vick is right, peer pressure plays a large part in behavior when parents aren't around. And children, at some point, are going to try and get away with whatever they can. We did it, they do it and their children will do it and so on...
Any law enforcement officer can tell you stories of parents that argued their child was innocent of a certain mischief because they were "raised better than that" after the child had been caught red-handed doing he ought not have done.
GTO4everGTO4everHall of Famer
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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I totally disagree. Children being snobbish and mean, comes from LACK OF PARENTING. I DO NOT LET my children get away with disrespect in any form or fashion.


Is this Mr. Eddie Haskell Senior or is it Mrs. Haskell?

Vick is right, peer pressure plays a large part in behavior when parents aren't around. And children, at some point, are going to try and get away with whatever they can. We did it, they do it and their children will do it and so on...
Any law enforcement officer can tell you stories of parents that argued their child was innocent of a certain mischief because they were "raised better than that" after the child had been caught red-handed doing he ought not have done.


I agree! I hope that they have uniforms in the dress code when my daughter goes to school. I really beleive it is the best idea for every one involved especially the students.
* ******14>Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by vick13:
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I totally disagree. Children being snobbish and mean, comes from LACK OF PARENTING. I DO NOT LET my children get away with disrespect in any form or fashion.



I'm sure you don't. And I'm sure they aren't disrespectful IN YOUR PRESENCE. I've raised three and while I don't THINK they're disrespectful either I'm not naive enough to think that peer pressure doesn't play a huge part in the way they behave "out there". I remember the kids from the nicest families were so different away from the parents when I was a kid. I've also learned to never say never when it comes to what your kids are doing, cause, hunny, it will bite you in the butt.



Lets say they went to school uniforms. Kids will still find something different to make fun of each other for. I PRAY I have taught mine better than that, and as of right now, so far so good. It will be someones teeth, someone stinks, your fat, your too tall, too skinny. Come on, if a kid is going to act up because of peer presure or what ever then it will ALWAYS be something if we strip them down naked. I know that my children are not always inocent. But, they do treat other children well, and I do beleive it is possible to raise them to respect others feelings.
mandomamamandomamaHall of Famer
I have a comment and a question.

My kids have gone to public, prep and parochial schools. After experiencing all three, I definitely LOVE uniforms. It makes dressing a snap, both for the parents and kids. A school that has snobs will have them regardless of what they are wearing. That is one of the reasons we left the prep school. It was like going to school with The Heathers. Our public school is great and doesn't have uniforms. Same with the Catholic school my kids attended. I think it has to do with the administration and their handle on the school and the involvement of parents. AND the cooperation of parents and administrators. When parents run a school, especially wealthy and powerful parents, there will be trouble.

My question is why is the Florence School System a mess? We are moving home soon and my kids were going to go to FHS. I know no school is perfect, but what's so bad about Florence?
KindredKindredOld Faithful
I remember having this same conversation/discussion on school dress codes this time last year.

Now again????? It appears to me as though schools are having a very difficult time getting the kids to wear appropriate clothing so they are having to make rules????

If that is the case, then I wonder just WHY a parent would fight them tooth and nail??? Do you realize what you are teaching your child? You are saying it is okay to fight the school and it is not okay to fight them. They are in school to learn, not to win beauty pagents or dress contests.

Since this issue is so hot again this year, I am assuming that last year, by listening to a few 'elite' parents they changed their minds on some things that ended up not working so they are making it more stringent. Anyone else think this might be the case?

I think all schools should have uniforms. I don't think parents should be able to tell a school how or what to make in their rule books. Uniforms are cheaper, easier to care for and it takes away the hard decision from the kid on "what to wear" that day....

C'mon, parents, please don't keep on teaching your kids it is okay to fight the rules. They are going to experience rules the rest of their lives, and you, as a parent has an obligation to TEACH them HOW to obey rules. Career's, even the best ones come with rules.

People who live by NO RULES are usually living off other people, homeless or THE OWNER.

Just my nickle, lol.
KindredKindredOld Faithful
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Originally posted by mandomama:
I have a comment and a question.

