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I didn't realize it until now, but God don't like ugly messing with his angels.

"The mother of two sexual abuse victims warned Joe Henry Jones Jr. that in addition to a prison sentence, God will punish him for the crime

"'If you don't get it in this life, you will get it in the next life," the angry mother said to Jones in Lauderdale County Circuit Court on Thursday. "God don't like ugly messing with his angels.'"

I guess he has no chance of repentance?

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I didn't realize it until now, but God don't like ugly messing with his angels.

"The mother of two sexual abuse victims warned Joe Henry Jones Jr. that in addition to a prison sentence, God will punish him for the crime

"'If you don't get it in this life, you will get it in the next life," the angry mother said to Jones in Lauderdale County Circuit Court on Thursday. "God don't like ugly messing with his angels.'"

I guess he has no chance of repentance?
Hi Crusty,

Possibly you do not have children or grandchildren -- but to make fun of this lady's anguish is wrong. Put yourself in the place of this lady. She has two young girls who were sexually molested -- and most likely scarred for life -- by a person they considered a friend. She is angry; she is hurt; she feels the pain her daughters will suffer for the rest of their lives -- all because of one sick, twisted sexually perverted person.

And, on top of that -- the judge only gave the man fourteen months in prison -- with time off for the eight months he has been waiting for trial. Lets look at this: The man raped her two young daughters. He is found guilty. And because of this liberal judge -- the man will only spend SIX months in prison for this horrendous crime.

If you had two young daughters who were raped by a man -- and the judge only gave that man SIX months in prison -- how would you feel?

So, the woman called upon God to give him the punishment this liberal judge would not. Before Fish can jump in here with a twisted comment -- no, God cannot be called upon to mete out justice such as this. But, in her frustration, I can understand her asking for His help.

When the mother said, "God don't like ugly messing with his angels" -- she is right. God does not like anyone harming young children -- those still growing in their mother's womb -- or those growing within our families. Jesus loves children, as we witness in Luke 18:15-17, "And they were bringing even their babies to Him so that He would touch them, but when the disciples saw it, they began rebuking them. But Jesus called for them, saying, 'Permit the children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.'"

Does this person who committed this horrible crime against these young girls still have a chance to repent? Yes. Anyone, regardless of your sins, can repent and receive the free gift of salvation provided by Jesus Christ on the cross. Yet, even if this man repents of his sins and is saved, he will still one day have to stand before Jesus Christ and face what he has done. He will have salvation (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) -- but, would you want to stand before Jesus Christ at judgment (2 Corinthians 5:10) and admit to him face-to-face that you had molested and raped two young children?

Crusty, we should not be laughing at this lady; we should be feeling her pain -- and we should be praying for her and for her young daughters.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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If that happened to me, Bill, it would be further proof that God does not interfere in our daily lives. My daughters would not be deserving of that. No one's daughters are deserving of that.

Her daughters have been cheated and robbed of justice, and quite frankly, probably won't get it ever.

Your inconsistencies are showing again, Bill. Should it be an eye for an eye or turn the other cheek? You can just cut and paste your previous response to this question, I found it to be the usual nonsense, and I doubt you can add anything to the conversation.

And she didn't ask for God's help, she spoke for God, much like you do, Bill.

Have a blissed day.
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The Bible says that if anyone does harm to a child that it would be better for him to have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea...that what will happen to him on judgement day.

Hi Monet,

Yet, as you and I know, if this man repents, he can be forgiven by God (1 Corinthians 3:10-15). But, he will still have to face Jesus Christ at the Bema Seat Judgment; to acknowledge face-to-face with the Lord, what he has done here on earth (2 Corinthians 5:10).

Even Judas Iscariot could have been forgiven if he had repented. Yet, we know that he did not.

The only unforgivable sin is to die without receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Yes, Bill, if he truly feels sorry for what he did and repents and asks God's forgiveness, God will forgive him. (Not the kind of repentance that will get him off for good behavior only to go out and do it all over again)but TRUE repentance. But for people who commit crimes against innocent children, if they do not repent, will receive the worst judgement from God, I believe. At least I believe that is what that scripture refers to.
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Lets look at this: The man raped her two young daughters. He is found guilty. And because of this liberal judge -- the man will only spend SIX months in prison for this horrendous crime.

