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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

In reading the Obituaries, there was one obituary that said "There are no funeral services planned". Is that what one does if a person is to be cremated or possibly the deceased at one time requested no service?

Nothing more than curiosity but would like to hear your thoughts on it.

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Most likely cremation. It seems to be a trend and more and more are doing it, and my husband and I are considering it. Three people that I know of, who died in the last few years, have had no services and they were cremated. I think the families had some sort of memorial services later. It's way cheaper and easier on the families.

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Do atheist have funerals?  Just asking.  Maybe a "celebration of life?"

 

Christians who are cremated have funerals at their option.  Maybe in a church, maybe in a "funeral home," or maybe graveside or at sea.  Or maybe in this case, maybe not.  But the option to cremate has nothing to do with it with having a funeral or not.

 

Viewing does, but again that is an option.

 

My aunt who died just after turning 100 was a lifelong/devout Methodist.  In her will, she requested her body be used by a medical university and cremated.  We had a church memorial and graveside services for her interment.

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

In her will, she requested her body be used by a medical university and cremated.  We had a church memorial and graveside services for her interment.

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How long after her body was used by the medical university & cremated, was her church memorial & graveside service?

I read somewhere that if you donate your body for medical services, you will be cremated at no charge.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

In her will, she requested her body be used by a medical university and cremated.  We had a church memorial and graveside services for her interment.

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How long after her body was used by the medical university & cremated, was her church memorial & graveside service?

I read somewhere that if you donate your body for medical services, you will be cremated at no charge.

 

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Semi, when she passed, her church memorial service was within a few days.  It was for all intents and purposes the same as a funeral sans casket.  There was no formal visitation as such as folks paid their respects to the immediate family following the memorial service.

 

I don't remember how long the medical university kept her remains but to the best of my knowledge, she was cremated by them at no charge to the family.  But this wasn't done because she lacked the money.  She believed she could serve the greater good by taking the route she chose.

 

When her remains were returned, the family [children, DIL, grandchildren, SIL, and nephews/nieces/children] had a private graveyard service for her.

 

Personally, I'm going to opt for donation followed by cremation with a veteran's headstone and a Masonic graveside service in a family cemetery dating back to the 1800's.


 

 I have been to several funerals where there were no casket and no internment.

 When I die, I may not go to heaven

cause I don't know if they let cowboys in.

 

 I at least do not want an open casket for everyone to galk and ball over seeing me in a box.

 I do want everyone to remember me for what I was when I am alive and well!

 
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Do atheist have funerals?  Just asking.  Maybe a "celebration of life?"

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I guess it depends on the atheist and what they want. There are no rules that say any funeral has to have religious overtones.

 

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Well of course [slaps head] they do.  We have military funerals for atheist servicemen & women.

 

I don't know what I [wasn't] thinking.

 

Thanks.


 

Originally Posted by unclegus:
I at least do not want an open casket for everyone to galk and ball over seeing me in a box.

 I do want everyone to remember me for what I was when I am alive and well!

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I hate it when I hear people makes the comments they do. "Well, I don't believe I ever seen him/her look that nice when he/she was alive". "Oh, my goodness, look how swollen he/she looks".  Why can't they just keep their comments to themselves?

If I weren't going to be cremated, I wouldn't want an open casket either.

I remember bill cosby talking about how, if you are asleep on the couch and someone comes in, they'll shake you and yell "wake up!" When you do they say "man you looked like you were dead, I had to wake you up". But, those same people would go to a funeral and look at the deceased, all stiff and made up, and say, "he looks like he's asleep".  I don't care to see people in their coffin either, and I can't understand anyone taking pictures or videos of them, but I guess people grieve differently and maybe that helps them in some way.

quote:  Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

In reading the Obituaries, there was one obituary that said "There are no funeral services planned."  Is that what one does if a person is to be cremated or possibly the deceased at one time requested no service?  Nothing more than curiosity but would like to hear your thoughts on it.

Hi Chick,

 

I saw that obit also and was rather surprised.  Possibly the person did request no funeral service.  Many people do not like to attend funeral services.  I have a classmate in the Shoals area who my brother tells me has never attended the funeral services of any of our close friends and classmates who have passed away.  Not sure why; but maybe the services remind him too much of his own mortality. 

I have a long time Christian Friend, Don, who died just one year ago of cancer.  Several months before his death, he, his pastor, and their church decided to hold a memorial service for him while he was still alive.  That way he got to enjoy his own service -- and I will admit that it was nice to see him still smiling and with us.   Later, after he did pass away, he was cremated and his family had an interment service at our local military cemetery.   Today my wife and daughter are gathering with his widow to celebrate the one year anniversary of his passing.  In other words, they are joining with her to celebrate his life and to remember him.