My kids have gone to public, prep and parochial schools. After experiencing all three, I definitely LOVE uniforms. It makes dressing a snap, both for the parents and kids. A school that has snobs will have them regardless of what they are wearing. That is one of the reasons we left the prep school. It was like going to school with The Heathers. Our public school is great and doesn't have uniforms. Same with the Catholic school my kids attended. I think it has to do with the administration and their handle on the school and the involvement of parents. AND the cooperation of parents and administrators. When parents run a school, especially wealthy and powerful parents, there will be trouble.

My question is why is the Florence School System a mess? We are moving home soon and my kids were going to go to FHS. I know no school is perfect, but what's so bad about Florence?



Same argument last year too!!! Whining parents basically won. Guess that is why they are trying a different angle this year?
meanasasnakemeanasasnakeOld Faithful
I totally support school uniforms and dress code. It is a proven fact that when students who attend private and public schools where uniforms are manditory you see less behavioral problems and better performance.

http://www.modrall.com/articles/article_13.html

For all you "conservatives" who claim to be most interested in a good education and safe environment for your kids this is a logical step. Freedom of expression is useless if you never learned what it means. All of the Beatles wore school uniforms, Billy Idol, Annie Lenox, Sting and every other British rocker. They hardly inhibit self expression.
zukerfuss@yahoo.comzukerfuss@yahoo.comSmall Talker
Mandomamma:
The school system is not really a "mess".... it's just changed drastically over the past 5 years or so. The biggest change has been the dress code. When I went to school, things in fashion now definitely weren't the things to wear to school... midriff-bearing blouses, spaghetti strap blouses, extremely short skirts/shorts, pants with the crotch down around the knees. With fashion like it is now, a lot of it has been deemed inappropriate for school wear by the board of education and I can understand some of it, but now no shirts can have any type of logo larger than 2x3 inches, you can't wear a top and pants the same color- they have to be 2 different colors or 2 different shades of the same color <ie, light blue top, dark blue bottom), no type of large design on the front or back of the shirt (although an all-over pattern <floral, polka dots, etc> is acceptable... I called the school and asked point-blank about this). Shorts/skirts/dresses can be no shorter than 2 inches above the knee (I don't have a problem with this at all), shirts MUST be tucked in (kind of dumb if you ask me.... some shirts, especially for girls, are not made to be tucked in), if the pants have belt loops a belt with an unobstrusive buckle MUST be worn, pants must sit at the natural waistline and pant legs cannot touch the floor; no holes/patches, no pockets on the sides of the legs (cargo/carpenter pants), no windsuits... and if I'm not mistaken sweat shirts can be worn, but not sweatpants.... no v-necks shirts for girls, no low-cut, sleeveless, see-through tops. More on this subject later...
T S CT S COld Faithful
I agree that uniforms are great. And to the parents who think they will be buying twice as many clothes for their kids or their kids will look like dorks - that is not the case at all.

We went from Florence, AL (Forest Hills) to Atlanta, GA. All of the Dekalb County schools have uniforms. (FYI- Atlanta is in Cobb, Fulton, and Dekalb counties). The children wore khaki or navy pants and a solid red, white, or blue polo or oxford. At first my daughter balked and threw a fit. After 3 days she was fine with it. Getting ready for school was quick and easy. I bought all of her school clothes in Florence at Martins. She had 3 pair of khakis and 2 pair of navy pants (I think they were $14.99 each) and then she had 2 red, 2 navy, and 2 white polo shirts and a couple of oxfords. I know I didn't spend a ton of money, and the school operated a "Uniform Shop" where you could sell the clothes (if they were in good shape) after your child outgrew them. Then they donated these clothes to the kids who couldn't afford them.

Uniforms were great, no doubt, but the #1 thing that Dekalb had right that this area has so wrong is parent involvement. Parents were not asked to be involved, they were required to get involved. When parents are involved with the teachers, administrators, lunch ladies, and staff things go a lot smoother. It is one thing to hear teachers complain about kids using lead pencils. As a parent you think "that is stupid". It is another thing to volunteer in their classroom and see the little pieces of lead that fall on the floor, see the marks it leaves with kids step on it, and help the teacher sweep, mop, and then scrub lead streaks off the floor on hands and knees with a large eraser!

Uniforms + Parent Involvement = Great Schools
mandomamamandomamaHall of Famer
My Lord, what a list!!! How does anybody get dressed and stay at school all day without being sent home with some infringement? Seems like the logical thing to do would be just go to complete school uniforms. I could never remember all those rules. As an outsider looking in, all these rules are ridiculous; just come up with a standard uniform and throw in some options with shorts, jackets, sweaters, etc.
KindredKindredOld Faithful
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Originally posted by T S C:
I agree that uniforms are great. And to the parents who think they will be buying twice as many clothes for their kids or their kids will look like dorks - that is not the case at all.