So, the woman called upon God to give him the punishment this liberal judge would not.


Bill, you really know not of what you write. He was not found guilty - he pled guilty without a trial. This judge is far from liberal in fact he is known as a prosecutor more than a judge. The deal was struck by the District Attorney because the case had lots of problems. The mother did not call on the God to do what the liberal judge would not. The mother agreed to the plea agreement and the term of punishment. This judge begrudingly honored the terms of the plea agreement that resulted in a conviction and a lifetime sentence as a child sex offender. If it had gone to trial, there would very likely have been a not guilty verdict because of problems with the evidence.

Will you stop at nothing in trying to paint ills those you call liberals who in fact are not liberal at all? And you do this in the name of God? I would like to see people who use God and his word have a little more credibility.
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The Bible says that if anyone does harm to a child that it would be better for him to have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea...that what will happen to him on judgement day.


So...

the prophet Elisha is drowning in eternity for siccing bears onto children whose crime was mocking him for his bald head?

god willing.



DF
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Lets look at this: The man raped her two young daughters. He is found guilty. And because of this liberal judge -- the man will only spend SIX months in prison for this horrendous crime.

So, the woman called upon God to give him the punishment this liberal judge would not.


Bill, you really know not of what you write. He was not found guilty - he pled guilty without a trial. This judge is far from liberal in fact he is known as a prosecutor more than a judge. The deal was struck by the District Attorney because the case had lots of problems. The mother did not call on the God to do what the liberal judge would not. The mother agreed to the plea agreement and the term of punishment. This judge begrudingly honored the terms of the plea agreement that resulted in a conviction and a lifetime sentence as a child sex offender. If it had gone to trial, there would very likely have been a not guilty verdict because of problems with the evidence.

Will you stop at nothing in trying to paint ills those you call liberals who in fact are not liberal at all? And you do this in the name of God? I would like to see people who use God and his word have a little more credibility.

Hi Bubba,

According to the article, the mother agreed to the plea bargain because she did not want to put her young children through more pain which would have happened in an open trial. She was protecting her daughters.

The man would not have accepted the plea bargain if he had been innocent. By accepting the plea bargain -- he was admitting his guilt.

The children suffered. The mother did not want them to suffer more.

The judge might not have been a liberal -- but, someone in that justice system surely was a bleeding heart liberal. That man should have been locked up and the key thrown away.

Just my thoughts.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill
Bill, only this man and these girls and God know if he is truly guilty. He is deemed to be guilty by his plea but it is not true that someone liberal in the justice system made this happen. We don't have many of thoses around these parts.
He was facing Class A felony sex offenses which upon conviction carry the possibility of life sentences. Because the case would have been very difficult to prove and he might go free guilty or not, the State offered a very attractive plea, to Class C felony sex offenses which carry a maximum of 10 years.
We would all like to think that in an ideal world only the guilty would be conviced and the innocent would always walk free. Unfortunately, our system, which I still find to be the best available, does not work that way. Guilty walk free sometimes and other times the innocent are imprisoned or killed.
We tend also to think that if we were wrongly accussed we would stand on principal and go to trial for exoneration. That becomes less realistic when one is staring down the barrel of a life sentence.
Standing on principal in a prison cell with a life sentence, eligible for parole in 30 years seems less desirable when one could insure oneself only 10 years with eligilibility for parole in 3 or 4 years or the ability to negotiate an attractive split as was the case here.
Because of sex offender registration and community notification, pleas to lesser charges with lighter sentences are very attractive in difficult cases where aquittal is likely because at least we will know where these people are and can better protect our kids, His angels.
I will be the first to admit that on this sentencing docket it was disturbing to know that this man will serve only 14 months for his sex crime against children and a former reserve deputy who sold pills to his bad news girlfriend who has taken down men for years, was sentenced to serve 7 years.
This is the reality in which we live and it is unfair to brand someone in the system as liberal when that is not the case. And rest assured, I am want to defend anyone who is truly conservative in this way but that too is a characteristic of a liberal - we will defend even you.
Peace to you,
Bubba

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