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I wanted to put this in a topic of it's own so that Gingee might be sure to see it since she/he jumps around so much, makes a comment then runs away for a few days. And like Bill, doesn't answer questions regarding a stupid comment they made.

In the topic 20 Reasons to Abandon Christianity, on Sunday, Dec. 4, at approx. 9:20 am, Gingee made the following post to me.

 

Originally Posted by Gingee:

In one post you say you are a Christian in another you say you are not a Christian. You are one confused individual.

 

Say what???? I challenged her/him to show me one post where I have ever said I'm a Christian. Of course, that can't be done because there isn't one, as everyone here knows. And I'm the one that's confused??!!?

 

This isn't the first time that Gingee has made some outlandish post & then run off. Why do Christians tell a lie & then run off?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by lexum:

Because it’s an invention of your mind semi dear. You accuse everyone of the same deed over and over. You are not going to be satisfied without your pound of flesh from everyone you see as an enemy.

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How is it an invention of my mind that Gingee told a lie? It's right there in black & white. She/he said I had posted I was a Christian & I have not.

Who have I accused besides Gingee? No one has ever said that before that I have seen.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

I wanted to put this in a topic of it's own so that Gingee might be sure to see it since she/he jumps around so much, makes a comment then runs away for a few days. And like Bill, doesn't answer questions regarding a stupid comment they made.

In the topic 20 Reasons to Abandon Christianity, on Sunday, Dec. 4, at approx. 9:20 am, Gingee made the following post to me.

 

Originally Posted by Gingee:

In one post you say you are a Christian in another you say you are not a Christian. You are one confused individual.

 

Say what???? I challenged her/him to show me one post where I have ever said I'm a Christian. Of course, that can't be done because there isn't one, as everyone here knows. And I'm the one that's confused??!!?

 

This isn't the first time that Gingee has made some outlandish post & then run off. Why do Christians tell a lie & then run off?

 

 

 

Finding the post where you said you were a Christian would be almost impossible for me to find. I do believe you made that statement. If you say you're not a Christian I will accept that but I will monitor your comments in the future. You ask why "Christians tell a lie and then run off". It's this kind of mentality that someone like you who love to degrade Christians have. Why did you involve all Christians? If you have a problem with me you can address me without lashing out at all Christians.

I don't believe I have ever seen a post by you that says anything about the good that Christians do.

As for me posting a comment and running off. I have to make a living. I'm not on welfare, food stamps or disability. I try to reply to most posts if I believe they are worthy of a reply.

Whether you agree or not their are good Christians in the world and the good thing is there will be good Christians in Heaven. You have heard the word. You have the opportunity to change your life. You are one breath away from eternity.

You, Gingee, are a nut! You will monitor my comments in the future???? I have a suggestion. Why don’t you ignore my comments in the future? Finding that post you claim I made is not almost impossible to find. All you have to do is go to search, put in my ID, & the comment you claim I made. Wa La, proof that I didn’t say it because it doesn’t exist.

 

Christian with an s means more than one. Hence, the reason for my using Christians. You & Bill Gray are two, lexum is three…….Christian with an s.

 

Someone like me? I love to degrade Christians? If the shoe fits wear it! Bill is constantly making remarks about things people say that was not said. That, my dear, is what a lie is. You also do that frequently, & so does lexum. I’ve asked all of you before to show me things you claim I’ve said but you either chose to ignore my request or you knew you couldn’t.

 

Have you ever said anything good about what non-believers & Atheist do? I’ve seen it mentioned before but some of the Christians on this forum mock them.

Why should I say anything about the good that Christians do when they usually toot their own horn. Not all, but the majority.

 

So the comments you’ve made about me, & my questions as to why you would say something like that, aren’t worthy of a reply? Yeah, I get it. That’s real Christian of you.

 

I’ve never said there's not any good Christians in this world. You evidently miss a lot of my post & those you do read, you make up things that I didn’t say.

 

Sure, I’ve heard the word. I can probably give you scriptures out of the Bible you’ve never heard of. Why would I want to change my life? What do you know about it?

 

Did you know the Bible says we can recognize a false prophet by his fruits—by what he says & does? That they will come to us in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves?

You also are one breath away from eternity. You might want to think about coming out of those sheep’s clothing.

 

Matthew 7:21 says "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven".

I'm not stupid. I can easily see who is doing the will of the Father.

Now ask me why I believe that you, lexum, & Bill are not the Christians you claim to be.