We went from Florence, AL (Forest Hills) to Atlanta, GA. All of the Dekalb County schools have uniforms. (FYI- Atlanta is in Cobb, Fulton, and Dekalb counties). The children wore khaki or navy pants and a solid red, white, or blue polo or oxford. At first my daughter balked and threw a fit. After 3 days she was fine with it. Getting ready for school was quick and easy. I bought all of her school clothes in Florence at Martins. She had 3 pair of khakis and 2 pair of navy pants (I think they were $14.99 each) and then she had 2 red, 2 navy, and 2 white polo shirts and a couple of oxfords. I know I didn't spend a ton of money, and the school operated a "Uniform Shop" where you could sell the clothes (if they were in good shape) after your child outgrew them. Then they donated these clothes to the kids who couldn't afford them.

Uniforms were great, no doubt, but the #1 thing that Dekalb had right that this area has so wrong is parent involvement. Parents were not asked to be involved, they were required to get involved. When parents are involved with the teachers, administrators, lunch ladies, and staff things go a lot smoother. It is one thing to hear teachers complain about kids using lead pencils. As a parent you think "that is stupid". It is another thing to volunteer in their classroom and see the little pieces of lead that fall on the floor, see the marks it leaves with kids step on it, and help the teacher sweep, mop, and then scrub lead streaks off the floor on hands and knees with a large eraser!

Uniforms + Parent Involvement = Great Schools



TSC, I totally agree with you here!!! And I think any parent who argues with the Schools to the point of pulling out their "political" buddies are doing a great disservice to their children.

They are teaching them the WRONG way of life.

LIFE itself has rules, and who are we going to argue with about that.... God???
KindredKindredOld Faithful
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Originally posted by mandomama:
My Lord, what a list!!! How does anybody get dressed and stay at school all day without being sent home with some infringement? Seems like the logical thing to do would be just go to complete school uniforms. I could never remember all those rules. As an outsider looking in, all these rules are ridiculous; just come up with a standard uniform and throw in some options with shorts, jackets, sweaters, etc.



I have seen young'uns out in public and just the THOUGHT of them going to school remotely looking like that is sickening!!!

Uniforms, or a very strict code is what kids need to get an education in bookwork and in life itself about obeying rules and learning what is and is not appropriate.
T S CT S COld Faithful
Let me see if I can shed some light on some of the school dress code...

midriff-bearing blouses, spaghetti strap blouses, extremely short skirts/shorts
  • teenage boys can't concentrate with all those distractions.

    pants with the crotch down around the knees.
  • If the crotch is around the knees than it creates a safety issue. A child could conceal something in pants that fit that way, like a knife or a gun.

    shirts can have any type of logo larger than 2x3 inches
  • I assume this is to keep it to LOGOS and not full designs. Where do you draw the line between a Tommy Hilfiger flag and a Confederate Flag? I have no issue with the Confederate flag, but many do - so therefore it has no place in the schools. Keeping the size down to 2x3 keeps a lot of questionable stuff out.

    you can't wear a top and pants the same color- they have to be 2 different colors or 2 different shades of the same color
  • I cannot image why the school would have issue with monochrome dress. Somebody else will have to take that one! Aside from the fact that it is tacky...

    no type of large design on the front or back of the shirt (although an all-over pattern <floral, polka dots, etc> is acceptable...
  • I think this is because some designs are objectionable. Have you been to Hot Topic? Visited www.tshirthell.com or www.collegedropout.com lately? That is where kids are getting their clothes. YOUR kid may not be wearing a shirt that says "He Wants To Sleep With Me", but other kids are.

    shirts MUST be tucked in
  • If the shirt is tucked in, then it won't show any belly. It also won't be hanging so low as to hide a weapon.

    if the pants have belt loops a belt with an unobstrusive buckle MUST be worn, pants must sit at the natural waistline and pant legs cannot touch the floor; no holes/patches, no pockets on the sides of the legs (cargo/carpenter pants), no windsuits...
  • This is just a matter of the kids looking neat and presentable. Cargo pants can hold weapons, cellphones, pagers, drugs, gum, etc. None of that is needed at school. Carpenter pants can also pose a safety risk.

