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hmmm a great car?,,, I would think a great car is one that is still on the road after 10 years with few challenges and has good resell like the Civic. Govt. motors has history of cutting corners and putting cheap parts on its cars
besides after the bail out I won't guy them no matter what... Does Govt Motors build any autos in Alabama?
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Originally posted by 1130:
hmmm a great car?,,, I would think a great car is one that is still on the road after 10 years with few challenges and has good resell like the Civic. Govt. motors has history of cutting corners and putting cheap parts on its cars
besides after the bail out I won't guy them no matter what... Does Govt Motors build any autos in Alabama?


I agree with you 100%. I also won’t purchase a Chrysler. They took bail out money too.
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Originally posted by Jobe:
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Originally posted by 1130:
hmmm a great car?,,, I would think a great car is one that is still on the road after 10 years with few challenges and has good resell like the Civic. Govt. motors has history of cutting corners and putting cheap parts on its cars
besides after the bail out I won't guy them no matter what... Does Govt Motors build any autos in Alabama?


I agree with you 100%. I also won’t purchase a Chrysler. They took bail out money too.


Jobe and 1180,
Have anyone of you worked on cars for a living? I do everyday. There is nothing more a piece of junk than bnissan, toyota and yes Honda too.
Try buying parts for them. Replacing a wheel bearing in a Chevy, about $100, in a Toyota $3oo to $400. Replacing an axle in a chevy, $150, a toyota or Honda anywhere from $500 to a $1000. Rebuilding a differential, Chevy, Ford or Dodge, about $750, Toyota, nissan or Honda, $1500 to $3000.
I can go on and on. Toyota and Nissan and honda tear up just as much as anyof them. They are harder to work on and thus the labor cost is higher and the parts are three times higher.

In all the years I've been in business, the worst fights I've had with customers has always been over Toyotas. It's always the price.

I routinely work on vehicles, Fords, Dodges and Chevys with over 200k miles. Last week I rebuilt the differential in a Ford F150 with 300,008 k miles on it. That's right.
Hondas and Toyotas and Nissans will be falling apart structurally before they hit that milestone.
Very true, Tomme.

I've gotten ahold of Chevys where everything the driver could reach with his hands and feet was either broken or showed signs of abuse.

I recently had to replace the transmission in a Chrysler PT Cruiser at 48K because the stamped sheetmetal the planetary set was made of exploded like a hand grenade at speed-The previous owner was from up north where it snows heavily and he'd spent a lotta time 'rocking' the vehicle while stuck in the snow (Drive to reverse rapidly at heavy throttle without letting the driveline stop in between direction changes.)
Yep. I have a friend who has a 1999 Chevy siverado. The truck has 308,000 miles on it and it runs drives and looks brand new. Regular oil changes and maintainance. Just goes to show what the proper care of a vehicle can do. And it was not a typo..308,000. He says he has never done anything to the transmission. Never even had to add fluid. Vortec engine.
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Originally posted by mad American:
I have always been a Ford person, but putting a transmission in a nearly new car will leave a bad taste in your mouth. I America car makers believed in their product they would offer a 100,000 mile warranty. And yes the car was and still is properly maintained. It was just a piece of 5hit.


Chevy gives a 100k powertrain warranty and dodge 70k.
I do believe that beaTS Honda's 36k warranty.
I drove Fords for years. And, always had trouble. I bought a 2000 Cavalier and drove it for 11 years. Little trouble except for a thermostat that went while still under warranty and the radiator at 100,000 miles. That's when I replaced the hoses, as well. With 175,000 miles I decided to trade. Figured it was either pay a repair bill or a down payment. The old Cavalier, manual shift, got 37 MPG new and 36 now.

After considering the Ford Fiesta and Focus, I decided on a Cruze, despite the federal support. The Fiesta and Focus are made in the United States, that is, Los Estados Unidos de Mexico. The Cruze gets 36 MPG and has an excellent safety rating. Ten airbags doesn't hurt, either. Wish the Eco model was out when I traded. It gets 42 MPG.

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