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The kids need to get used to a dress code. Most businesses require them. McDonald's has a uniform, the banks have a uniform, the people at Wal-mart do,too. You may not be able to tell from looking at them, but the kids working at Aeropostale even have to abide by a dress code. Maybe if the parents could stop coddling their kids and giving in to their every whim and start telling them to grow up and follow the rules, we'd all be a lot better off!!!
I think the schools should do away with the dress code and let the kids express themselves however thay want. Who gives the schools the right to tell my kids how to dress? Another issue I have with the schools is this whole thing about giving grades. Do you know how demeaning it is for a child to get a D or an F? It's the teachers job to teach. When the kid has put up with the teachers for 12 years they should get a diploma. And I won't even go to the sports issues where they should stop keeping score and give everyone a trophy.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I think the schools should do away with the dress code and let the kids express themselves however thay want. Who gives the schools the right to tell my kids how to dress? Another issue I have with the schools is this whole thing about giving grades. Do you know how demeaning it is for a child to get a D or an F? It's the teachers job to teach. When the kid has put up with the teachers for 12 years they should get a diploma. And I won't even go to the sports issues where they should stop keeping score and give everyone a trophy.


Please, dear God, tell me this is a joke. Tell me that you are being funny. Because if your post is sarcasm, then I applaud you. It is funny. If you are serious, then you are a jacka$s.
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Originally posted by Moose:
The kids need to get used to a dress code. Most businesses require them. McDonald's has a uniform, the banks have a uniform, the people at Wal-mart do,too. You may not be able to tell from looking at them, but the kids working at Aeropostale even have to abide by a dress code. Maybe if the parents could stop coddling their kids and giving in to their every whim and start telling them to grow up and follow the rules, we'd all be a lot better off!!!


WOW. I'm glad that you have high aspirations for your kids to work at McDonalds or Wal Mart.

It's different for these places, anyway. McDonalds will provide you with a uniform. Schools don't "provide" kids with these clothes. From what I understand, it's difficult to find the clothes that are required on the dress code.
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I think the schools should do away with the dress code and let the kids express themselves however thay want. Who gives the schools the right to tell my kids how to dress? Another issue I have with the schools is this whole thing about giving grades. Do you know how demeaning it is for a child to get a D or an F? It's the teachers job to teach. When the kid has put up with the teachers for 12 years they should get a diploma. And I won't even go to the sports issues where they should stop keeping score and give everyone a trophy.


Please, dear God, tell me this is a joke. Tell me that you are being funny. Because if your post is sarcasm, then I applaud you. It is funny. If you are serious, then you are a jacka$s.


It was definately sarcasm. Life is not fair and our kids need to realize there are rules and expectations.
!!!!!!!HELLO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
O.K. We did get a lot of signatures! Let's just say we probably have enough for them to set a date for the Dress Code revisions.
Let me tell you something.........I don't want to do away with it TOTALLY, just revise it!
To MR/MRS. MOOSE.........BANKS don't have uniforms, WALMART dosen't have uniforms, only a smock. I've seen MORE BUTT CRACK at Walmart than anywhere. The stockers especially. And I WILL Coddle my kids if I like. Sounds to me that YOU need a hug! Probably don't have any childeren do you. I agree with Johnhaeger 100%.
I somewhat agree with ferrell......our kids need to express themselves, but with boundaries.
Their should be 5 rules:
1. NO BUTT CRACK
2. NO CLEVAGE
3. NO SEE THROUGH OR HOLES IN CLOTHES
4. NO SAGGING
5. NO PROFANITY ON SHIRTS
That should be the end of it. There are NOT a lot clothes out there for the girls with NOTHING ON THEM.
THE MAIN THING THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF IS..........If the students at Hibbett Middle School don't wear there team shirts on Fridays they get punished......THAT IS AGAINST THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!
That is where this all started from. The School system CAN NOT tell our childred what to wear on certain days.
I mean..........They can't even wear "Alabama" or "Auburn" shirts unless told to.
I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR!
Florence City Schools are not PRIVATE, therefore they shouldn't be forced to have uniforms! The schools are Funded by the STATE OF ALABAMA and the Gov.
If I and others have to I will take this as high up as I can go!
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Originally posted by Moose:
The kids need to get used to a dress code. Most businesses require them. McDonald's has a uniform, the banks have a uniform, the people at Wal-mart do,too. You may not be able to tell from looking at them, but the kids working at Aeropostale even have to abide by a dress code. Maybe if the parents could stop coddling their kids and giving in to their every whim and start telling them to grow up and follow the rules, we'd all be a lot better off!!!