 

 

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Gingee:

 

Bill, hang in there! You are being heard by those who are searching for something other than the material things of this world. They need to hear the Word and you have given it to them over and over, you are to be commended. As for the unbelievers, they hide behind their father Satan, constantly changing their disguise to attempt to keep others that are lost from becoming Children of Light. Some, who once believed have turned their backs on Christ for the things of this world. Since they are lost they want some company.

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Gingee, please explain the "material things" of this world that unbelievers are seeking. Did you not work gingee? Didn't you gather "material things", aren't you seeking material things still? Christmas is coming, how much will you spend on material things to give, and how many material things will you get? What material things have you given up? Satan?  Satan only exists for believers. There is no more a satan than there is a god. What "darkness", what "wounds" do you think non-believers have? It's only you believers that live in darkness, fear, and have wounds that you think some mythical god will one day "heal". Why can't your loving god give you peace and comfort in the here and now? Why do you have to wait until you're dead? Pitiful pitiful pitiful is all I can say about you and the bill's of this world. You can't live a happy life because you're fixated on another one. Is that what your god wants? That's why as far as I'm concerned you can keep your god and the misery he brings to you.

Originally Posted by lexum:

trust me semi, i know your intentions,shortcomings, thoughts, misconceptions, temptations desires and weaknesses.

to prove it : you've always wanted to have a Red Ryder BB gun with lots of BB's.

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Just can't do it, can you? You can't tell me how it's an invention of my mind that Gingee told a lie?

 

Gingee you have no idea why people come to their non belief, and even though you and bill and the others have been told time and time again, you had rather lie about them. Then you dare call semi confused? I couldn't tell you how many times the so called christians on this forum have said "it's not my place to judge, it's gawd's place", then they go right ahead and judge people, just like you do. You have a problem with semi or anyone else posting christians (meaning all) but you, ever the hypocrite, have no problem posting unbelievers (meaning all) hide behind satan. To unbelievers satan is just as made up as your god. Go scare your innocent little children with your satan tales, it doesn't work on rational adults.

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by lexum:

trust me semi, i know your intentions,shortcomings, thoughts, misconceptions, temptations desires and weaknesses.

to prove it : you've always wanted to have a Red Ryder BB gun with lots of BB's.

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Just can't do it, can you? You can't tell me how it's an invention of my mind that Gingee told a lie?

 

He also said I cursed him and wished him dead. He couldn't show those posts either.

Originally Posted by lexum:

trust me semi, i know your intentions,shortcomings, thoughts, misconceptions, temptations desires and weaknesses.

to prove it : you've always wanted to have a Red Ryder BB gun with lots of BB's.

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Just can't do it, can you? You can't tell me how it's an invention of my mind that Gingee told a lie?

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:
He also said I cursed him and wished him dead. He couldn't show those posts either.

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I have never seen you say anything like that & he knows you didn't.

quote:  Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:

This is just a suggestion...not one of the ten commandments...but refraining from using the words "dumb" or "stupid" usually makes a post more readable.  I believe Gingee made a mistake about what Semi said.  It's easy to do because of the quote function in this software that the TD now uses.


Hi Firenze and Gingee,

 

Firenze, you are "right on" about the formatting of this new forum software.  But, there is a good side to it also.  It does give us many more formatting options with which we can make our posts more readable.  Unfortunately, most forum members do not want to take the time to use these formatting options -- and this is what makes the posts often hard to read -- more specifically, makes it difficult to figure out who said what.  This is why I will take the time to format my posts.  I want them to be as clearly defined and as readable as possible.

 

Gingee, I will have to agree with Firenze, that Chick has never claimed to be a Christian.   Years ago, she did tell us that while her husband is a believer, she is not.  She has suggested that she most likely is an agnostic -- since she cannot say for certain that God does not exist. 

 

But, it does seem that in more recent years, possibly in the last year, she has become more militant toward Christian believers and what we believe.  I am not sure why this is; but, that is the feeling I have gotten from dialoguing with her over the past years.

 

At the present time, I feel that both Chick and Jennifer are very hard line anti-Christian -- and their posts reflect this.  In their minds, everything a Christian believer writes is either stupid, dumb, or most frequently -- a lie.

