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no one can argue that what these nuts preach is consistent with the bible, right Bill?

 

Westboro Baptist Church
Thursday, April 28, 2011
NEWS RELEASE
THANK GOD FOR SENDING DOZENS OF TORNADOES TO 5 OF THE SOCALLED ‘BIBLE BELT’ STATES, KILLING NEARLY 200!

“Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the
wicked.” Jeremiah 30:23.  These Southern States claim to be full of God-fearing, Bible believing Southern Baptist Christians. In reality, they despise God, misuse and slander His  prophets, and seek to stop the Gospel from being preached. A  few  generations ago, these states possessed leaders who spoke the truth. Inspired by their pastors, who have become ashamed of the Gospel light, members of the SBC divorce & remarry at the highest rate of any demographic in Doomed america.  “Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 23:1-2

They refuse to warn their fellow man that their sins will take them to Hell and persecute the gentle sheep of WBC for telling them the truth. Recently, Mississippi falsely reported that they shut down WBC, now God punished them for what they wanted to do.  “Thou hast seen all their vengeance and all their imaginations against me. Thou hast heard their reproach, O LORD, and all their imaginations against me;” Lamentations 3:60-61
GOD HATES AMERICA!

 

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Originally Posted by interventor1212:

If you accept the Westburo bunch as indicative of Christians, may we accept Stalin, Mao, the two Kims and Pol Pot as indicative of atheists? 

 

Thank you.

 

The only people who can make their actions consistent with what the Bible teaches are those who love to twist the Bible's words every bit as much as Westboro Baptist members.

 

The title of this thread quite frankly infuriates me. I despise seeing it. The Spirit within me agrees; that's the Spirit of God, by the way.

BamaBunny, you've likely seen this Westboro bunch on the news & just didn't recall that was the name of the 'church'. They've made headlines a gazillion times for showing up at military funerals with their hate signs. Nobody agrees with their message, certainly not other Christians, certainly not God. Unless Unob is nuts himself & I truly hope he is not, Unob is very much aware of this.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

If you accept the Westburo bunch as indicative of Christians, may we accept Stalin, Mao, the two Kims and Pol Pot as indicative of atheists? 

did i say that? nope.

 

you guy go ahead and pile up on me if it makes you feel better. but their statements certainly are supported with the same biblical "truths" espoused by some on this forum.  they are certainly indicative of the mindset of many christians.  to deny that is to deny reality. 

 

i can promise you that i am as sickened by the evil displayed in this "news release" as any of you.  probably even more so because my blinders made of faith have been removed. all christians, at some level, harbor the same kind of hatred and intolerance exhibited by the westborro people.  unless you reject the concept of hell altogether, you gleefully support eternal ****ation as just punishment for people like me who think too much. you look forward to the end of the earth (coming this month, may 22nd, by the way).  you use your religious beleifs to deny basic rights of women and homosexuals and so much more.

 

the difference between many of you and westborro is only a matter of degree. 

 

sayeth the lord: 

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19).

Originally Posted by BamaBunny:

Who wrote" Thank God for sending dozens of tornado's to 5 of the socalled "Bible Belt states, killing nearly 200? Westboro Baptist Church or you? I just read the tread and the reply and im very confused if a leader of a church flock is saying such a thing

i left out the link to their website purposefully so as no not give them any more attention than necessary but since i am being accused of making this up, here is the original.  please take your blood pressure medicine before clicking.

 

http://www.godhates***s.com/fliers/index.html

Hi all,

 

In my personal opinion, when dear old Uno, our FISHY Friend, posted this discussion -- he put himself directly in bed with Fred Phelps and all the haters of the world.  I see no difference between the person who posted this initial post -- and Fred Phelps.   God help them both!

 

God is not so blind that He does not see the darkness in both.

