FRED THOMPSON CALLS IT QUIT'S

Well, I actually like the guy, not sure if I would vote for him but he is a true conservative. I think if he had jumped in earlier when there was a big push he would have fared better. Too bad.

I like Fred too, but I think he saw the writing on the wall that America didn't WANT another actor in the White House.

Just my opinion.

I think he got in a little late, plus there were SO MANY candidates. He's a good guy, but I think he had to realize he just didn't have the support. Unless Huckabee gets a miracle..he will be gone next...followed by Rudy. May end up being Romney and McCain in the end.

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Originally posted by jmzgal:
I think he got in a little late, plus there were SO MANY candidates. He's a good guy, but I think he had to realize he just didn't have the support. Unless Huckabee gets a miracle..he will be gone next...followed by Rudy. May end up being Romney and McCain in the end.

I think you have some very valid points here.

Where does Ron Paul fit in??

I guess I ''could'' vote McCain, but he definitely isn't my favorite one.

Well, ole Ron might hang in and stay on the ballot...although it may be futile.

He lost the race on July 5th.

If you remember, for several months last year there were rumors about Thompson running. There was a grassroots effort to get him to enter and it was common knowledge that he was going to give it a shot.

People were just waiting for him to say he's in to get behind him. There was a rumor circulating that he would make the official announcement on July 4th. At that point he was at the peak of popularity. That day came and went, he did nothing. A lot of people instantly lost faith in him.

He entered officially two months later, but by that time it was too late. He had lost quite a bit of support and other candidates had plenty of time to get their name out there.

I think that a lot of Thompson supporters will move towards Ron Paul. Paul finished 2nd in Nevada, that was with only 15% of the vote, but it was still better than McCain. As more people drop out, I think Ron Paul will pick them up and build momentum.

Super Tuesday is the day that you can vote for whoever you want. Don't vote for who you think will win, vote for who you want to win. That's your true shot at picking a candidate.

thompson may still end up on the ticket.

Fred never would have been considered a serious candidate had he not enjoyed visibility in his post-Senate career as an actor. Add to that his demonstrated lack of energy in campaigning (translate "laziness" on the hustings) and you have a formula for failure. The last actor we got in the White House about broke the budget, racking up record deficits in most of his 8 years of "supply side" silliness and bedazzling the public into thinking that all that defense spending was what busted up the Soviet Union, when in reality that nation would have folded with or without the Reagan-era arms buildup. His outrageous military spending binge was enabled by a huge pack of Pentagon lies distorting and exaggerating the Soviet capabilities, lies that have been very thoroughly documented in Tom Gervasi's exhaustive analysis "Soviet Military Power," a neglected source of truth concerning the lying Reagan Pentagon.
Please--no more former actors in the White House!

I like his tell it like it is way. I think he values time with his family. Since his heart and mind is in Tennessee..he needs to be there. If your not all out, you might as well stay home. But then again I'm an All or nothing type person. I think if his mother was to get worse he would never forgive himself for not spending time with her! No More Fred Factor!

Fred Thompson was running for President? When did this happen? Who knew?

You are being silly! You knew he was running!

I liked fred. He was just different. Something about him made me like him. Kinda sucks he quit...

I loved Ronald Reagan!!! Not sure who I will vote for this time.

I, too, like Fred. He is a true conservative. As for being as actor, that was one small part of his career, but a profitable one.

Beernu,

Interviews with members of the old Soviet Politburo (its ruling body) put Reagan down as the reason the USSR ceased to exist. He identified the flaws within the system, exerted pressure on those points and it toppled. I know some left wing academics argue otherwise. I prefer to believe the men on the ground that saw it happen -- not Monday morning quarterbacks.

He needs to put his support behind Huckabee or Paul.

He was who my vote was going for in this election. I agree, he got in a little late, but I was hoping her would be able to pull it off.

In my opinion, Rudy doesn't have a chance and will be the next one gone.

Fred had some good showings in the debates. I liked his "character". His platform was more geared toward Ron Paul's ideals. And another funny thing that I noticed Huckabee doing was trying to hijack some of RP's platform. Huckabee doesn't have the record as gov. of arkansas to be a true conservative. Giuliani is false. Mitt Romney is the best flip-flopper I've ever seen. Next thing he will announce will be his conversion from mormonism to evangelical christian. He would be a perfect puppet for his corporate interest. Remember the pharmaceutical companies are "not the bad guys". McCain, I just can't agree with his policies. And his statements about the fed...

"Financial market events raise the urgency of cutting taxes and pro-growth policies in the United States. Last week I offered a strong, pro-growth plan to immediately stimulate the economy and strengthen it over the long term. The role of the Federal Reserve is to ensure that our financial markets are well-functioning and to support economic growth. I am confident that the action taken this morning to cut two key rates will support these goals. The U.S. economy has proven to be quite resilient. I am concerned about financial market events, but with the right leadership and pro-growth policies the economy can weather this upheaval."

I believe this is the root of all financial problems is when the fed cuts the interest rates... what bubble will they create now that will ultimately burst?

Ron Paul...is the only candidate that I have ever fully supported before. Just look him up on the web and you will find everything you need.

He was far and away the best choice for the conservative....I think if huckabee hadnt somehow gotten all this ridiculous, un-deserved hype Fred would be right in the thick of it. But, that's the way it goes...another year of voting for the lesser of two evils...All the rest of the repubs are the same now, just hope whoever gets in can beat hilary or barack.
AND NO PEOPLE, IT AIN'T RON PAUL!! He's has a few....VERY FEW...valid points in terms of economics and tax reform, but he is a pesemistic, creepy, paranoid lunatic on just about every other issue. Why do people like him???? I just don't get it.

