quote:I asked for a long range chart and you certainly provided one. But this is a little too long range
Some people are never happy.
If you are so worried about CO2, plant lots of broad leaf trees!
quote:I asked for a long range chart and you certainly provided one. But this is a little too long range
quote:Originally posted by Chow:
you don't believe me and I don't believe you so we are when we started and no I have not buried my head in the sand.
quote:Originally posted by LMM:
If you are so worried about CO2, plant lots of broad leaf trees!
quote:Originally posted by Cookey:
I guess I'll have to say it until I'm blue in the face that I do NOT agree with any draconiam measures to reduce CO2 emmissions or give up our lifestyle.
quote:That said, I will step into the political realm and state emphatically that I believe we should all do everything we can to wean ourselves from the teat of Middle Eastern oil.
quote:Originally posted by Cookey:quote:Originally posted by Chow:
you don't believe me and I don't believe you so we are when we started and no I have not buried my head in the sand.
But that is the point. Your "belief" does not change reality. Global Warming is not a religions debate where your "beliefs" are, in fact, reality. This is real stuff. You are burying your head in the sand.
Tell me, do you think the chart I just posted is a complete fabrication by the "scientific establishment"? What specific facts do you base your answer upon?
quote:The reality is that folks are catching onto the fact that man-made global warming is a hoax, an inconvenient truth attested to by more and more scientists. Like any good con man, Obama wants to hurry the shakedown before his mark figures out his game. Democrats actually said that “If we do not act now, the climate will soon be out of our control.” This, of course, raises the question: just when was the climate ever under our control? Leave it to Obama to think he can control the weather.
While Cap and Trade is clearly being pushed by Nanny Pelosi and Obama, he has not really talked much on the subject for fear it might fail. In fairness, Obama seems increasingly uncomfortable talking about anything but himself.
After passage by the House of Representatives, the bill goes to the Senate where a compromise might be struck. Instead of making companies pay the government for the privilege of conducting their business, perhaps Congress will take a page from the extortion/protection racket practiced by the Mafia for years and will just let the businesses write their checks directly to the Democratic National Committee.
Obviously, the big winner here is any business not located in the United States. Obama’s policies of empowering unions, making it easy for plaintiffs’ attorneys to sue, increasing regulation, and raising taxes will chase more companies out of the United States to business-friendly countries overseas. It is no accident that more of the big IPOs of companies are now taking place on foreign exchanges.
The myth of man-made global warming was started by the left, fanned by Democratic outcast Al Gore with his “The Sky Is Falling/Chicken-Little” slide show, and perpetuated by attacking anyone who dared to question his dubious science. That is pretty much the MO of the left: begin with a self-righteous premise, repeat it often enough, say things like “The science is conclusive on this,” and then personally attack anyone who disagrees. If Gore cares that much about the earth’s temperature, he could just walk around providing shade for cities.
We have been lulled to sleep by the media’s frivolous entertainment. Our newspapers are slowly dying because they have become cheerleaders and not independent purveyors of the truth, allowing our politicians to get away with egregious conduct and the waste of our national resources.
Obama said that “Global warming is happening much quicker than we thought.” Then one of his handlers reminded him that it is now summer.
Undaunted by the dismal success rate of past scientists’ predictions (Y2K doomsday threats, the hole in the ozone layer scare, the dangers of nuclear power), the Democrats lumber forward. In fact, what was the last dire prediction of leftist scientists that actually came true? If you think of any, let me know.
quote:Obama said that “Global warming is happening much quicker than we thought.” Then one of his handlers reminded him that it is now summer.
quote:Originally posted by 8I:
I'm not 100% sure about global warming, tho it seems to me that there is much more data to support it than refute it.
quote:Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
Back atcha.
[QUOTE]The reality is that folks are catching onto the fact that man-made global warming is a hoax, an inconvenient truth attested to by more and more scientists.
quote:Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
My gentle reminder to you is that funding for things scientific is ALWAYS political.
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
Consensus is not part of the scientific principle, only part of the political principle..
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
However, when the Indian subcontinent slammed into Asia creating the Himalayas, the result was a heat sink that siphons much of the heat into the upper atmosphere creating the temperate regions.
quote:The "contrarian" Hansen referred to, Dr. John Christy, is director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama and a panelist on the National Academy of Science's report on temperature reconstructions. His testimony covered research he has conducted on the effect that land use and urbanization have on temperature change, and the observed "shortcomings" of climate models to reflect these effects.
This un-classy display of intolerance was topped last September when Dr. Hansen reported to the Denver Post that "Some of this noise won't stop until some of these scientists are dead."
quote:Those who question if that's a fact are no longer simply nay-sayers or skeptics. They are flat-earthers, "known liars," and war criminals.
quote:Originally posted by LMM:
Skep, I gave up showing you sites 8 pages back.
Here's one you can look at or not.
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quote:Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
And good old Dr. Hansen is very tolerant of dissent:quote:The "contrarian" Hansen referred to, Dr. John Christy, is director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama and a panelist on the National Academy of Science's report on temperature reconstructions. His testimony covered research he has conducted on the effect that land use and urbanization have on temperature change, and the observed "shortcomings" of climate models to reflect these effects.
This un-classy display of intolerance was topped last September when Dr. Hansen reported to the Denver Post that "Some of this noise won't stop until some of these scientists are dead."
...referring to GW "deniers". Also referred to as follows:quote:Those who question if that's a fact are no longer simply nay-sayers or skeptics. They are flat-earthers, "known liars," and war criminals.
This approach to honest scientific inquiry is quite fascist.
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quote:Originally posted by LMM:
The earth and ALL OTHER PLANETS go through temperature changes. Up and down, for centuries at a time. CO2 is a LAGGING indicator of warmer temperatures. The sun affects our global weather.
Man made pollutants affect the climate about 1% to 3%.
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
I suspect we are moving into a cooling period.
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
Simple! Global warming ceased 11 years ago, a cooling trend developed over the last two years, and the plasma flow on the sun's surface has changed over the last year resulting in significantly decreased solar winds.
quote:Originally posted by interventor1:
You neglected to point out that the WMO is entity of the UN. Thru the IPCC, the UN has definite reasons for using global warming to their advantage.