Fox News Leans Hard Right

Is this your opinion or is it fact?

FACT, Only someone who has never watched Fox or someone who doesn't know the difference in left n right would be ignorant of the FACT, It is sad that some refuse to admit it leans hard right

It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:
It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

So if the earth is round, you'd be more comfortable hearing reports that it is flat?

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Originally posted by Parker Lewis:
FACT, Only someone who has never watched Fox or someone who doesn't know the difference in left n right would be ignorant of the FACT, It is sad that some refuse to admit it leans hard right

Then I challenge you to show me the basis of this fact. Surely you must have some stats showing this. Send the link too please.

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:
It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

So if the earth is round, you'd be more comfortable hearing reports that it is flat?

No, because I don't watch MSNBC.

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:
It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

So if the earth is round, you'd be more comfortable hearing reports that it is flat?

His statement could in fact be true. It depends on where you are looking from. If you are looking from way left then the center would appear to be far right. I can't argue with that fact.

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:
It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

So if the earth is round, you'd be more comfortable hearing reports that it is flat?

No, because I don't watch MSNBC.

LOL... If you only watch Fox, then you're only getting half the news. One side of the story. But you're never going to get all the information from watching TV anyway.

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:
It just seems it leans hard right when you are looking at it through the crooked lens of the hard left view of ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNN.

So if the earth is round, you'd be more comfortable hearing reports that it is flat?

No, because I don't watch MSNBC.

LOL... If you only watch Fox, then you're only getting half the news. One side of the story. But you're never going to get all the information from watching TV anyway.

Yeah, Keith Olbermann always has both sides of the debate on as does Madcow and Tingles Matthews. Ed is just a lunatic.

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

Yeah, Keith Olbermann always has both sides of the debate on as does Madcow and Tingles Matthews. Ed is just a lunatic.

Don't hate them because they're smart. And a little FYI... Fox's hard right leanings forced MSNBC's hand to steer further left. It was a far more balanced news organization before Fox went haywire on the right. But in any event, it's a liberal world now and a liberal future. Or at the very least, a progressive future. Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

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Don't hate them because they're smart

That would be impossible.

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Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

I agree. Conservatives need to quit pretending liberalism...excuse me...progressivism is not a disease and understand we are on the Highway to Hell if that's the future. A study of progressivism in the early 20th century is a roadmap to what awaits us if we don't take a right turn away from the yawning abyss of the liberal...excuse me...progressive world we now face.

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Don't hate them because they're smart

That would be impossible.

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Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

I agree. Conservatives need to quit pretending liberalism...excuse me...progressivism is not a disease and understand we are on the Highway to Hell if that's the future. A study of progressivism in the early 20th century is a roadmap to what awaits us if we don't take a right turn away from the yawning abyss of the liberal...excuse me...progressive world we now face.

So you're for the status quo?

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Don't hate them because they're smart

That would be impossible.

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Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

I agree. Conservatives need to quit pretending liberalism...excuse me...progressivism is not a disease and understand we are on the Highway to Hell if that's the future. A study of progressivism in the early 20th century is a roadmap to what awaits us if we don't take a right turn away from the yawning abyss of the liberal...excuse me...progressive world we now face.

So you're for the status quo?

Where did I say that?

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Originally posted by diddle:
But in any event, it's a liberal world now and a liberal future. Or at the very least, a progressive future. Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

See, that's what you get for only watching MSNBC/CBS/CNN and reading the Alter.NEt. You are completely delusional and misinformed.....LOL

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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Don't hate them because they're smart

That would be impossible.

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Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

I agree. Conservatives need to quit pretending liberalism...excuse me...progressivism is not a disease and understand we are on the Highway to Hell if that's the future. A study of progressivism in the early 20th century is a roadmap to what awaits us if we don't take a right turn away from the yawning abyss of the liberal...excuse me...progressive world we now face.

So you're for the status quo?

Where did I say that?

You seem to imply that you are conservative. Perhaps a dictionary might help.

LOL!

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Originally posted by teyates:

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Originally posted by diddle:
But in any event, it's a liberal world now and a liberal future. Or at the very least, a progressive future. Continuing to pretend gets none of us anywhere.