 

And, yet, has anyone else noticed that Uno's avatar is wearing a cross?  So, in that sense, Uno is wearing a cross?  Could the Holy Spirit be working in the darkness of his heart -- even when he does not know it?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by BamaBunny:

My friend, God has final judgment. EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord! Everyone will have to answer for their sins. Including the ones who are suvivors of this storm, like you and me.

baaaaa!

Sorry to disappoint but I will not bow to your imaginary friend.

"no one can argue that what these nuts preach is consistent with the bible"

I beg your pardon, but yes, one CAN argue that what these nuts teach is NOT consistent with the Bible. Once again, anyone can take verses out of context to twist what the Bible actually says, but unless you have read and know the entire book, IN CONTEXT, you cannot make these claims.

 

"all christians, at some level, harbor the same kind of hatred and intolerance exhibited by the westborro people."

That is a bald faced lie. You know NOTHING about what is in the heart of anyone but yourself, if THAT. You seem to like Veep quite well. Are you saying SHE harbors that kind of hatred and intolerance? No, she doesn't, and neither do I. Neither do many many Christians. All that statement proves is that YOU harbor hatred and intolerance for Christians.

 

"unless you reject the concept of hell altogether, you gleefully support eternal ****ation as just punishment for people like me who think too much. you look forward to the end of the earth (coming this month, may 22nd, by the way).  you use your religious beleifs to deny basic rights of women and homosexuals and so much more."

 

Once again, you are assuming you know the hearts and minds of others. I don't know ANY Christian who is "gleeful" about the idea of anyone going to hell. I don't know any who is looking forward to the end of the earth. As a matter of fact, most Christians I know are enjoying life far too much to want to see it end, in spite of the fact that we know Heaven will be even better.

 

And how is it that half of Christians want to deny OURSELVES basic rights? At least half of us ARE women you know. And every time Peter Rielly goes on one of his rants, you see many many of us jumping to the defense of homosexuals, so you're wrong on that too.

 

This is just another of your lame attempts to paint all Christians in a bad light. Why ARE you so obsessed? And why is it that you are so full of hate for us?

Originally Posted by HoldenMyOwn:
Originally Posted by O No!:

Once again, anyone can take verses out of context to twist what the Bible actually says, but unless you have read and know the entire book, IN CONTEXT, you cannot make these claims.?

The hatred promoted in the bible is not acceptable in ANY context.

 

I'm sorry, but I have read the entire Bible many times. The overwhelming message is one of love. How many times have YOU read the Bible? And if you have, what are your reading comprehension skills?

 

Originally Posted by O No!:

I'm sorry, but I have read the entire Bible many times. The overwhelming message is one of love. How many times have YOU read the Bible? And if you have, what are your reading comprehension skills?

 

I have read it many times. If you are trying to imply that the bible doesn't promote killing people who disagree with your dogma, then YOU are the one with reading comprehension issues. Shall I point a few out?

Context, Holden, context. You can't ake things from the old testament out of context. You must remember that when Christ died for our sins, everything changed. Because of His love, he suffered terribly. And because of His love, we are forgiven. He Himself said that LOVE was the greatest thing, and that our first duty is to love God, and our second duty was to love each other. And when you get right down to it, THAT is what it is all about.

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

 

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

 

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

 

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

 

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

 

 "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked.  Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."  (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

 


ok In what context is any of this acceptable?

Originally Posted by O No!:

Context, Holden, context. You can't ake things from the old testament out of context. You must remember that when Christ died for our sins, everything changed. Because of His love, he suffered terribly. And because of His love, we are forgiven. He Himself said that LOVE was the greatest thing, and that our first duty is to love God, and our second duty was to love each other. And when you get right down to it, THAT is what it is all about.

 

 

The OT god & the NT god/jesus is the SAME god. You do understand that... right?

Let me draw you an analogy. Parents love their child. Their child keeps running out into the street. Because the child runs into the street, he gets punished so he will learn to stay in the yard where he will be safe.

 

The child just doesn't seem to learn his lesson though, so eventually the parents realize something else must be done. They put up a fence. Now the child can't run into the street anymore. No running into the street=no more punishment.

