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A direct quote from the book.

"Deals with spouses require disclosure, but not children and friends."

And you think "republican voters already know"?

Care to explain how you justify the Trump Administration? A cabinet full of Trump's children and friends?

Why is it so hard to see that not one person in D.C. is working for Americans? Trump, Pelosi, nor McConnell care one bit about America.

Robot Unicorn posted:

A direct quote from the book.

"Deals with spouses require disclosure, but not children and friends."

And you think "republican voters already know"?

Care to explain how you justify the Trump Administration? A cabinet full of Trump's children and friends?

Why is it so hard to see that not one person in D.C. is working for Americans? Trump, Pelosi, nor McConnell care one bit about America.

What do you think we should do about all this Rob?

Starrett posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:

A direct quote from the book.

"Deals with spouses require disclosure, but not children and friends."

And you think "republican voters already know"?

Care to explain how you justify the Trump Administration? A cabinet full of Trump's children and friends?

Why is it so hard to see that not one person in D.C. is working for Americans? Trump, Pelosi, nor McConnell care one bit about America.

What do you think we should do about all this Rob?

Stop thinking about Political Parties and start thinking about being Americans.  How many times have you seen someone on these forums say "That will make the liberals so mad." or "Republicans will hate that." America is pretty much half Democrats and half Republicans. You can't love America and hate half the people in it.

Jutu posted:

The left is doing a great job at hating....hate is ALL the anti-American ******* left has preached since Trump ran and won...and  I have to admit...in the last few years I have come to despise them as much or more than their hatred of Conservatives.

Don't let your hate blind you to the fact that the Democrats are treating Trump exactly like the Republicans treated Clinton. Bill Clinton beat incumbent Bush 1 and Republicans never got over it. That's why you've seen 25+ years of Republicans after the Clintons.

Robot Unicorn posted:
Jutu posted:

The left is doing a great job at hating....hate is ALL the anti-American ******* left has preached since Trump ran and won...and  I have to admit...in the last few years I have come to despise them as much or more than their hatred of Conservatives.

Don't let your hate blind you to the fact that the Democrats are treating Trump exactly like the Republicans treated Clinton. Bill Clinton beat incumbent Bush 1 and Republicans never got over it. That's why you've seen 25+ years of Republicans after the Clintons.

You can not be serious! No dem has ever been treated the way Trump has been treated by the left...starting the day he won!! Not even Bush was as ill treated and the left was pretty rabid about him too. Bill Clinton was treated no where near as bad as Trump has been....but keep spreading the manure...that's all you dems can do. No one is "after" the Clintons. They are despised but only because they are corrupt...despicable people.

Jutu posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
Jutu posted:

The left is doing a great job at hating....hate is ALL the anti-American ******* left has preached since Trump ran and won...and  I have to admit...in the last few years I have come to despise them as much or more than their hatred of Conservatives.

Don't let your hate blind you to the fact that the Democrats are treating Trump exactly like the Republicans treated Clinton. Bill Clinton beat incumbent Bush 1 and Republicans never got over it. That's why you've seen 25+ years of Republicans after the Clintons.

You can not be serious! No dem has ever been treated the way Trump has been treated by the left...starting the day he won!! Not even Bush was as ill treated and the left was pretty rabid about him too. Bill Clinton was treated no where near as bad as Trump has been....but keep spreading the manure...that's all you dems can do. No one is "after" the Clintons. They are despised but only because they are corrupt...despicable people.

  America can't prosper with one half of the country hating the other half. I don't think you understand that the middle 2% of Republican and Democrats are the only voters that matter. 98% of both parties are going to vote the straight party ticket. The middle 2% of each party, the moderates, decide the outcome.
Judging by your post, you're in the 98%.

A very close friend once told me "calmer heads always prevail". Rabid hatred of Democrats or Republicans only perpetuates the same old party politics.

I suppose you think the Republicans are the greatest party. Ask yourself this: If Republicans are so great, why can't they seem to catch the Clintons? You think they want to convict them? or maybe just make sure you fall in line and don't vote for them?

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Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

 

Jutu posted:

Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

That's so funny. Americans made more money while Clinton was POTUS than any other time in their lives.

As I've stated, rabid hatred serves no purpose except to divide America. If you can't see that, you are part of the problem.

Like I said before RU, everything you've been saying is an attempt to
talk Conservatives into joining you and your demonic libs. Why would
anyone pickup a snake in the first place.
 
