Please bear with me and answer honestly:
Do you have someone(s) in your life that you love or care about deeply?
Please bear with me and answer honestly:
Do you have someone(s) in your life that you love or care about deeply?
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Easy question for me......yes!
Yes, of course.
Thanks for the replies. I hope to have more responses before I continue.
Yes indeed.
Sure do.
Oops! Just goes to show I need more coffee. Didn't notice it said NON-believers. Sorry.
OK. Next question(s):
When your 'significant others' leave for work or school each day, or leave on a trip...what do you think about? What goes through your mind?
That he will stay safe & come home to me. I truly don't know that I could, or even want to survive another loss.
I hope they are safe and will arrive at their destination without harm or injury.
OK. Next question(s):
When your 'significant others' leave for work or school each day, or leave on a trip...what do you think about? What goes through your mind?
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"Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...."
This thread is slow to reveal a purpose.
This thread is slow to reveal a purpose.
Patience is supposed to be a virtue. Unfortunately, it is one that is difficult to develop.
All of you signified that you 'hoped' your 'significant others' arrived at their destinations safely and returned to you safely. That is as it should be.
Next question: What gives you that 'hope'?
Since I have had my husband in mind then I would say my hope rest in his ability to take care of himself. He is a good driver, and he is a careful and safe man. So I hope that he uses all his skills and knowledge to return home safely. However, I also know that there are idiots out in the world that could cause an accident or do him harm regardless of how careful he is. So I hope....
Dog I expected a wheel to fly off before you finished.
DA has inserted action at a distance here with her hope. A miracle in deterministic clothing.
Religious in content no doubt. about it.
Atheists are determinists if you didn’t know DA. Your husband does not have skills to protect himself.
You should not place hope that a deterministic missile guided by a drunk driver has any choice but to hit head on with someone you love.
Instead you should abandon hope and thank determinism in advance of the outcome.
You are not being fair to atheism to try and influence outcome with hope.
Only God can protect him and silly as it may seem to you, i believe i would pray for him rather than leave him in the hands of determinism.
In other words, is "hope" magical thinking?
I am amused at those who, when asked to say a prayer, say, "I'll keep my fingers crossed." If you don't believe in prayer, do you actually believe in keeping fingers in the sign of a cross? Attempting to ward off any rogue vampires out there?
I am amused at those who, when asked to say a prayer, say, "I'll keep my fingers crossed." If you don't believe in prayer, do you actually believe in keeping fingers in the sign of a cross? Attempting to ward off any rogue vampires out there?
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Crossing your fingers is two fingers intertwined. A cross is an upright post with a transverse piece near the top. The two doesn’t compare in the least.
Only God can protect him and silly as it may seem to you, i believe i would pray for him rather than leave him in the hands of determinism.
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A person can have hope without it having to have a religious meaning. Hope is to wish for or to look forward to something. There is the theological hope that could be defined as the desire for God to give you what you ask for.
Next question: What gives you that 'hope'?
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Hope would be my wish that he come home safely.
I am amused at those who, when asked to say a prayer, say, "I'll keep my fingers crossed." If you don't believe in prayer, do you actually believe in keeping fingers in the sign of a cross? Attempting to ward off any rogue vampires out there?
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Crossing your fingers is two fingers intertwined. A cross is an upright post with a transverse piece near the top. The two doesn’t compare in the least.
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Only God can protect him and silly as it may seem to you, i believe i would pray for him rather than leave him in the hands of determinism.
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If I had to depend on a myth to keep my family safe then I would start worrying!!!
Crossing your fingers is two fingers intertwined. A cross is an upright post with a transverse piece near the top. The two doesn’t compare in the least.
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I stand by what I said.
It's one of those customs that crosses culture. As for origins, here's Wiki:
Traces back to pre-Christian times, when the cross was a symbol of unity and benign spirits dwelt at the intersection point. A wish made on a cross was a way of "anchoring" the wish at the intersection of the cross until the wish was fulfilled.
Only God can protect him and silly as it may seem to you, i believe i would pray for him rather than leave him in the hands of determinism.