 

I would suggest that we believers just stop reacting to their constant declarations of, "It's a lie!" -- and, respond only to posts which offer viable comments which can be used to share the Word of God with those on the Religion Forum who do not dislike or, at worst, hate us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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At the present time, I feel that both Chick and Jennifer are very hard line anti-Christian -- and their posts reflect this.  In their minds, everything a Christian believer writes is either stupid, dumb, or most frequently -- a lie.

 

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Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:

This is just a suggestion...not one of the ten commandments...but refraining from using the words "dumb" or "stupid" usually makes a post more readable. I believe Gingee made a mistake about what Semi said. It's easy to do because of the quote function in this software that the TD now uses.

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I don't normally use the word stupid or dumb in relation to a person. I despise those words but when pushed, I will use them. This is not the first time Gingee said I have said something I didn't. Bill does it too.

All can't be a mistake of the quote function. It does get confusing when someone quotes so many people. That's why I will put the ID with who said what. Takes a little time but it's worth it to me.

 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Firenze and Gingee,

Gingee, I will have to agree with Firenze, that Chick has never claimed to be a Christian.   Years ago, she did tell us that while her husband is a believer, she is not.  She has suggested that she most likely is an agnostic -- since she cannot say for certain that God does not exist. 

But, it does seem that in more recent years, possibly in the last year, she has become more militant toward Christian believers and what we believe.  I am not sure why this is; but, that is the feeling I have gotten from dialoguing with her over the past years.

At the present time, I feel that both Chick and Jennifer are very hard line anti-Christian -- and their posts reflect this.  In their minds, everything a Christian believer writes is either stupid, dumb, or most frequently -- a lie.

I would suggest that we believers just stop reacting to their constant declarations of, "It's a lie!" -- and, respond only to posts which offer viable comments which can be used to share the Word of God with those on the Religion Forum who do not dislike or, at worst, hate us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Thank you, Bill, for confirming that. It’s very much appreciated.

 

If I appear more militant it’s because I’m so sick of all the judging, the lack of compassion & love from some Christians. I’ve never said that a Christian is not a Christian if they get angry or that they should be perfect. I do believe that even in anger the tongue can be controlled.  There’s some things we just shouldn’t say, especially a believer. Gossip is another thing I have a problem with in a Christian. Instead of tearing down, or gossip about another Christian or someone in your church, the Bible says to encourage & edify one another in the Lord. I don’t see much of that.

I have a family member that I do not like going around just because, like you, he wants to beat people over the head with Christianity, especially me. So I avoid him at all cost.

 

No, everything a Christian says is not stupid, dumb or a lie. If you repeat something that I was supposed to say & I tell you I did not, why do you not apologize, or at least admit you were wrong? Why do you refuse to discuss it?

 

I have Christian’s in my family that I love dearly, as I’m sure Jenn does. They do not discuss religion with me & I don’t bring it up to them. I do sometimes discuss religion with my husband but rarely.

I don’t hate anyone on this forum, saved or unsaved. There is a few people that I dislike, but I don’t hate them.

 

I’m not constantly saying “It’s a lie”. If anyone, like Gingee did, claims I said something I didn’t, that is a lie.

I have never told you not to share the Word of God, though I think you go about it wrong. I believe you do much damage with your OSAS theory but as I will answer for anything I do/say, I truly believe you will also answer to God for what you do/say.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

You, Gingee, are a nut! You will monitor my comments in the future???? I have a suggestion. Why don’t you ignore my comments in the future? Finding that post you claim I made is not almost impossible to find. All you have to do is go to search, put in my ID, & the comment you claim I made. Wa La, proof that I didn’t say it because it doesn’t exist.

 

Christian with an s means more than one. Hence, the reason for my using Christians. You & Bill Gray are two, lexum is three…….Christian with an s.

 

Someone like me? I love to degrade Christians? If the shoe fits wear it! Bill is constantly making remarks about things people say that was not said. That, my dear, is what a lie is. You also do that frequently, & so does lexum. I’ve asked all of you before to show me things you claim I’ve said but you either chose to ignore my request or you knew you couldn’t.

 

Have you ever said anything good about what non-believers & Atheist do? I’ve seen it mentioned before but some of the Christians on this forum mock them.

Why should I say anything about the good that Christians do when they usually toot their own horn. Not all, but the majority.

 

So the comments you’ve made about me, & my questions as to why you would say something like that, aren’t worthy of a reply? Yeah, I get it. That’s real Christian of you.

 

I’ve never said there's not any good Christians in this world. You evidently miss a lot of my post & those you do read, you make up things that I didn’t say.

