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Originally Posted by mad American:

What is your problem with law abiding citizens defending themselves RP?  That would be the only result of ANY new gun laws.

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Ok, mad... Tell me, what exactly are you defending yourself against?

 

Who do you have to defend yourself against every day that you feel warrants deadly force? Are you afraid of Spanish guys because they can look intimidating?  Black guys? Meth heads? Fat, coc. ky old Caucasian guys carrying cannons? The gummint? What?  Seriously.  Help me to better understand the fear.

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

RP doesn't like it when someone blames his bike for crime.  Of course, a motorcycle is just a tool -- for getting one from one place to another.  That some use it in connection with crime and others as a fetish is not the bike's fault -- no more than the firearm. 

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Nobody blamed my bike for any crime.  How you reached that conclusion is beyond me.

 

I'm a responsible bike owner. I'm trained in the proper use of my bike.

 

Comparing guns to bikes is ridiculous.  Yes, both are tools. One is specifically designed for the express purpose of transport, the other is specifically designed to severely damage or kill whatever it is pointed at when it is operated.  I suppose you *could* kill someone with a motorcycle, but a bike is way too large and unwieldy to replace a gun for killing.  You can't kill  with a bike easily or from a distance. Bikes are harder to conceal as well.  You can't very well put a bike in your pocket or backpack and sneak it into a school or church.

  A tool may just be a shortcut to a desired result, but it isn't fair to say that the tool has no part in achieving the result.  I suppose that a guy with a hammer and a guy with a gun could kill an identical number of people, but the gun makes it more likely that a person will succeed faster and more likely to kill their specific targets.

Guns give people a quick, easy, cheap, and relatively detached (compared to stabbings/beatings) method of killing people—even large numbers of people. By making killing easy, guns directly contribute to the thought process that must go into a killing and facilitate even higher body counts. Without guns, people would still kill others, but it would be a lot more difficult to rack up high body counts.

 

As far as feti. sh. ization? Well, at least my bike was *designed* to fit between my legs.

 

Unlike these things:

 

 

 

 Hmmm...

 

 

 

 

And I guess these Dudes "utilized" horses to get to their destination.

 

About 170 members of rival motorcycle gangs were charged with engaging in organised crime after a shootout at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco, Texas, that killed nine people and wounded 18.

 

Ban motorcycles, thus, no biker gangs. No shootouts.

 

Makes sense to me.

 

 

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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 So , I take it you are against law abiding citizens owning guns?

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No, I am not against law abiding citizens owning guns.

I am against living in the American version of Somalia.

I am against people who think carrying a gun gives them a license to be a d---head.

I am against every whack-job and sorehead in the country having the ability to get ahold of a gun as easily as if it was a prize in a box of cereal. (In fact, there was a local auto dealer recently that ran an ad on KIX 96.1 stating that if you bought one of his vehicles you could 'get a free gun!.'. What the actual f#%& is THAT $#!T?)

 I am against people that have hero delusions and ridiculous fantasies of somehow standing a snowball's chance in Haiti of taking on the world's most powerful military with their hobby arsenals.

 THAT'S what I'm against.

 

To be able to even START to do *anything* about these mass shootings, It has to be made harder to get and keep firearms.  They should be *at least* as regulated as cars (which are more regulated than guns BTW.)

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

RP doesn't like it when someone blames his bike for crime.  Of course, a motorcycle is just a tool -- for getting one from one place to another.  That some use it in connection with crime and others as a fetish is not the bike's fault -- no more than the firearm. 

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Nobody blamed my bike for any crime.  How you reached that conclusion is beyond me.

 

I'm a responsible bike owner. I'm trained in the proper use of my bike.

 

Comparing guns to bikes is ridiculous.  Yes, both are tools. One is specifically designed for the express purpose of transport, the other is specifically designed to severely damage or kill whatever it is pointed at when it is operated.  I suppose you *could* kill someone with a motorcycle, but a bike is way too large and unwieldy to replace a gun for killing.  You can't kill  with a bike easily or from a distance. Bikes are harder to conceal as well.  You can't very well put a bike in your pocket or backpack and sneak it into a school or church.

  A tool may just be a shortcut to a desired result, but it isn't fair to say that the tool has no part in achieving the result.  I suppose that a guy with a hammer and a guy with a gun could kill an identical number of people, but the gun makes it more likely that a person will succeed faster and more likely to kill their specific targets.

