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I question my COC preacher relative about the church's belief of it only going to heaven. After a short heated disagreement, I asked him if his church regularly sent money/missionaries to foreign countries to save souls, and he said yes of course they did. I then asked him why don't they just stay here(USA,Alabama,Florence) and save the Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Jews.....etc)?
He didn't have an answer.

Any statements from the COC clergy here on this subject?
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I had a group of teens (COC) come to my house one time raising money to go on a mission trip to the CAYMAN ISLANDS. I have been there. They know about god. But the beaches are beautiful.

That's better than yucky old Haiti. How about this one. A girl (COC) wanted music at her wedding. She "borrowed" a Baptist church in Tuscumbia so she could have the music, her preacher performed the ceremony at the Baptist Church, and all her family and friends trooped in big as life. No problems with Baptists when they want something. Is that hypocrisy or what!
Just because a congregation sends people to other countries to spread the gospel doesn't mean they aren't also trying to win souls here. It's just more obvious when there are expenses and travel involved. Every individual Christian is to be speaking to others about God and His word, whether it's family members, co-workers, a waitress at a restaurant, the pest control man who comes to your home, etc. etc. No, I'm not "clergy" but I thought I would answer anyway.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?


I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin
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I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time.

Deal, and next time YOU can choose where we need, (or called) to go. How do you feel about London?
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Originally posted by The Raven:
I question my COC preacher relative about the church's belief of it only going to heaven. After a short heated disagreement, I asked him if his church regularly sent money/missionaries to foreign countries to save souls, and he said yes of course they did. I then asked him why don't they just stay here(USA,Alabama,Florence) and save the Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Jews.....etc)?
He didn't have an answer.

Any statements from the COC clergy here on this subject?


Well done, I'm going to remember that one!

That was the wake up call for me when I was in CoC as a kid. I found out one of my friends was a Baptist and I felt like just told me he had cancer or something. That's when I first started to suspect something was wrong with that atmosphere.

As for mission trips, that's another peeve of mine. How much charitable work will a group of high schoolers do in the Cayman Islands? I'll contribute to a trip where people are helped and an area is left better than it was found, but I'm not donating to a church/senior vacation.

A group of high school kids from my church are going to Hati this year, I'm debating going with them. Not sure if my wife will be cool with it.
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Originally posted by Hybrid:
Please Raven don't bring up such questions. As long as they're going far, far, far away to do it we'll be better off.
Sorry Hybrid, but this is not a statement about foreign missions! I'm just making a statement about why go anywhere in the world or just stay here and convert all the rest of churches not coc. If one could do that from the coc's, think of how many jewels in their crown would be.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?


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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin


Hey! I wanna go!! Cool
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by The Raven:
I question my COC preacher relative about the church's belief of it only going to heaven.


What was his answer about the COC being the only ones going to heaven?


Yeah, I think the Jehovah's would have a bone to pick with 'em on that one as well. 144,000 and all....
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?


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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin


Hey! I wanna go!! Cool


Great! You know I wouldn't go on a mission trip without you Semi. Smiler

We can spread the word of disbelief. LOL
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?


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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin


Hey! I wanna go!! Cool


Roll Eyes uhhh...they are not going.
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Originally posted by buffalo:
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?


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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin


Hey! I wanna go!! Cool


Roll Eyes uhhh...they are not going.


Buffy,

Are you just mad because we didn't ask you to go? You know you are welcome to come along. You just can't start running around getting into trouble with the natives and you can't be hogging all the covers.

And, none of that "everybody is going to hell" stuff either. Smiler
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Raven:
I question my COC preacher relative about the church's belief of it only going to heaven.


What was his answer about the COC being the only ones going to heaven?[/QUOTE He didn't have an answer specifically for that, but gave me those one verse reasons- the singing in church, once a week communion.....etc...which is says this but it is not the only ones in the bible regarding these subjects.
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
Buffy,
Are you just mad because we didn't ask you to go? You know you are welcome to come along. You just can't start running around getting into trouble with the natives and you can't be hogging all the covers.

And, none of that "everybody is going to hell" stuff either. Smiler


I'm going to throw a tantrum! If he goes, I ain't going! Mad Big Grin
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
OK, it's cold and wet. I think I need to go to Hawaii and spread the word of atheism. (Jank, my tan is fading) This could take me a while, at least two weeks to start with. I guess I need to start collecting money. Who's up for tossing in a few bucks?
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Originally posted by Jankinonya:
I'll make the sacrifice and go with you. Maybe we can sell some raffle tickets for something we get donated...and if the weather clears up in the next couple of weeks we could do a car wash. We will have the money in no time. Big Grin


Hey! I wanna go!! Cool

You know after our "mission" work in Hawaii we have to go to London too. I guess we need to make a list of all the places where we feel "called" to visit and, uh, spread the word.

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