 

Sure, I’ve heard the word. I can probably give you scriptures out of the Bible you’ve never heard of. Why would I want to change my life? What do you know about it?

 

Did you know the Bible says we can recognize a false prophet by his fruits—by what he says & does? That they will come to us in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves?

You also are one breath away from eternity. You might want to think about coming out of those sheep’s clothing.

 

Matthew 7:21 says "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven".

I'm not stupid. I can easily see who is doing the will of the Father.

Now ask me why I believe that you, lexum, & Bill are not the Christians you claim to be.

 

 

To not be a Christian you sure do preach a lot.

I think you are confusing "Christian" with "Saint". I never claimed to be a saint. I fbelieve Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that he died for my sins. That doesn't mean I have to listen to people like yourself denegrade Christians.Take a breath.

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Gingee:

 

Bill, hang in there! You are being heard by those who are searching for something other than the material things of this world. They need to hear the Word and you have given it to them over and over, you are to be commended. As for the unbelievers, they hide behind their father Satan, constantly changing their disguise to attempt to keep others that are lost from becoming Children of Light. Some, who once believed have turned their backs on Christ for the things of this world. Since they are lost they want some company.

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Gingee, please explain the "material things" of this world that unbelievers are seeking. Did you not work gingee? Didn't you gather "material things", aren't you seeking material things still? Christmas is coming, how much will you spend on material things to give, and how many material things will you get? What material things have you given up? Satan?  Satan only exists for believers. There is no more a satan than there is a god. What "darkness", what "wounds" do you think non-believers have? It's only you believers that live in darkness, fear, and have wounds that you think some mythical god will one day "heal". Why can't your loving god give you peace and comfort in the here and now? Why do you have to wait until you're dead? Pitiful pitiful pitiful is all I can say about you and the bill's of this world. You can't live a happy life because you're fixated on another one. Is that what your god wants? That's why as far as I'm concerned you can keep your god and the misery he brings to you.

Thanks for your permission.

O?riginally Posted by Bestworking:

Gingee you have no idea why people come to their non belief, and even though you and bill and the others have been told time and time again, you had rather lie about them. Then you dare call semi confused? I couldn't tell you how many times the so called christians on this forum have said "it's not my place to judge, it's gawd's place", then they go right ahead and judge people, just like you do. You have a problem with semi or anyone else posting christians (meaning all) but you, ever the hypocrite, have no problem posting unbelievers (meaning all) hide behind satan. To unbelievers satan is just as made up as your god. Go scare your innocent little children with your satan tales, it doesn't work on rational adults.

You say satan doesn't exist I say he does so now what? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Thank you, Bill, for confirming that. It’s very much appreciated.

 

If I appear more militant it’s because I’m so sick of all the judging, the lack of compassion & love from some Christians. I’ve never said that a Christian is not a Christian if they get angry or that they should be perfect. I do believe that even in anger the tongue can be controlled.  There’s some things we just shouldn’t say, especially a believer. Gossip is another thing I have a problem with in a Christian. Instead of tearing down, or gossip about another Christian or someone in your church, the Bible says to encourage & edify one another in the Lord. I don’t see much of that.

I have a family member that I do not like going around just because, like you, he wants to beat people over the head with Christianity, especially me. So I avoid him at all cost.

 

No, everything a Christian says is not stupid, dumb or a lie. If you repeat something that I was supposed to say & I tell you I did not, why do you not apologize, or at least admit you were wrong? Why do you refuse to discuss it?

 

I have Christian’s in my family that I love dearly, as I’m sure Jenn does. They do not discuss religion with me & I don’t bring it up to them. I do sometimes discuss religion with my husband but rarely.

I don’t hate anyone on this forum, saved or unsaved. There is a few people that I dislike, but I don’t hate them.

 

I’m not constantly saying “It’s a lie”. If anyone, like Gingee did, claims I said something I didn’t, that is a lie.

I have never told you not to share the Word of God, though I think you go about it wrong. I believe you do much damage with your OSAS theory but as I will answer for anything I do/say, I truly believe you will also answer to God for what you do/say.

 

It would seem that I have indeed made a bad mistake. I did believe that I had read a post saying that you were a Christian. You have my most humble apology. I cannot undo what I said but I do apologize. Being a Christian is not easy. I have read so many post with what seems like a hatred for Christians.Christians  do not claim to be perfect. We are far from it. We sin just as someone who doesn't believe sins. But the difference is that we have the Holy Spirit that helps us get back on the right path.  Sure we say bad things sometimes and we do bad things sometimes but we never quit trying to please God.