Guns give people a quick, easy, cheap, and relatively detached (compared to stabbings/beatings) method of killing people—even large numbers of people. By making killing easy, guns directly contribute to the thought process that must go into a killing and facilitate even higher body counts. Without guns, people would still kill others, but it would be a lot more difficult to rack up high body counts.

 

As far as feti. sh. ization? Well, at least my bike was *designed* to fit between my legs.

 

Unlike these things:

 

 

 

 

 Hmmm...

 

 

 

 

And I guess these Dudes "utilized" horses to get to their destination.

 

About 170 members of rival motorcycleGANGS  were charged with engaging in organised crime after a SHOOTOUT  at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco, Texas, that killed nine people and wounded 18.

 

Ban motorcycles, thus, no biker gangs. No shootouts.

 

Makes sense to me.

 

 

 

 

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That's actually pretty child-like logic. It ignores the words "SHOOTOUT" and "GANGS" (read "guns" and "rival criminal groups") while concentrating on the word " motorcycle.". These people did not use motorcycles to kill each other, they used "guns."

  Those two knuckleheads in the pic above the gang members are just proof that evolution works.

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

Ah, yes, those Redneck gun nuts.

 

 

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They are obvious ammosexuals.  The fact that they are wearing biker leathers garners no respect from me.  /shrug. Yknow? I like how the gun nuts have to attack their perceptipn of *me* directly.  It''s all they've got. Their arguments are pizz-weak.

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by mad American:

What is your problem with law abiding citizens defending themselves RP?  That would be the only result of ANY new gun laws.

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Ok, mad... Tell me, what exactly are you defending yourself against?

 

Who do you have to defend yourself against every day that you feel warrants deadly force? Are you afraid of Spanish guys because they can look intimidating?  Black guys? Meth heads? Fat, coc. ky old Caucasian guys carrying cannons? The gummint? What?  Seriously.  Help me to better understand the fear.

RP, it could be all of the above. I am not afraid, I have been all over the southeast on my motorcycle armed with only a hammer. But with the new atmosphere that we have, a middle aged white guy needs to be armed because of all the dope heads that think whitey owes them their next hit of whatever.  I have not purchased a firearm as of yet, but as the crime wave creeps closer to my neighborhood, I am gonna have to.  You say you don't have a problem with law abiding citizens owning fire arms, but you ridicule us for defending our rights.  If you are around so many a s s  holes with guns, maybe you should keep better company.  Again, when I go to buy my firearm, I will have to pass a background check, that is enough.  The gummit will already know that I am armed.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

Pfft. Nice try. but WRONG! He wasn't "surrounded" 

 

Soldiers on all military installations, including Fort Hood, are not armed while on post, nor are they permitted to carry any privately owned firearms. Only law enforcement and security personnel are allowed to have weapons on post. ( Same as Police on the streets. You got a cop in your pocket?)

On Fort Hood, the restrictions on personal weapons were expanded in the wake of the 2009 massacre and an epidemic of suicides on post, which is the largest active-duty armored post in the country. Current policy requires soldiers to register their own personal weapons with their commanders and to keep those weapons in the arms room.

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

g12

 

He was a muslim terrorist that committed a terrorist act but that terrorist act was labeled 'workplace violence' by hussein obama.

Other than combat zones soldiers do not walk around armed, only the MPs have that authority. Now those latin kings, well let me tell you, they are armed, and you better be da** good at motorcycling to out run two carloads of them chasing you and firing their machine guns at you!! Just think, ban guns and no one will ever have to worry about things like that again!! No crimes, no murders that started when cain shot abel.

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Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

RP it's none of your business period. 

I don't agree with RP on much of any thing, but yeah it's his business too.  He may disagree with having armed law abiding citizens, but the same people that think I might be armed will think he might be armed.  That is the beauty of legal concealed carry, the thuggas have no idea who is a soft target.  If that poor man that was attacked at first Friday had been armed maybe there would be a few less criminals in the world.

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

Pfft. Nice try. but WRONG! He wasn't "surrounded" 

 

Soldiers on all military installations, including Fort Hood, are not armed while on post, nor are they permitted to carry any privately owned firearms. Only law enforcement and security personnel are allowed to have weapons on post. ( Same as Police on the streets.

 

AND *WHY* DO YOU SUPPOSE *THAT* IS?????