 

WE are the child, God is the parents, Jesus is the fence.

 

Same God, different circumstances. Got it?

Originally Posted by O No!:

Let me draw you an analogy. Parents love their child. Their child keeps running out into the street. Because the child runs into the street, he gets punished so he will learn to stay in the yard where he will be safe.

 

The child just doesn't seem to learn his lesson though, so eventually the parents realize something else must be done. They put up a fence. Now the child can't run into the street anymore. No running into the street=no more punishment.

 

WE are the child, God is the parents, Jesus is the fence.

 

Same God, different circumstances. Got it?

What if said child climbs the fence?

Originally Posted by O No!:

That is a good question, Semi. I suppose the child that climbs the fence is akin to those who reject Jesus - in other words, atheists. The good news is that until they are killed in traffic, they can always climb back over the fence and into the yard.

I love you, my friend, but I disagree. Said child rejected said parents authority, & climbed the fence simply to see if he/she could, knowing he/she would probably be punished. That doesn't make that child an Atheist.

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by O No!:

That is a good question, Semi. I suppose the child that climbs the fence is akin to those who reject Jesus - in other words, atheists. The good news is that until they are killed in traffic, they can always climb back over the fence and into the yard.

I love you, my friend, but I disagree. Said child rejected said parents authority, & climbed the fence simply to see if he/she could, knowing he/she would probably be punished. That doesn't make that child an Atheist.


No Semi, I guess it DOESN'T necessarily make the child an atheist. It makes that child rebellious just as so many of the Jews in the old Testament were rebellious. But THAT is why God sent us Jesus - the fence.

 

The problem with the child climbing the fence is that he is in danger. Just like without Jesus, we are in danger. The parents want him to be safely in the yard, just as God wants us to be safely in the arms of Jesus, because just like the parents love their child, God loves us.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

no one can argue that what these nuts preach is consistent with the bible, right Bill?

 

Westboro Baptist Church
Thursday, April 28, 2011
NEWS RELEASE
THANK GOD FOR SENDING DOZENS OF TORNADOES TO 5 OF THE SOCALLED ‘BIBLE BELT’ STATES, KILLING NEARLY 200!

“Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the
wicked.” Jeremiah 30:23.  These Southern States claim to be full of God-fearing, Bible believing Southern Baptist Christians. In reality, they despise God, misuse and slander His  prophets, and seek to stop the Gospel from being preached. A  few  generations ago, these states possessed leaders who spoke the truth. Inspired by their pastors, who have become ashamed of the Gospel light, members of the SBC divorce & remarry at the highest rate of any demographic in Doomed america.  “Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 23:1-2

They refuse to warn their fellow man that their sins will take them to Hell and persecute the gentle sheep of WBC for telling them the truth. Recently, Mississippi falsely reported that they shut down WBC, now God punished them for what they wanted to do.  “Thou hast seen all their vengeance and all their imaginations against me. Thou hast heard their reproach, O LORD, and all their imaginations against me;” Lamentations 3:60-61
GOD HATES AMERICA!

 

Unobt,

Do you really consider the WBC group to be Christians?

…..or are you just continuing as the liar you have proven yourself to be?

Unobta you are living proof todays God is not this vindictive

no... look close.. it's deep.fat.. a period in between.. i've been told it's really buffalo, and if true it juts makes me ache we don't have the option to /ignore on this new, better, stronger, faster, uglier, lamer format.

 

ps.. i was kidding about the better, stronger, faster part.

 

as..

RE: the topic title... god hates figs?

can't say as i blame him. they're nasty.

 

Originally Posted by O No!:

That is a good question, Semi. I suppose the child that climbs the fence is akin to those who reject Jesus - in other words, atheists. The good news is that until they are killed in traffic, they can always climb back over the fence and into the yard.

Ah...Eruh....What if the child is really, really good at playing in traffic?

 

 

/shrug

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