I worked for a Fortune 5 Company for about 6 years in the 1990's. We were even told which brand of suits we were allowed to wear on the job. Did I complain? Heck no! They were sending me a really nice paycheck every month.

Students need to realize that they are preparing to join the real world.
Having read this thread and the other one, it seems to me that there is really only one problem. The current dress code leaves enough options that kids are still being picky, and thus aggravating their parents when shopping. Yet, it is rigid enough that it limits purchasing options and makes shopping more difficult. This, apparently, is worth circulating a petition.
What is the wording of the dress code? You say that walmart and banks don't have uniforms. We're not talking about uniforms here we are talking of dress codes and these places do have dress codes and almost every business has dress codes or an expectation to dress a certain way or level.

You get paid in education to go to school, it is your job to go to school.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I think the schools should do away with the dress code and let the kids express themselves however thay want. Who gives the schools the right to tell my kids how to dress? Another issue I have with the schools is this whole thing about giving grades. Do you know how demeaning it is for a child to get a D or an F? It's the teachers job to teach. When the kid has put up with the teachers for 12 years they should get a diploma. And I won't even go to the sports issues where they should stop keeping score and give everyone a trophy.


Please, dear God, tell me this is a joke. Tell me that you are being funny. Because if your post is sarcasm, then I applaud you. It is funny. If you are serious, then you are a jacka$s.


It was definately sarcasm. Life is not fair and our kids need to realize there are rules and expectations.


WHEW!!! You scared me.
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Originally posted by flhgrl:
WALMART dosen't have uniforms, only a smock.


Just a bit of info. Wal-Mart has phased out the smock and has gone to the navy Polo.

I totally agree with the five rules. I also believe that kids should have the PRIVILEGE to express themselves but with boundaries. Because, in the real world, there are jobs that require certain dress codes so I believe that children should be taught to respect that.

The team shirts on Friday thing, if true, is wrong.
New here, first post..

My daughter is a 5th grader at Hibbett. I had not heard of a possible meeting to revise the dress code but i would be in agreement. I understand the purpose of having one, but i do think portions of it go too far.

My daughter has also mentioned the friday shirt issue and i assumed it was a school spirit thing..but not mandatory..however one friday she couldn't find it and appeared frantic stating "you don't know how much trouble we get in". At the time i passed it off to being a little overly dramatic at this age..lol I've also wondered if this is truly mandatory as i have never seen or heard anything directly from the school about it. Also if the child loses,ruins with stains or tears the shirt..is there an option to buy additional shirts..must it be a "team" shirt or just any one of the falcon tee's the school puts out. We have an additional issue not necessarily the schools fault. She is built small for her age and even the smallest sizes in the school shirts are quite large on her
..making it even more uncomfortable when she has to tuck them in.

I hope the petition is a success and i'll be watching to see if a meeting is scheduled to question,review and possibly revise the dress code..

Thanks!
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
ffemt...TDFMAN put the dress code in this -> http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...43475/m/72110876/p/4 <- thread, page 4.


Wow don't know how I missed that monster of a thread. Eeker

I don't see any problems with the code.... I can see arguments for some of it but you also have to think slippery slope. How much of a worn look is too worn? How do you measure worn? You can say no skin showing but there are some pairs that have that extra worn look that don't show skin but if you bend over or move the fibers move and reveal skin. What about when these artificially worn pants slowly become truly worn?