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A person can have hope without it having to have a religious meaning. Hope is to wish for or to look forward to something. There is the theological hope that could be defined as the desire for God to give you what you ask for.
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Semi, it is nuts (and a stretch) to say that the common use of the word hope means a belief in a God. I have hope AND I have faith. Neither has anything to do with the supernatural. For me hope is not a wish, it is a almost certain knowledge, or belief in my abilities, or those of someone else, will produce what I want to happen or have. If I have every reason to believe in a possible outcome then I have hope. Belief...there is another thing I have. Shocking right? I believe all sorts of things. Almost exclusively on evidence. I have faith where belief just won't do. I have faith that my husband will not cheat on me. I choose to have faith in him because he has shown me love, respect and loyalty for many years. I can't guarantee he will always be faithful, but I do have some evidence so I believe he will .
Words can have different meanings. They can be interpreted to have a different meaning to different people. Religion does not own the words hope, faith, or belief...they only define some religious dogmas.
So on with the next question dog....or are you finished?
Words can have different meanings. They can be interpreted to have a different meaning to different people. Religion does not own the words hope, faith, or belief...they only define some religious dogmas.
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My post was to disagree with lexum but I agree with you.
Sorry for the delay. I wanted to make sure everyone had time to comment.
Next up:
Where do love and hope originate and what purposes do they serve?
I can't recall the author, but a book (Science fiction) titled 'The Far Arena' told about a Roman-era tribune discovered encased in ice by a geological survey team in the Artic Circle. In the story, the tribune was revived. Communication was established via a Latin-speaking nun. The tribune was repulsed by the cross the nun wore, and wanted to know how anyone could wear a symbol of such revulsion, pain and suffering as 'jewelry'.
Where do love and hope originate and what purposes do they serve?
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The brain. The propagation of the species.
Where do love and hope originate and what purposes do they serve?
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Love & hope comes from our surroundings, & within us.
As for it’s purpose, love is the surest way to stay connected to another human being in spite of our faults. It’s the strongest bond one human can feel for another.
Hope is really nothing more than a tool we use daily.
It's passive, a crutch, but can also be a trap. Too many people just hope that things will get better without doing anything. I could "hope" all day that the chicken will fall out of the fridge & cook itself. Or, I can get off the computer & go make some soup. That would be me being active & hoping the soup turns out good.
Where do love and hope originate and what purposes do they serve?
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The brain. The propagation of the species.
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adot, is this a guess on your part that you expect us to believe based simply on your insistance?
if not you better give us some science and proof of this claim.
i for one am tired of you claiming something as scientific fact on NO authority.
spit it out boy.
Hey, buf-
I got an honest, scientific question for ya...
If you stopped to think before you did think.....Would it hurt?
I don't mean hurt as in 'detrimental to the thought process', I mean 'hurt' as in 'smoke and fluids leaking outta yer head.'
Just askin'.
Puppie I came by yo house the other day. I had been don at the creek. Was gonna stop and talk if you were outside. Didn’t see no body
Sorry for the delay. I wanted to make sure everyone had time to comment.
Next up:
Where do love and hope originate and what purposes do they serve?
Don't stop now, guys......
I think they've stopped.
I think they've stopped.
I think everyone knew where it was headed and figured what was the use.
Let's take another tact. Love is pretty much universal. Some people are unable to love but they are few and far between. Then there's hope. It can be rational or irrational. A good question is where does hope come from? Obviously not everyone has it.
FV,
That same question was asked and answered. The answer is the brain. Next question!
I see where you have answered the brain, but that is not entirely logical, especially when saying it encourages the propagation of the species. Love would act in this capacity, but how does hope? We hope it won't rain; we hope we'll win the lottery; we hope our terminally ill loved ones can be miraculously cured. Three very different kinds of hope.
What are we hoping for? Not all social sub-groups hoped for an afterlife. I've taken no courses in anthropology, but I was specifically taught that the Viking race, while they believed in various gods, did not specifically hope for an afterlife. Did they have less hope that other races? If so, hope is not innate. If we had no word in the English language for hope, would we still have this emotion?
Let's take another tact.
Minus well, Dogberry.