    sweat shirts can be worn, but not sweatpants....
  • Sweatpants are pretty easy to pull down, unlike jeans or khakis. The elastic waist is just not a good idea. It's not a funny prank to pull someone's britches down. And it would make assaulting a girl way too easy. Another point, have you ever seen a guy in too tight sweatpants? EWWW.

    no v-necks shirts for girls,
  • because they are easy for boys to look down, and easy for girls to use to show their cleavage.

    no low-cut, sleeveless, see-through tops.
  • low cut is self explanatory. Sleeveless is icky on a guy. I don't need to see that armhair. On girls it is icky if the armholes are too big, then you can see straight in her shirt. See-thru tops - I think we all know why you can't wear those!

    I think that the parents owe it to their kids to support the administration. Kids learn what they are taught. If you teach your kid to not respect the rules and teach them that the teachers/administration are bumbling fools then that is what they will learn. They won't respect them, they will act out and have problems at school and that will add more fuel to your already negative outlook on the situation.
    • KindredKindredOld Faithful
    Although some of these things I really don't understand but my guess is that the schools have had some problems with it so they made the rule.

    But like you said, parents would eventually score MORE points with their kids by backing the school and rules than by whining and throwing a fit about them.

    Someday that kid will remember that the parent had NO regard for school rules so why should they?

    Thanks for clarifying the code, and I think whatever their reasoning is for any of this is valid. When I was in school there were NO parents that would go against a code from school because the school was always reasonable. Nowadays I think they are too politically motivated.
    mandomamamandomamaHall of Famer
    quote:
    I think that the parents owe it to their kids to support the administration. Kids learn what they are taught. If you teach your kid to not respect the rules and teach them that the teachers/administration are bumbling fools then that is what they will learn. They won't respect them, they will act out and have problems at school and that will add more fuel to your already negative outlook on the situation.


    And if you think that disrespect stays at school and is directed only towards teachers/administration, then you are in for a BIG surprise!! Parents and School MUST present a united front or education will not work. It's like a child playing momma off of daddy. Married people have to work as a team to raise kids and the same thing goes for school. parents who fight with teachers are teaching their kids to be troublemakers.
    L LayZeeDayzeSmall Talker
    I am all for a "uniform". Khaki/navy pants (dark blue jeans would be acceptable), solid colored shirts and maybe on Friday have a "fun day" where they could wear almost any type shirt/color pants (no shirts with any type of ad/saying/religious symbol). That way, they could "get it out of their system" that one day.

    I hope someone from the school board reads this forum and makes a few suggestions. Seems signing petitions does no good.
    * ******14>Hall of Famer
    quote:
    Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
    quote:
    Originally posted by T S C:
    I agree that uniforms are great. And to the parents who think they will be buying twice as many clothes for their kids or their kids will look like dorks - that is not the case at all.

    We went from Florence, AL (Forest Hills) to Atlanta, GA. All of the Dekalb County schools have uniforms. (FYI- Atlanta is in Cobb, Fulton, and Dekalb counties). The children wore khaki or navy pants and a solid red, white, or blue polo or oxford. At first my daughter balked and threw a fit. After 3 days she was fine with it. Getting ready for school was quick and easy. I bought all of her school clothes in Florence at Martins. She had 3 pair of khakis and 2 pair of navy pants (I think they were $14.99 each) and then she had 2 red, 2 navy, and 2 white polo shirts and a couple of oxfords. I know I didn't spend a ton of money, and the school operated a "Uniform Shop" where you could sell the clothes (if they were in good shape) after your child outgrew them. Then they donated these clothes to the kids who couldn't afford them.

    Uniforms were great, no doubt, but the #1 thing that Dekalb had right that this area has so wrong is parent involvement. Parents were not asked to be involved, they were required to get involved. When parents are involved with the teachers, administrators, lunch ladies, and staff things go a lot smoother. It is one thing to hear teachers complain about kids using lead pencils. As a parent you think "that is stupid". It is another thing to volunteer in their classroom and see the little pieces of lead that fall on the floor, see the marks it leaves with kids step on it, and help the teacher sweep, mop, and then scrub lead streaks off the floor on hands and knees with a large eraser!