I said worn too many times...... Razzer

I don't agree with the forced school spirit though, if it is true.
And the teachers need to have to abide by the SAME dress code... I've seen teachers dressed in things I would consider inappropriate (too short, see-through, sleeveless, etc).... Most teachers and education faculty will say the dress code is not that difficult to follow... well, I say let them have to dress the same way and get in the same trouble the kids do if they don't abide by it and then ask them about it.
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Originally posted by Calypso:
And the teachers need to have to abide by the SAME dress code... I've seen teachers dressed in things I would consider inappropriate (too short, see-through, sleeveless, etc).... Most teachers and education faculty will say the dress code is not that difficult to follow... well, I say let them have to dress the same way and get in the same trouble the kids do if they don't abide by it and then ask them about it.


As I said in the other thread, I dress professionally every day, including at after-school functions.
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Originally posted by Calypso:
And the teachers need to have to abide by the SAME dress code... I've seen teachers dressed in things I would consider inappropriate (too short, see-through, sleeveless, etc).... Most teachers and education faculty will say the dress code is not that difficult to follow... well, I say let them have to dress the same way and get in the same trouble the kids do if they don't abide by it and then ask them about it.
What a thoughtless retort...break down the line of delineation between those with authority and those subject to it...way to think ahead. Using your logic, acceptable teacher dress would be shorts, t-shirts and flip-flops.
Those aren't in the dress code, Zuter. Big Grin

My son's teachers at FHS were awesome. After I opened the line of communication with them via email, many went above and beyond the call to help my son.

I never saw any teachers dressed inappropriately, but if that were to occur, I hope there are measures in place to handle that. That should be a 'three strikes & you're out' situation, IMO.
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Originally posted by falcon1234:
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Originally posted by Calypso:
And the teachers need to have to abide by the SAME dress code... I've seen teachers dressed in things I would consider inappropriate (too short, see-through, sleeveless, etc).... Most teachers and education faculty will say the dress code is not that difficult to follow... well, I say let them have to dress the same way and get in the same trouble the kids do if they don't abide by it and then ask them about it.


As I said in the other thread, I dress professionally every day, including at after-school functions.


Good for you... but what are you considering to be professional-style dress?

Like I stated before, the faculty should have the SAME dress code as the students. And having the "spirit" shirt to be mandatory on Fridays is ridiculous. I can see them maybe having the students (and faculty) wear the school colors if they don't want to wear the spirit shirt, but this should not be mandatory either.
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Originally posted by Calypso:
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Originally posted by falcon1234:
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Originally posted by Calypso:
And the teachers need to have to abide by the SAME dress code... I've seen teachers dressed in things I would consider inappropriate (too short, see-through, sleeveless, etc).... Most teachers and education faculty will say the dress code is not that difficult to follow... well, I say let them have to dress the same way and get in the same trouble the kids do if they don't abide by it and then ask them about it.


As I said in the other thread, I dress professionally every day, including at after-school functions.


Good for you... but what are you considering to be professional-style dress?

Like I stated before, the faculty should have the SAME dress code as the students. And having the "spirit" shirt to be mandatory on Fridays is ridiculous. I can see them maybe having the students (and faculty) wear the school colors if they don't want to wear the spirit shirt, but this should not be mandatory either.


What do I consider professional? Monday through Thursday I wear a starched shirt, starched pants, and a necktie. On Fridays, I wear a golf shirt and either khakis or well-pressed jeans. You need to grow up and realize that students and teachers to not follow the same rules, nor should they. We are professionals who are well-trained and certified to do the jobs that we perform. Different subject areas require different dress. For example, if the auto tech teacher or the construction tech teacher wore a tie, it would be foolish or even dangerous.
For example, if the auto tech teacher or the construction tech teacher wore a tie, it would be foolish or even dangerous.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with that statement.Explain to me why a math teacher has to wear a short skirt or an language teacher feels the neeed to wear low cut blouses or 3 inch high heels.This does not benefit the kids in anyway nor help with the education process.
I would prefer they dress in modest manner as I expect my kids to do.
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Originally posted by Alphonse:
http://www.fcs.k12.al.us/Syste...0%20Dress%20Code.pdf

I just don't see what is wrong with the dress code. Nothing I read seems bad at all.