God bless

Originally Posted by Gingee:
 To not be a Christian you sure do preach a lot.

I think you are confusing "Christian" with "Saint". I never claimed to be a saint. I fbelieve Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that he died for my sins. That doesn't mean I have to listen to people like yourself denegrade Christians.Take a breath.

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To be a Christian, you sure do judge a lot.

Nobody said or even implied you were a Saint. That word was mentioned by you alone.

I don't preach but I will give my opinion on those that wear sheep's clothing.

If you think I'm degrading you, why are you reading my post?

Originally Posted by Gingee:

It would seem that I have indeed made a bad mistake. I did believe that I had read a post saying that you were a Christian. You have my most humble apology. I cannot undo what I said but I do apologize.

We sin just as someone who doesn't believe sins. But the difference is that we have the Holy Spirit that helps us get back on the right path.  Sure we say bad things sometimes and we do bad things sometimes but we never quit trying to please God.

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I tried to tell you that you made a mistake but you wouldn't listen to me. You as good as accused me of lying.

No one has said that believers don't sin. If you have the Holy Spirit, is there ever a time you try not to sin, or do you just give in to it? Those bad things you say & do doesn't have to be done. Why is it Christians will do those things anyway & then turn around & say, "Oh, I just sinned so you have to forgive me God until I do it again". That's just about the guts of it.

 

BTW, that apology of yours seems kinda fake. It came only after Bill & Fire corrected you. My word wasn't good enough. Since I'm not a Christian, my word is no good.

Is this where I'm supposed to thank you for your apology? Sorry, it's not happening.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

Originally Posted by Gingee:

It would seem that I have indeed made a bad mistake. I did believe that I had read a post saying that you were a Christian. You have my most humble apology. I cannot undo what I said but I do apologize.

We sin just as someone who doesn't believe sins. But the difference is that we have the Holy Spirit that helps us get back on the right path.  Sure we say bad things sometimes and we do bad things sometimes but we never quit trying to please God.

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I tried to tell you that you made a mistake but you wouldn't listen to me. You as good as accused me of lying.

No one has said that believers don't sin. If you have the Holy Spirit, is there ever a time you try not to sin, or do you just give in to it? Those bad things you say & do doesn't have to be done. Why is it Christians will do those things anyway & then turn around & say, "Oh, I just sinned so you have to forgive me God until I do it again". That's just about the guts of it.

 

BTW, that apology of yours seems kinda fake. It came only after Bill & Fire corrected you. My word wasn't good enough. Since I'm not a Christian, my word is no good.

Is this where I'm supposed to thank you for your apology? Sorry, it's not happening.

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Semi, you know I love you but why do you keep saying Christians, in general, feel that we can sin with abandon just because we know we will be forgiven? That is NOT the way it works! Rather, we KNOW that every time we sin, we hurt Jesus who DIED for us. We LOVE Jesus and don't WANT to hurt Him. We really DO try to avoid sin for that reason. Just as atheists try to avoid sin, well, they don't CALL it sin, but they try to avoid doing what they consider wrong because they don't want to deal with a guilty conscience. Christians get a guilty conscience when we do wrong, the same way atheists do, PLUS we had the added incentive to make the Lord we love happy.

 

Another thing Christians strive to do is ask forgivness when we have wronged someone, and most importantly, we forgive as we have been forgiven. This does double duty - we are pleasing God, which makes us happy, PLUS we get rid of any pent up anger or resentment we may be holding. Makes for a much more relaxed life,

 

Sometimes I think that is one of the biggest differences between Christians and atheist. Christians want to forgive, and atheists want to revel in their anger. Look at Jennifer. You know I gave her a very sincere olive branch, and not only did she not accept it, but she even ran away for a couple of days so she wouldn't have to answer. It seems that part of being atheist is a strong sense of self-reliance, and that leads them to be a little harder, a little tougher, a little less yielding. Christians on the other hand, tend to be a bit more empathetic, a bit more understanding, a bit more willing to compromise for the greater good.

 

 

Ono, I know your intentions with your sympathy for semi are indeed noble.

We all love semi. She has been whining for years on here about not being a critchun.