 

 

"On Fort Hood, the restrictions on personal weapons were expanded in the wake of the 2009 massacre and an epidemic of suicides on post, which is the largest active-duty armored post in the country. Current policy requires soldiers to register their own personal weapons with their commanders and to keep those weapons in the arms room."

WELL DANG!!!!!  GUN CONTROL!!!!

HOW BOUT THAT HAPPY CRAPPY!!??

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

g12

 

He was a muslim terrorist that committed a terrorist act but that terrorist act was labeled 'workplace violence' by hussein obama.

Other than combat zones soldiers do not walk around armed, only the MPs have that authority. Now those latin kings, well let me tell you, they are armed, and you better be da** good at motorcycling to out run two carloads of them chasing you and firing their machine guns at you!! Just think, ban guns and no one will ever have to worry about things like that again!! No crimes, no murders that started when cain shot abel.

AND *AGAIN*  GUN CONTROL.  THIS IS TOO EASY. THIS IS THREE MORONS I'VE HAD TO EXPLAIN THE SAME THING TO NOW.  ANYBODY ELSE NOT PAYING ATTENTION?  LMAO!

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Well, RP has shown an ignorance of the military. And, doesn't like the suggestion that his play pretty -- motorcycle be taken away.  Still, makes sense -- no motorcycles -- no gangs. Except that its the logic of the sophist -- `the shallow mind.  Gangs would still exist, just with different transportation.

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That makes sense if you're a five year old ignoring the obvious. My bike is probably the ugliest thing you've ever seen.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Hate to break it to pup, but driving is a privilege.  Owning a gun is a right.  Apples to oranges comparison.

 

Consider yourself "coached" on the American way.

And nowadays, THAT IS part of the problem.  You might not qualify for a driver's license, but any yahoo can get a gun.

 

If having a gun was a privilege that had to be earned, like it is in some other countries where military service is mandatory, things might be different.  Not here though.  You don't even need a brain to have a gun.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

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Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

Originally Posted by mad American:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by mad American:

What is your problem with law abiding citizens defending themselves RP?  That would be the only result of ANY new gun laws.

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Ok, mad... Tell me, what exactly are you defending yourself against?

 

Who do you have to defend yourself against every day that you feel warrants deadly force? Are you afraid of Spanish guys because they can look intimidating?  Black guys? Meth heads? Fat, coc. ky old Caucasian guys carrying cannons? The gummint? What?  Seriously.  Help me to better understand the fear.

RP, it could be all of the above. I am not afraid, I have been all over the southeast on my motorcycle armed with only a hammer. But with the new atmosphere that we have, a middle aged white guy needs to be armed because of all the dope heads that think whitey owes them their next hit of whatever.  I have not purchased a firearm as of yet, but as the crime wave creeps closer to my neighborhood, I am gonna have to.  You say you don't have a problem with law abiding citizens owning fire arms, but you ridicule us for defending our rights.  If you are around so many a s s  holes with guns, maybe you should keep better company.  Again, when I go to buy my firearm, I will have to pass a background check, that is enough.  The gummit will already know that I am armed.

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No. I don't have a problem with law abiding citizens having firearms. I meant it the first time I said it.

I also clearly stated what I'm against.

I don't ridcule gun owners for 'defending their right', I ridicule them for their boolsheet arguments for having a gun.  You have a gun or are getting a gun because you're afraid. Don't even tell me you're not because in the statement you *just* made, you say you're not afraid............and then you go right ahead and tell me how you're getting a gun because you’re afraid of the dope heads (by saying you feel that hey think "whitey owes them" you mean dope heads of African descent-as if most of the dope heads around here *aren't* white people of Scotch-Irish descent, but whatever...) and the crime wave that you say is approaching your neighborhood.  Is it getting so bad where you livetht you fear getting accosted in the streets by armed black individuals?

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

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Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

---------------

Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

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Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

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LOL. The only thing I got out of all of that is that I for sure hit a nerve.  Maybe more than one.

I dunno where you got the idea that I was a bigot..... Most of *you* are pretty plainly stating your fear of black people whether you use dog-whistle codewords or outright say so.

 As far as your second amendment? All I have to say to *you* is "no."

 I'm here legally.  I pay my taxes.

Our first amendment says I can say our second amendment s--ks d---s.  

Obviously you fear *me* as well. 

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Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

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Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

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Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

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LOL. The only thing I got out of all of that is that I for sure hit a nerve.  Maybe more than one.

I dunno where you got the idea that I was a bigot..... Most of *you* are pretty plainly stating your fear of black people whether you use dog-whistle codewords or outright say so.