The biggest complaints I hear is that the kids don't like to tuck in their shirts and want to wear screen-printed tee shirts supporting their favorite teams or restaurant or what have you. Some simply want to wear those "stylish" shirts that have "Abercrombie" in huge letters.

I don't see a darn thing wrong with that. However, the kids will certainly test those rules with college football shirts that say something along the lines of "Alabama will kick your a**!" So where do you draw the line to make it simple to enforce? You have the current code.

The other complaint is that parents claim they can't find clothes that abide by the dress code. That is just silly. I've been doing it for years and I am not a very good shopper.
First off I have children in 3 of the mentioned schools. I have one in Hibbett and the Spirit/Team shirt thing is true. They do get in trouble and do not get to participate in functions on Friday if they do not wear them. (I don’t like that one myself) I have a child in the Freshman Center as well and she does not like the dress code either. She will get over it and I have explained it is a little more strict in FHS where she will be going next year. I have a son in FHS and he does not like tucking his shirt in either. He too has gotten over it. We moved here from a city that had a full dress code. (No jeans, Kakis with no pleats. Red golf shirts with no logos. Girls with tan skirts at mid calf and red button down shirts no logos) Those of you that want to change the one you have don’t have a clue. Do you love your children? Then wake up and be a parent. This is for the safety of your children the safety of all the children and staff at the school. It is also to cut down on distractions. Go ahead and give the kid that inch of mid hip jeans and the worn look. Next thing you will have some wearing hip huggers with their crack hanging out (that whole inch and a mile thing). Do you want the teachers to get out a tape measure and check? You also have the issue of the haves and have not to deal with, the bullying and the teasing and social status crap. Hey parents they are there to learn not socialize and flaunt how much mommy and daddy make. They are there to learn.
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Originally posted by OpinionsVary2:
Then wake up and be a parent. This is for the safety of your children the safety of all the children and staff at the school. It is also to cut down on distractions.


If you do som research you will find that there is actually almost no data to show that a full uniform (or even a reasonable dress code) improves safety or offers less distractions or results in higher testing performance whatsoever.

Seriously, all the girls could be made to where a burka and would still be a "distraction" for teenaged boys.
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Originally posted by Skynyrd Fan:
TDFMAN, where do you shop?? do you have a son? I am here to tell you it is almost impossible to get carpenter shorts to fit my son without paying an arm and a leg!!!!!!!


Yes, I have a son.

While I buy my work clothes from fairly higher-end places, I buy all my casual stuff like jeans (Levi's, Wranglers) from Walmart, Target, K-mart or TJ Maxx or even Sam's when they have a table full of stuff.

When I'm splurging, I might go to Martins for trendy casual wear.

Many would frown upon shopping for clothes from places like this. I've never understood why paying more is somehow better.

I NEVER spend more than $15.00 on a pair or shorts. If you can't do that, you aren't shopping wisely.

Example: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fade...0944&ci_sku=13021535
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Originally posted by Rancid Apple:
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Originally posted by Skynyrd Fan:
TDFMAN, where do you shop?? do you have a son? I am here to tell you it is almost impossible to get carpenter shorts to fit my son without paying an arm and a leg!!!!!!!


Yes, I have a son.

While I buy my work clothes from fairly higher-end places, I buy all my casual stuff like jeans (Levi's, Wranglers) from Walmart, Target, K-mart or TJ Maxx or even Sam's when they have a table full of stuff.

When I'm splurging, I might go to Martins for trendy casual wear.

Many would frown upon shopping for clothes from places like this. I've never understood why paying more is somehow better.

I NEVER spend more than $15.00 on a pair or shorts. If you can't do that, you aren't shopping wisely.

Example: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Fade...0944&ci_sku=13021535


You are TDFMAN?

When I was shopping for my son, I noticed that in most the places you listed, the waist size for men starts at 30. For the average male high school student, that is too large.

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