If there's any way I can be your biggest problem I'm there, that's the
only reason America isn't one world property yet, and I'll fight you
and all your corrupt hateful anti Americans if it takes my cold dead
clinched fist.
Robot Unicorn posted:

 

Jutu posted:

Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

That's so funny. Americans made more money while Clinton was POTUS than any other time in their lives.

As I've stated, rabid hatred serves no purpose except to divide America. If you can't see that, you are part of the problem.

I don't know where you get your stats about Clinton's economy but they are way off. Rabid hatred is ALL you libs have and decent people are getting quite sick of it and you...and you have set out to divide the country since the racist Obamas set foot in the WH. I see your "time out" didn't improve you....so bye.

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Just ONE example of the left's hatred...Ilhan Omar is openly anti-Semitic but gets a pass by the hypocritical left and none of them has ever called for her removal....and then they LIED and twisted Trump's words claiming he told her and others to "go back to where they came from" without bothering to put the rest of his statement..."fix it and then come back and show us how it's done" into their "reporting".

 

A frightening attack at a Hanukkah celebration in the home of a rabbi in a suburb north of New York City on Saturday night placed the entire New York region on edge and had public officials vowing to stop the violence.

The assault in Monsey, N.Y. -- by a machete-wielding suspect who drove away but whom authorities believe was the man they apprehended later -- continued a string of incidents in recent weeks that have included beatings of Jewish people on the streets of New York City and a massacre at a kosher grocery store in nearby Jersey City, N.J.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new...ral-injuries-reports

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Jutu posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:

 

Jutu posted:

Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

That's so funny. Americans made more money while Clinton was POTUS than any other time in their lives.

As I've stated, rabid hatred serves no purpose except to divide America. If you can't see that, you are part of the problem.

I don't know where you get your stats about Clinton's economy but they are way off. Rabid hatred is ALL you libs have and decent people are getting quite sick of it and you...and you have set out to divide the country since the racist Obamas set foot in the WH. I see your "time out" didn't improve you....so bye.

Your rabid hatred only harms you.

Robot Unicorn posted:
Jutu posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:

 

Jutu posted:

Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

That's so funny. Americans made more money while Clinton was POTUS than any other time in their lives.

As I've stated, rabid hatred serves no purpose except to divide America. If you can't see that, you are part of the problem.

I don't know where you get your stats about Clinton's economy but they are way off. Rabid hatred is ALL you libs have and decent people are getting quite sick of it and you...and you have set out to divide the country since the racist Obamas set foot in the WH. I see your "time out" didn't improve you....so bye.

Your rabid hatred only harms you.

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What harms me only makes me stronger..!!

 

on Clinton,,, two big things, he made false promises during his campaign.  and then did what would get any manager fired, he dipped in the company payroll.  Trump has tried to keep his promises.

However the point of original post is  many in congress are corrupt.  They feed taxpayer money to family and friends.  Trump was voted in to clean the swamp. Sadly he has little support. The corrupt out weigh the good.  

It is up to us the voters to help.  2020 is an opportunity for us to get many of the corrupt congress out.  It will take both sides of the political voters to do it.  The independent voters can make the difference.  vote the incumbent out in the primaries, and you may still vote your party if you choose in the election. 

Jack Hammer posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
Jutu posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:

 

Jutu posted:

Catch the Clintons? You make no sense. No one ever had to make me fall in line and not vote for a Clinton! I changed parties when Bill Clinton and Albert Gore ran.  As I said...no one had to convince me not to vote for the corrupt disgusting Clintons....and nothing could ever persuade me to vote for a Dem again.

That's so funny. Americans made more money while Clinton was POTUS than any other time in their lives.

As I've stated, rabid hatred serves no purpose except to divide America. If you can't see that, you are part of the problem.

I don't know where you get your stats about Clinton's economy but they are way off. Rabid hatred is ALL you libs have and decent people are getting quite sick of it and you...and you have set out to divide the country since the racist Obamas set foot in the WH. I see your "time out" didn't improve you....so bye.

Your rabid hatred only harms you.

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What harms me only makes me stronger..!!

 

I don't think shooting yourself in the foot counts.

1130 posted:

on Clinton,,, two big things, he made false promises during his campaign.  and then did what would get any manager fired, he dipped in the company payroll.  Trump has tried to keep his promises.

However the point of original post is  many in congress are corrupt.  They feed taxpayer money to family and friends.  Trump was voted in to clean the swamp. Sadly he has little support. The corrupt out weigh the good.  