 As far as your second amendment? All I have to say to *you* is "no."

 I'm here legally.  I pay my taxes.

Our first amendment says I can say our second amendment s--ks d---s.  

Obviously you fear *me* as well. 

 

 

I didn't think you could grasp it.

Should I have typed in the "knuckle-dragger" dialect for you to understand?

 

Obviously I fear you?    YOU don't know me, bigot.  I think you have watched too many Kung ** shows.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

---------------

Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

------------------

Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

------------

LOL. The only thing I got out of all of that is that I for sure hit a nerve.  Maybe more than one.

I dunno where you got the idea that I was a bigot..... Most of *you* are pretty plainly stating your fear of black people whether you use dog-whistle codewords or outright say so.

 As far as your second amendment? All I have to say to *you* is "no."

 I'm here legally.  I pay my taxes.

Our first amendment says I can say our second amendment s--ks d---s.  

Obviously you fear *me* as well. 

 

 

I didn't think you could grasp it.

Should I have typed in the "knuckle-dragger" dialect for you to understand?

 

Obviously I fear you?    YOU don't know me, bigot.  I think you have watched too many Kung ** shows.

 

 

 

 

 

You keep using that word 'bigot.' 

Explain to me for everyone how I'm a bigot.

That word dosen't mean what you think it means.

Either that or you're playing a childish game of "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?"

I know you better than you think.  You reveal more about yourself with every response, and frankly, I'm not impressed.

Congratulations, you're mediocre.

 

I never liked kung-** shows much. You do know those were *so* seventies, right?  TV is much more diverse nowadays.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

---------------

Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

------------------

Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

------------

LOL. The only thing I got out of all of that is that I for sure hit a nerve.  Maybe more than one.

I dunno where you got the idea that I was a bigot..... Most of *you* are pretty plainly stating your fear of black people whether you use dog-whistle codewords or outright say so.

 As far as your second amendment? All I have to say to *you* is "no."

 I'm here legally.  I pay my taxes.

Our first amendment says I can say our second amendment s--ks d---s.  

Obviously you fear *me* as well. 

 

 

I didn't think you could grasp it.

Should I have typed in the "knuckle-dragger" dialect for you to understand?

 

Obviously I fear you?    YOU don't know me, bigot.  I think you have watched too many Kung ** shows.

 

 

 

 

 

You keep using that word 'bigot.' 

Explain to me for everyone how I'm a bigot.

That word dosen't mean what you think it means.

Either that or you're playing a childish game of "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?"

I know you better than you think.  You reveal more about yourself with every response, and frankly, I'm not impressed.

Congratulations, you're mediocre.

 

I never liked kung-** shows much. You do know those were *so* seventies, right?  TV is much more diverse nowadays.

 

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
 
  1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. ( "Us" gun collectors, carriers, gun "nuts")
     
    Wasn't trying to impress . Don't really care.
    I figure you have a mirror you use for that.
     
    You chimed in on this topic. Fine. Your opinion.
    But, then you TRIED to use the Ft. Hood shooting implying there were guns "surrounding" the shooter. And, that no one with those guns took him out.
     
    It was a FAIL, and you were called out on it.
    When confronted with your ignorance of the situation, you went into some asinine, off track one liners about how gun control WORKED in that situation.
    Egg on your face.
     
    Then you rambled off about listening to "us" on your scanner, shootings every weekend.
    Remember, US, no "some".
     
    I have not tried to compel you to own, carry, or even touch a gun.
     
    But, you have continued to assault gun owners.
    Then you tossed in the race card. A sure sign of having no valid points to contribute.
     
    Now, you will no doubt reply with some more off the wall BS.
     
     
     
     

 

Pup is an admitted New Jerseyite, a nanny state that allow you to marry your sister but not pump your own gas.  He can't think for himself.  He truly believes everyone who carries protection will be as careless and reckless as he would be if were to carry.  Psychologists refer to this condition as transference. 

 

All the Somolia/wild west scenarios that play out in his paranoid head never become reality.  The fear he must deal with daily must be debilitating, hence the long hair and unkept look he maintains.  A sad state of affairs, indeed.

Last edited by Mr. Hooberbloob
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Harald Weissberg:

---------------

Your argument is invalid.

 

g12

This was written by someone either ignorant of military installations, or a demagogue.  Most weapons are kept in an arms room.  Weapons are locked in racks.  The door and frame are armored and, usually secured by two security locks.