    Uniforms + Parent Involvement = Great Schools



    TSC, I totally agree with you here!!! And I think any parent who argues with the Schools to the point of pulling out their "political" buddies are doing a great disservice to their children.

    They are teaching them the WRONG way of life.

    LIFE itself has rules, and who are we going to argue with about that.... God???


    If you go with school uniforms or not, I really dont think its that big of an issue. I dont agree with it but I wouldnt go as far as "fighting the schoolboard" on the issue. I do think CHILDREN have too many rules and yes I disagree with the school from time to time but that doesnt mean I am a difficult person. Last year they wanted my 4th grader to read 1 hour every night, practice her recorder 1 hour every night and she had 2 hours of homework. She did not have time to participate in dance that she had done for 4 years prior to that. We were up to 9:30 or 10 doing homework and no extracir. activities at 9 yrs old. Her teacher now at Brooks in the 5th Grade said she doesnt give homework 90% of the time. Her philos. is that KIDS NEED TO BE KIDS. She now will be able to play soccer again and do something fun. Dont assume that just because a parent disagrees with the school that they dont BELEIVE in rules or they want to fight about something. I think there are those types of people - BUT in general I think parents just want the best for their children.
    FirenzeVeritasFirenzeVeritasOld Faithful
    I agree with TSC, why can't tops and bottoms be the same color? Maybe they couldn't be distinguished from jumpsuits at a distance, and jumpsuits are illegal?

    I did a student nurse clinic in a H'ville school. The policy there was no disruptive clothing or appearance. The asst. principal was in the hall monitoring as I walked from the cafeteria back to the nurse's room. A white guy with a pink Mohawk was in front of me--no reaction from the asst. prin. (who looked for all the world like a cop with a nightstick up his glute). I found it hard not to look at the pink Mohawk, so I know it had to have been somewhat disruptive. Who did the asst. get? A young, black man with his khakis riding about two inches below his waist (no underwear showing). I can think of no other reason than a personal dislike or sheer prejudice.
    GuffawGuffawOld Faithful
    quote:
    Originally posted by T S C:
    you can't wear a top and pants the same color- they have to be 2 different colors or 2 different shades of the same color
  • I cannot image why the school would have issue with monochrome dress. Somebody else will have to take that one! Aside from the fact that it is tacky...


    • Two words: Goth ick.

    Wink
    GuffawGuffawOld Faithful
    quote:
    Originally posted by LayZeeDayze:
    This dress code the city schools has is getting the best of me!


    I posted this in antoher thread somewhere but please allow me to say it again:

    The Florence City School board will take up the issue of school uniforms again this coming April. I do plan to be there.

    I will be supporting full-blown uniforms instead of this hodgepodge of ridiculous rules we have now.

    If you don't approve of my stance, please stay home. Wink
    KindredKindredOld Faithful
    quote:
    Originally posted by GoFish:
    quote:
    Originally posted by LayZeeDayze:
    This dress code the city schools has is getting the best of me!


    I posted this in antoher thread somewhere but please allow me to say it again:

    The Florence City School board will take up the issue of school uniforms again this coming April. I do plan to be there.

    I will be supporting full-blown uniforms instead of this hodgepodge of ridiculous rules we have now.

    If you don't approve of my stance, please stay home. Wink



    I am behind you 100%!!! You are totally right in your stance and what is best for kids and education!! Smiler
    T S CT S COld Faithful
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    Originally posted by GoFish:
    quote:
    Originally posted by T S C:
    you can't wear a top and pants the same color- they have to be 2 different colors or 2 different shades of the same color
  • I cannot image why the school would have issue with monochrome dress. Somebody else will have to take that one! Aside from the fact that it is tacky...


    • Two words: Goth ick.

    Wink


    You are showing your age, Fish. Now they are EMO, not Goth. And yes, that makes perfect sense. Kids dressing in black from head to toe is disturbing. And maybe even distracting.
    P ^PuF^Old Faithful
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    Wait a minute... I dress in black from head to toe at times... what does that make me? With my naturally pale skin (I try to avoid too much sun) and dark hair I look pretty much "goth" or EMO from time to time.


    same here, but i don't have the dark hair.
    i've always loved black...and brown. i'm glad it has made a comeback lately.
    guess what else is making a comeback?
    Stirrup pants!
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