See, that's what you get for only watching MSNBC/CBS/CNN and reading the Alter.NEt. You are completely delusional and misinformed.....LOL

Our very country was supposedly founded on liberalism. Maybe it's you who are delusional and misinformed.

Somehow, I doubt it. I see the polls everyday and see how the majority of people are claiming to be moderates, and only about 25% are "liberal" and embrace their ideals. They think they won the WH, but in reality they only claim parts of it, and things are not going their way , so the liberals are trying to make everyone think they should give up, but in reality we are not going to give up and let you guys have "it your way"....not till you pry our dead little hands off the the flag, then you can have it all. Till then, get ready for a fight.

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Our very country was supposedly founded on liberalism. Maybe it's you who are delusional and misinformed.

Where did you learn that from?

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You seem to imply that you are conservative. Perhaps a dictionary might help.

Hope you find a good one.
To conclude someone is a conservative simply because they don't accept your sources of misinformation (MSNBC, alter.net, DailyKos)is very PolySci 101. Stop listening to your professor and do a little research on your own.

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Originally posted by teyates:
Somehow, I doubt it. I see the polls everyday and see how the majority of people are claiming to be moderates, and only about 25% are "liberal" and embrace their ideals. They think they won the WH, but in reality they only claim parts of it, and things are not going their way , so the liberals are trying to make everyone think they should give up, but in reality we are not going to give up and let you guys have "it your way"....not till you pry our dead little hands off the the flag, then you can have it all. Till then, get ready for a fight.

But it was your fearless "conservative" leaders that demonized liberalism. You have been hoodwinked.

In the 17th Century, liberal ideas began to influence governments in Europe, in nations such as The Netherlands, Switzerland, England and Poland, but they were strongly opposed, often by armed might, by those who favored absolute monarchy and established religion. In the 18th Century, in America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy. The American Declaration of Independence, includes the words "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

The essence of liberalism is toleration of different beliefs and of different ideas as to what constitutes a good life.

Deal with it!

Sooner or later, the stupid will have to be conquered. It's just natural selection.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:

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Our very country was supposedly founded on liberalism. Maybe it's you who are delusional and misinformed.

Where did you learn that from?

He learned it from that old copy of Newsweek in his dentist office. It's stuck with him ever since.

The ideals of the liberal of the nineteenth century are now of those called conservative. That's nothing new and is discussed in history classes.

As I've pointed out, Europeans still referred to me as a liberal because of my free market ideas. The left stole the term liberal, just as they try to steal everything they can get their paws on!

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The essence of liberalism is toleration of different beliefs and of different ideas as to what constitutes a good life.

Well said!

We are so far away from the ideas that this country was supposedly founded upon.

Far drunk and stupid is no way to run a country!

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Originally posted by interventor1:
The ideals of the liberal of the nineteenth century are now of those called conservative. That's nothing new and is discussed in history classes.

As I've pointed out, Europeans still referred to me as a liberal because of my free market ideas. The left stole the term liberal, just as they try to steal everything they can get their paws on!

LOL... Why don't you guys figure out where you stand then. One of my pet peeves is that nobody knows the definitions of words anymore these days. They just pick a team without knowing anything about that team.

Your history book was different than mine. You must be younger than me. My history book taught that the pilgrims came to the US because of religious persecution in England. Most of the men that wrote the Declaration of Independance were practicing Christians as well. Which leads me to believe our founding fathers were conservative.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Your history book was different than mine. You must be younger than me. My history book taught that the pilgrims came to the US because of religious persecution in England. Most of the men that wrote the Declaration of Independance were practicing Christians as well. Which leads me to believe our founding fathers were conservative.

Your history book was a one sided affair. Much like Fox news!

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In the 17th Century, liberal ideas began to influence governments in Europe, in nations such as The Netherlands, Switzerland, England and Poland, but they were strongly opposed, often by armed might, by those who favored absolute monarchy and established religion. In the 18th Century, in America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy. The American Declaration of Independence, includes the words "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Excellent. Eighteenth century liberalism is 21st century conservatism. You are learning...