 

Most often, when a believer passes away in another country, or is cremated, we hold a Memorial Service without a body present.  The service with the body present, and the service without the body present, is to celebrate the life of that person, to briefly mourn the loss of his/her presence in our lives, and to celebrate his/her Home Going to be with our Lord.  It is truly a celebration.

 

Someone mentioned discomfort when looking at the body in the coffin.  I will admit that is sometimes the case -- for it does remind us of our own mortality.  But, most often it is done when we take a moment to look upon a friend or loved one as we knew them in this life -- realizing that this body we are viewing is not the person we knew, but only the mortal shell left behind.  That person who is a believer -- is, at that moment, already in heaven and enjoying fellowship with Jesus Christ and with other believing loved ones and friends who went before.

 

Just this week a Christian Friend, Ed, with whom I have worshiped and studied for many years, fell from a ladder and sustained a head injury which took his life.  I have no doubt whatsoever that, at this very moment, Don and Ed are enjoying fellowship and enjoying the joy of being in the presence of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

 

Why do we sometimes view the body when it makes us a wee bit uncomfortable?   We do it to respect the person himself/herself.  And, we do it to respect the loved ones left behind.   It is sort of a way of saying, "We stand with you and will be here for you in your time of need."

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I brought this up to some friends today, one of them said he was going to the body farm if they wanted him. For some reason that's a bit much for me to think about doing.

 

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Oh, the irony.  Here be me, a Christian ready to face the fires of eternal cremation.

 

And an atheist concerned about decomposing for evolution.

 

j/k

 

Anyhow, Best, you got me rethinking that cremation thing and with all this talk about viewing and such ...

 

SO

 

Prop me up beside the juke box if I die
Lord, I want to go to heaven, but I don't want to go tonight
Fill my boots up with sand, put a stiff drink in my haaaaaaaaand
Prop me up beside the jukebox if I die.

 

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics...hejukeboxifidie.html


 

Oh, the irony.  Here be me, a Christian ready to face the fires of eternal cremation.

 

And an atheist concerned about decomposing for evolution.

 

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 I wouldn't call it concerned about decomposing for evolution, whatever the heck that even means. I might have even considered it at one time, but I wouldn't do it because it would bother my family, and we are leaning towards cremation. I wouldn't want any of my family laid out in a field. But, with that said, I know there are people that it wouldn't bother, and that is why people do it. There is nothing at all wrong with it if that is what they want. He said, to him it would be like some Native Americans used to do, put their dead up on scaffold or in trees, Everyone is different, and if that is what my friend wants to do, that's fine, but as I posted, a bit much for me to think about doing.

 

 

 

 

 

I also wouldn't do this or want any family member to do it either.

 

 

 

WICKLIFFE -- The idea might be morbid to some people but others consider it the ultimate way to honor a lost loved one.

Today, more people are taking cremation ashes, known as cremains, and having them put into a permanent memorial tattoo.

Travis Green wears a vile around his neck, that contains a small amount of his father's ashes. But Travis decided that he wants his late father closer.

In fact, it was something the two talked about even before his father's death.

"I brought this up to him once a long time ago, yeah, if you ever die, I will get you tattooed in me, so here I am," Travis says.

The practice -- called "commemorative or ritual tattoos" -- isn't new but it is gaining in popularity, says Bob Johnson of Finest Lines in Wickliffe.

He's been doing it for 30 years and says he's never had any complications with clients.

"We do it quite a bit. It's something we've done for a long time." he says. He adds that the amount of ashes used is microscopic.

"The preparation is different but it's the same way we would do any tattoo. We sterilize them first in an autoclave as we would the rest of the equipment, and them make sure it's fine powder and mix it with the ink." Bob says.

Tattooing laws and guidelines vary from state to state.

Ohio laws don't address the practice directly, but are clear on sterilization and sanitation procedures. Proponents say the ash is made sterile and poses no health risk.

But medical professionals caution that, any time you put a foreign substance in your body, you run the risk of problems ranging from rejection to infection.

Travis Green isn't worried, but rather relieved that now he will always carry a part of his father with him wherever he goes.

WKYC-TV

 

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Originally Posted by budsfarm:

Oh, the irony.  Here be me, a Christian ready to face the fires of eternal cremation.

And an atheist concerned about decomposing for evolution.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 I wouldn't call it concerned about decomposing for evolution, whatever the heck that even means.

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You two made me laugh, & I needed a laugh today. Thank you.

 
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

Oh, the irony.  Here be me, a Christian ready to face the fires of eternal cremation.

And an atheist concerned about decomposing for evolution.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 I wouldn't call it concerned about decomposing for evolution, whatever the heck that even means.

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You two made me laugh, & I needed a laugh today. Thank you.

 

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Glad you got the "j/k" part.

 

Yeah, that decomposing thing for evolution is kind of tricky.  Unless you believe our prehistoric ancestors still walk among the newer and improved us.  Or creationism. 

 

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