It is up to us the voters to help.  2020 is an opportunity for us to get many of the corrupt congress out.  It will take both sides of the political voters to do it.  The independent voters can make the difference.  vote the incumbent out in the primaries, and you may still vote your party if you choose in the election. 

You mean false promises like "Mexico will pay for the wall" or "I'll be too busy working for you to be playing golf"?
Trump/Republican tax cuts have added over a $1Trillion to America deficit. Remember when Republicans shut down the government over increasing America's debt? Remember Republicans whining about Obama taking too many vacations? How can Republicans rail about Democrats and then turn around and do the exact same things?
Blindly following any political party is not good for America.

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can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

Jack Hammer posted:
1130,,,,,,,,,,,, Song and dance, don't be caught up in the unknown
sources and embellished BS by way of oldsalt and crash.
 
Haters can't be a little negative much less truthful.

The person who uses known fake news sites to promote Right Extremists/ White Supremacists, on these forums, isn't allowed to question sources.  You've already proved you couldn't find the truth with a roadmap.

1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

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Robot Unicorn posted:
1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

The tax claim is a big fat lie, most Americans did get a tax cut.  My friend did the math and almost everyone making less than 500 k got a tax cut.  Heck even the liberal NY Times agrees!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0.../income-tax-cut.html

HIFLYER2 posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

The tax claim is a big fat lie, most Americans did get a tax cut.  My friend did the math and almost everyone making less than 500 k got a tax cut.  Heck even the liberal NY Times agrees!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0.../income-tax-cut.html

Ok, you got me... most got a $780 tax break over the year, but less in their refund than last year. Basically Trump/Republicans shifted the payout. The top 20% got 60% of the benefits of the Tax cuts. The top 1% got 17% of the benefit. Corporations got permanent tax breaks. The 'tax cuts' expire for working Americans in 2025.

To put it in simple terms. The average American got a 0.4% tax break. (from 9.6% down to 9.2%).

Corporations got a little break too, cut in half. (from 23% down to 12%). A $1trillion permanent corporate tax cut.  Instead of working Americans seeing the 'windfall', wages have remained the same. Corporations used the money to buy back their own stocks and drive the price up.

Ignorant D'rat communist anti Americans can do what they do to their
Post toasties but the truth they hate most is the flat out fact the morons
haven't had it so good since the 80's. Because since the 80's nothing was
done when given a chance or the Alinsky liberal Dem's have been paid
big time buck's to destroy the only house they have and the freedom's 
their families died to keep them free.   
 
The deranged flakes haven't an argument, only false leaders they worship. 
Robot Unicorn posted:
HIFLYER2 posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

The tax claim is a big fat lie, most Americans did get a tax cut.  My friend did the math and almost everyone making less than 500 k got a tax cut.  Heck even the liberal NY Times agrees!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0.../income-tax-cut.html

Ok, you got me... most got a $780 tax break over the year, but less in their refund than last year. Basically Trump/Republicans shifted the payout. The top 20% got 60% of the benefits of the Tax cuts. The top 1% got 17% of the benefit. Corporations got permanent tax breaks. The 'tax cuts' expire for working Americans in 2025.

To put it in simple terms. The average American got a 0.4% tax break. (from 9.6% down to 9.2%).

Corporations got a little break too, cut in half. (from 23% down to 12%). A $1trillion permanent corporate tax cut.  Instead of working Americans seeing the 'windfall', wages have remained the same. Corporations used the money to buy back their own stocks and drive the price up.

I’m sorry you really are a idiot! A tax break is a tax break, the amount you get at the end of the year is related to the amount you paid minus withholdings and deductions.  So for your info you look at the amount you paid not the amount you received back!  I cannot believe you are on here lecturing about financial items when you do not grasp this concept!  BTW a big refund means one of two things you paid too much and gave the government a interest free loan or you paid less taxes than the credits you get and over 40% of Americans fall in this category.  

Approximately 76.4 million or 44.4% of Americans won't pay any federal income tax in 2018, up from 72.6 million people or 43.2% in 2016 before President Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, according to estimates from the Tax Policy Center, a nonprofit joint venture by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution, which are ...Feb 26, 2019
 
 

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HIFLYER2 posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
HIFLYER2 posted:
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1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

The tax claim is a big fat lie, most Americans did get a tax cut.  My friend did the math and almost everyone making less than 500 k got a tax cut.  Heck even the liberal NY Times agrees!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0.../income-tax-cut.html

Ok, you got me... most got a $780 tax break over the year, but less in their refund than last year. Basically Trump/Republicans shifted the payout. The top 20% got 60% of the benefits of the Tax cuts. The top 1% got 17% of the benefit. Corporations got permanent tax breaks. The 'tax cuts' expire for working Americans in 2025.