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The essence of liberalism is toleration of different beliefs and of different ideas as to what constitutes a good life.

Then you go and ruin it with this simplistic modern touchy feely progressive silliness that wouldn't pass muster in a high school Young Democrats Club. {{{sigh}}}

Liberalism hasn't changed. The conservatives have just tried to redefine it.

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Originally posted by KissedGrits:

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In the 17th Century, liberal ideas began to influence governments in Europe, in nations such as The Netherlands, Switzerland, England and Poland, but they were strongly opposed, often by armed might, by those who favored absolute monarchy and established religion. In the 18th Century, in America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy. The American Declaration of Independence, includes the words "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Excellent. Eighteenth century liberalism is 21st century conservatism. You are learning...

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The essence of liberalism is toleration of different beliefs and of different ideas as to what constitutes a good life.

Then you go and ruin it with this simplistic modern touchy feely progressive silliness that wouldn't pass muster in a high school Young Democrats Club. {{{sigh}}}

Hey I thought you conservatives were all in favor of an established religion? LOL You don't even know who you are anymore! In fact, you're not that far from the Taliban.

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Your history book was different than mine. You must be younger than me. My history book taught that the pilgrims came to the US because of religious persecution in England. Most of the men that wrote the Declaration of Independance were practicing Christians as well. Which leads me to believe our founding fathers were conservative.

Your history book was a one sided affair. Much like Fox news!

Since you are not disputing my facts or presenting yours I can assume that I am right.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:

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Originally posted by diddle:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Your history book was different than mine. You must be younger than me. My history book taught that the pilgrims came to the US because of religious persecution in England. Most of the men that wrote the Declaration of Independance were practicing Christians as well. Which leads me to believe our founding fathers were conservative.

Your history book was a one sided affair. Much like Fox news!

Since you are not disputing my facts or presenting yours I can assume that I am right.

Do you understand what religious freedom means?

The terms “liberal” and “conservative” are relative to a standard and therefore change over time as conditions change. For example, if a nation is governed by a monarchy, and there is movement to remove the monarchy and replace it with a democratic government, those individuals supporting the movement would be labeled “liberal.” (The term liberal originates from the Latin, liber, meaning “free.”) Those who wished to retain the monarchy would be called “conservative.” (From the Latin conservare, “to preserve or retain.”)

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Our Founding Fathers were “liberals.” They wanted to change their government from a monarchy to a democracy. After they succeeded in declaring independence from the English monarchy and instituting a democratic constitution, our new nation came into existence. We then had a democratic republic, not a monarchy.

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Originally posted by have_at_it:
The terms “liberal” and “conservative” are relative to a standard and therefore change over time as conditions change. For example, if a nation is governed by a monarchy, and there is movement to remove the monarchy and replace it with a democratic government, those individuals supporting the movement would be labeled “liberal.” (The term liberal originates from the Latin, liber, meaning “free.”) Those who wished to retain the monarchy would be called “conservative.” (From the Latin conservare, “to preserve or retain.”)

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Our Founding Fathers were “liberals.” They wanted to change their government from a monarchy to a democracy. After they succeeded in declaring independence from the English monarchy and instituting a democratic constitution, our new nation came into existence. We then had a democratic republic, not a monarchy.

And ever since then we've been a conservative country happy to conserve our democratic republic.

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Originally posted by diddle:
We are so far away from the ideas that this country was supposedly founded upon.

Far drunk and stupid is no way to run a country!

No diddle, aka NeedleMeir, it is
Fat, Drunk, and Stupid, is no way ro "ruin" a country, and therefore, we shall stop you from doing so.....LOL
I wouldn't call to much on the founding fathers, with your liberal ideals. Actually some of those got people burned at the stake or worse. I would tend to lean more with the moderates if I were you, it might be safer, especially if you go to calling on the "forefathers"...haha

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Do you understand what religious freedom means?

Absolutely, do you?

Diddle it is SIMPLE,only 2 kinds of people don't admit Fox leans hard right and they are lying bastards or honest fools