The only paranoid lunatics are the indivduals that have been scared to death of this false since of Islamic terrorist. When the real terror is getting visited by the IRS, going to the gas pump, and last but not least being told what to think, do, and raise your children because someone else thinks it is better for you.

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Why do people like him???? I just don't get it.

Because Ron Paul is the only one who is in favor of a smaller government. He's the only one with the guts to say he would do away with the IRS and Federal Reserve. He has the best economic strategy of any other candidate running. He is the only one who believes in strictly following the constitution. He is the only candidate who truly believes in securing our border and is against amnesty for illegals.

All of the candidates keep talking about change. If you really want change, vote for someone who doesn't fit the republican or democrat mold. The only one that applies to is Ron Paul.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

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Originally posted by NashBama:

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Why do people like him???? I just don't get it.

Because Ron Paul is the only one who is in favor of a smaller government. He's the only one with the guts to say he would do away with the IRS and Federal Reserve. He has the best economic strategy of any other candidate running. He is the only one who believes in strictly following the constitution. He is the only candidate who truly believes in securing our border and is against amnesty for illegals.

All of the candidates keep talking about change. If you really want change, vote for someone who doesn't fit the republican or democrat mold. The only one that applies to is Ron Paul.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

I TOTALLY agree with you!!!

Doesn't Ron Paul say that he's going to do away with taxes altogether? or am I mistaken?

So, we get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS... what does this resolve? and how do maintain financial security without those two? I do think that many changes need to be made to the tax codes, but how does getting rid of those help us? Who is going to collect taxes or regulate the economy? I'm all for free markets and the government keeping its hand away from economic forces as much as possible, but the FED is about to keep us from going into a depression... I think I'd like to keep them around to keep the money supply in check and the interest rates where they need to be to give buyers and sellers of all markets the incentives they need to be able to sustain the economy. I'm all for smaller government, but I have to admit that having the Fed around has kept us out of experiencing another Great Depression.

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Doesn't Ron Paul say that he's going to do away with taxes altogether? or am I mistaken?

You're mistaken. Just the income tax.

People had financial security before the Federal Reserve and the IRS. The Federal Reserve centralizes power and gives it to a very small group. Think about how much stocks are affected by any small statement or decision by the chairman. That's not right.

The income tax is unconstitutional and wrong. The government managed to get by just fine without it for quite a long time and had no problem with revenue before the IRS. So why do we need them now?

Uh....did you not actually read my post?? I said his economic and tax thoughts were good, it's the rest of him that's goofy!!
I agree with everything you said about income taxes by the way...but Ron Paul has far too many negatives to be covered up by his good points on taxes....He's far...far...did I mention FAR to left of the fence on international policies...he sounds like the lefty loon, blame America first crowd.

It's not "blame America". It's blame the federal government policy. The policy is illogical. The policy does not protect the defense of individual liberties guaranteed by the constitution. The policy does not protect our military. The policy does not protect our borders. The policy of nation building and policing the foreign interest of the limited few does nothing but make the individual broke and no apathy.

I was sorry to see FRED get out of the race especially after his great showing on the last debate. I could have voted for that guy.

Ron Paul doesn't have a prayer. As PETER mentioned he has way to many negatives that out weigh the positives. He looked like a rambling fool in the last debate and it was obvious that the other condidates were imbarrassed for him.

I think it is a make or break for Rudy next week in Florida. Hope he does well just to tighten up the race a bit!

How is the income tax unconstitutional?

Not to open up a can of worms or anything... I've just never heard that, and would like to know what kind of basis that statement has.

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How is the income tax unconstitutional?

Not to open up a can of worms or anything... I've just never heard that, and would like to know what kind of basis that statement has.

This video does a good job of explaining things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZl6202HJGQ

I think Thompson dropped out for a good reason. My guess is that he saw he missed his window of opportunity and realized his campaign was poorly run. I predict that if McCain gets the nomination, Thompson will be his running mate.

BTW, Ron Paul finished 2nd in Nevada and Louisiana. He's picking up speed despite what the news tells you.

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Originally posted by FoshaBen:
Doesn't Ron Paul say that he's going to do away with taxes altogether? or am I mistaken?

So, we get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS... what does this resolve? and how do maintain financial security without those two? I do think that many changes need to be made to the tax codes, but how does getting rid of those help us? Who is going to collect taxes or regulate the economy? I'm all for free markets and the government keeping its hand away from economic forces as much as possible, but the FED is about to keep us from going into a depression... I think I'd like to keep them around to keep the money supply in check and the interest rates where they need to be to give buyers and sellers of all markets the incentives they need to be able to sustain the economy. I'm all for smaller government, but I have to admit that having the Fed around has kept us out of experiencing another Great Depression.

There is not much if any oversight of the fed. It is a privately owned institution. The government borrows the dollar from the fed and transfers it to the treasury. So basically when there is an economic crisis the fed will lower interest rates so the government can borrow more money. By the time the money that was just printed makes its way down to the typical american, inflation has already eroded its value. To abolish the fed then the US government will be back in control of monetery policy. To keep the dollar at a global level with other currencies it needs to be backed by something of real global value such as gold. Most of these economic "bubbles" are created when the fed lowers interest rates. Such is seen in the housing complex. Interest rates were lowered after 9/11 to try to jump start the economy by pure consumerism. More money was pumped into circulation and loaned to banks, brokers, middle-men, and realtors at low interest. Banks had more supply of money to loan people at the sub-prime level. Houses were built and loans where sold and traded at a value far more there worth. Inflation takes a hold of the person getting the last of the supply with a subprime loan he can't afford to pay anymore. No payment means no payment for a string of people and institutions. So the bubble bursts and spreads like a virus throughout.