    Let me make a serious suggestion. Not knowing where your studio is located, would it be possible for you to enroll her, at normal cost for your service, in guitar lessons. I am no instructor but I have played since a young boy. It is very therapeutic . I think the guitar would be a release from her constant whining for years on here about not being a crtichun. We love you semi and that matters most.

Originally Posted by O No!:

Semi, you know I love you but why do you keep saying Christians, in general, feel that we can sin with abandon just because we know we will be forgiven? That is NOT the way it works!

Another thing Christians strive to do is ask forgivness when we have wronged someone, This does double duty - we are pleasing God, which makes us happy, PLUS we get rid of any pent up anger or resentment we may be holding.

Look at Jennifer. You know I gave her a very sincere olive branch, and not only did she not accept it, but she even ran away for a couple of days so she wouldn't have to answer.
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I always forget to put “some” Christians in my post, but I really don’t mean all. Just the majority,  & I'm not always speaking of just the ones on this forum.

 

I honestly do know some Christians that do sin because they think they can ask forgiveness & believe it will be given. And it may be, who knows?

 

I see some Christians on this forum trash others just because they don’t like or don’t agree with them & I never see forgiveness ask. Why is that? Why trash them in the first place?

Bill goes about it in a sneaky way, thinking we won’t get what he’s really saying. Gingee has never said anything positive to me, has always called everything I say a lie. I try to understand some of the Christians here but it’s near to impossible.

 

I can't speak for Jenn as to why she didn't accept the olive branch. Maybe she didn't trust you? I don't know. I like Jenn, I believe she honestly has a good heart. But I have gotten to know Jenn outside this forum, in PM's. Talking privately to someone can give you a better sense of who they are. There are people on this forum that despise me & that's ok.

 

I love you too, my friend. I don't know what I would have done w/o you during my recent ordeal. Did you get my last email, right after Thanksgiving?

 

Originally Posted by lexum:

Ono you did indeed extend the olive branch to jennifer.

An accomplished Ahole she is obliged to always show her rear to empress someone on here.

   She has got to be an unhappy person sittin’ up there atop that flagpole for so many days now.

Hey!!!up there jennifer, we love you too.

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Why don't you use the whole word, lexum? Do you think using the entire word will somehow make you look bad as a "Christian"? No need to worry because you show us everyday exactly what kind of "Christian" you are. Do you know that I have never seen you say one kind word to anyone on this forum? What does that say about you? I don't know why I ask because, like Bill, you don't answer questions.

 

Jenn is not an Ahole & has never tried to impress anyone on this forum! You call Jenn unhappy when you are always belittling most everyone on here? What does that say about you? Jenn has as much right to defend what she does/doesn't believe as you do.

Originally Posted by O No!:
Semi, you know I love you but why do you keep saying Christians, in general, feel that we can sin with abandon just because we know we will be forgiven? That is NOT the way it works! Rather, we KNOW that every time we sin, we hurt Jesus who DIED for us. We LOVE Jesus and don't WANT to hurt Him. We really DO try to avoid sin for that reason. Just as atheists try to avoid sin, well, they don't CALL it sin, but they try to avoid doing what they consider wrong because they don't want to deal with a guilty conscience. Christians get a guilty conscience when we do wrong, the same way atheists do, PLUS we had the added incentive to make the Lord we love happy.

 

Agree about the Christian statements. Maybe atheists avoid what they consider wrong because it is wrong.  (Canade)

 

Another thing Christians strive to do is ask forgivness when we have wronged someone, and most importantly, we forgive as we have been forgiven. This does double duty - we are pleasing God, which makes us happy, PLUS we get rid of any pent up anger or resentment we may be holding. Makes for a much more relaxed life.  (Mostly agree - sometimes it's hard for me to get rid of pent up anger and resentment. Takes me awhile. Canade)

 

Sometimes I think that is one of the biggest differences between Christians and atheist. Christians want to forgive, and atheists want to revel in their anger. Look at Jennifer. You know I gave her a very sincere olive branch, and not only did she not accept it, but she even ran away for a couple of days so she wouldn't have to answer. It seems that part of being atheist is a strong sense of self-reliance, and that leads them to be a little harder, a little tougher, a little less yielding. Christians on the other hand, tend to be a bit more empathetic, a bit more understanding, a bit more willing to compromise for the greater good.

 

I don't agree. I have seen atheists and agnostics express willingness to forgive, as well as Christians. I have also seen Christians who were not willing to forgive others. I think it just depends on the person.  Sorry. JMHO

 

 

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