To put it in simple terms. The average American got a 0.4% tax break. (from 9.6% down to 9.2%).

Corporations got a little break too, cut in half. (from 23% down to 12%). A $1trillion permanent corporate tax cut.  Instead of working Americans seeing the 'windfall', wages have remained the same. Corporations used the money to buy back their own stocks and drive the price up.

I’m sorry you really are a idiot! A tax break is a tax break, the amount you get at the end of the year is related to the amount you paid minus withholdings and deductions.  So for your info you look at the amount you paid not the amount you received back!  I cannot believe you are on here lecturing about financial items when you do not grasp this concept!  BTW a big refund means one of two things you paid too much and gave the government a interest free loan or you paid less taxes than the credits you get and over 40% of Americans fall in this category.  

Approximately 76.4 million or 44.4% of Americans won't pay any federal income tax in 2018, up from 72.6 million people or 43.2% in 2016 before President Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, according to estimates from the Tax Policy Center, a nonprofit joint venture by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution, which are ...Feb 26, 2019
 
 

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Actor and comedian Bill Murray praised Republican tax reform as a “fantastic thing” for business and criticized identity politics in a CNBC interview aired Friday.

“The change in the tax law is a great thing for the corporations, it’s a fantastic thing,” Mr. Murray, 67, said during a sit-down interview with CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

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HIFLYER2 posted:
Robot Unicorn posted:
HIFLYER2 posted:
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1130 posted:

can't take anything at face value.   Mexico paying,,,how much was gained in booting Nafta?  playing golf, he works more than any past president.  tax cuts,, we are over taxed, over regulated. government reaches to much into private lives and steps all over our "rights".  How much of debt increase is interest? illegals?  congress ripoff?  money (which congress friends and family get kick backs) to other countries.    I don't trust republican congress any more than democrat congress, just a lesser of the two evils.    

Then throw in the number of years senators have been there and telling us it is Trump's fault?   or that democrats are stepping on most amendments and trying to move us to socialism and a world government.

Ok. Lets address each of your misconceptions in turn.

Trump's new NAFTA is projected increase production costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The new laws will also hasten the replacement of workers by machines to do their jobs.
The Trump/Republican tax cuts mean you pay more taxes and corporations pay less. The facts are already in on that one.
Republicans always cost voters more money. They hand money out to corporations like AT&T. AT&T gained roughly $3billion because of the Trump/Republican tax cuts. They promised it would add many more 'hard hat' jobs paying between 70k and 80k a year. The TRUTH, AT&T has cut over 23,000 jobs since the tax cuts.
Republicans scream about helping the middle class, but have NEVER done it.

Lesser of two evils would be the party that has to clean up the mess left by Republicans EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they're elected.

As far as 'a world government', You can't have a sane discussion over a conspiracy theory.

The tax claim is a big fat lie, most Americans did get a tax cut.  My friend did the math and almost everyone making less than 500 k got a tax cut.  Heck even the liberal NY Times agrees!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0.../income-tax-cut.html

Ok, you got me... most got a $780 tax break over the year, but less in their refund than last year. Basically Trump/Republicans shifted the payout. The top 20% got 60% of the benefits of the Tax cuts. The top 1% got 17% of the benefit. Corporations got permanent tax breaks. The 'tax cuts' expire for working Americans in 2025.

To put it in simple terms. The average American got a 0.4% tax break. (from 9.6% down to 9.2%).

Corporations got a little break too, cut in half. (from 23% down to 12%). A $1trillion permanent corporate tax cut.  Instead of working Americans seeing the 'windfall', wages have remained the same. Corporations used the money to buy back their own stocks and drive the price up.

I’m sorry you really are a idiot! A tax break is a tax break, the amount you get at the end of the year is related to the amount you paid minus withholdings and deductions.  So for your info you look at the amount you paid not the amount you received back!  I cannot believe you are on here lecturing about financial items when you do not grasp this concept!  BTW a big refund means one of two things you paid too much and gave the government a interest free loan or you paid less taxes than the credits you get and over 40% of Americans fall in this category.  

Approximately 76.4 million or 44.4% of Americans won't pay any federal income tax in 2018, up from 72.6 million people or 43.2% in 2016 before President Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, according to estimates from the Tax Policy Center, a nonprofit joint venture by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution, which are ...Feb 26, 2019
 
 

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