AGAIN. GUN CONTROL.  YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS.

 

Try harder. You can't "spin" this one.

 

YOU posted the Ft. Hood propaganda.

 

Gun control worked real well, for the SHOOTER.

He KNEW it would be a GUN FREE ZONE.

So did the Charleston shooter.

 

Didn't work out at all for the UNARMED victims.

 

YOU used the broad brush on anyone that carries as being afraid, or trying to be a badazz.

I am neither. I am a realist. And prepared. At all times. At all places.

I KNOW my piece is on me, but I don't think about constantly. It's no more to me than my wallet.

It does not diminish my dining or shopping experience

Do you think those poor people who where murdered in THEIR CHURCH every expected to be?

IN A CHURCH?

I think you are being a little naive as to when and where this could happen.

It's happened in Small Town, USA many times.

 

 

------------------

Nope. No naivete on my part.  I listen to you people shoot at each other all the time on the scanner.  I read it in the papers regularly.

Honestly I can see why you all think you need to be armed and constasntly f$%&in' ready at all times what with all the gunplay I hear about among you.  It must suck to live in fear like that- and you *are* afraid or you wouldn',t carry a gun.

 

"you people"???

 

Broad brush again? ***?

 

You don't know me no more than I know you. I've never shot/shot at anyone.

Only ever pulled it once when a theft was tried on a van I was in, and the perps didn't know I was in it. The driver and my friend got out at a 7/11 and I stayed in the back seat. Both doors suddenly opened and 2 thugs jumped in. One look at the .45 and the  thugs exited, fast. I COULD have popped both before they could get to me in the back of the van. As I stated, I KNOW what can happen, anywhere, at any time.

 

Could you not comprehend my earlier post? Or are you just a BIGOT? 

 

You can rely on your semi-auto fists and high capacity biceps as you wish. I'm fine with that.

You can enjoy your motorcycle anywhere you like as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are not an infringement on ME.

 You can spew your ignorance on what you THINK you know about responsible, TRAINED, legal gun owners / carriers such as myself all you want. That is your First Amendment right.

 

Leave MY 2nd Amendment right alone.

 

Got it?   Or do I need to type slower and space the letters farther apart?

 

 

 

 

------------

LOL. The only thing I got out of all of that is that I for sure hit a nerve.  Maybe more than one.

I dunno where you got the idea that I was a bigot..... Most of *you* are pretty plainly stating your fear of black people whether you use dog-whistle codewords or outright say so.

 As far as your second amendment? All I have to say to *you* is "no."

 I'm here legally.  I pay my taxes.

Our first amendment says I can say our second amendment s--ks d---s.  

Obviously you fear *me* as well. 

 

 

I didn't think you could grasp it.

Should I have typed in the "knuckle-dragger" dialect for you to understand?

 

Obviously I fear you?    YOU don't know me, bigot.  I think you have watched too many Kung ** shows.

 

 

 

 

 

You keep using that word 'bigot.' 

Explain to me for everyone how I'm a bigot.

That word dosen't mean what you think it means.

Either that or you're playing a childish game of "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?"

I know you better than you think.  You reveal more about yourself with every response, and frankly, I'm not impressed.

Congratulations, you're mediocre.

 

I never liked kung-** shows much. You do know those were *so* seventies, right?  TV is much more diverse nowadays.

 

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
 
  1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. ( "Us" gun collectors, carriers, gun "nuts")
     
    Wasn't trying to impress . Don't really care.
    I figure you have a mirror you use for that.
     
    You chimed in on this topic. Fine. Your opinion.
    But, then you TRIED to use the Ft. Hood shooting implying there were guns "surrounding" the shooter. And, that no one with those guns took him out.
     
    It was a FAIL, and you were called out on it.
    When confronted with your ignorance of the situation, you went into some asinine, off track one liners about how gun control WORKED in that situation.
    Egg on your face.
     
    Then you rambled off about listening to "us" on your scanner, shootings every weekend.
    Remember, US, no "some".
     
    I have not tried to compel you to own, carry, or even touch a gun.
     
    But, you have continued to assault gun owners.
    Then you tossed in the race card. A sure sign of having no valid points to contribute.
     
    Now, you will no doubt reply with some more off the wall BS.
     
     
     
     

 

----------------

And the only argument *you* have is " f--- off. I like guns."

 

It's not much of an argument, but it's all you've got.

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