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The liberal hysteria over Rush Limbaugh’s comments about Sandra Fluke continue in earnest while those of us on the right have resumed our fight to rid the White House and the Senate of the progressives who seek to destroy our great nation. It has gotten so ridiculous that the lead femi-****, Gloria Steinem has called for prosecutors in Florida to have Rush charged and arrested for his exercise of free speech. Shocking a liberal would be calling for this, huh? I have generally been ignoring this ridiculousness from the left as it seems to be a daily occurrence but I had to stop and pay attention for a moment when I read that Jane Fonda of all people has joined forces with Miz Steinem in calling for Rush to be fired. (By the way, Rush doesn’t work for anybody so there isn’t anybody to fire him but it isn’t unusual for liberals to have no idea what they are talking about.)

 

In an op-ed for the CNN website, both Steinem and Fonda along with a third radical leftist, Robin Morgan compared Rush to **** propagandist Josef Goebbels. That’s rich coming from Jan Fonda, aka Hanoi Jane who should have been charged and convicted of Treason during the Vietnam War. A more loathsome person you would be hard pressed to find.

 

 

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I was pretty disgusted by their op-ed when I read it on CNN's website. Don't get me wrong; Limbaugh is a vile misogynist, and I'm totally fine with people who were outraged by his remarks choosing to boycott the companies that support him, but the desire to use the government to force his silence is something different altogether, and it's an impulse that both comes from and would take us to a deeply illiberal place.

I agree with TheMeInTeam. I'd love to see the creep yanked off the air. He may not work for anyone, but the stations who carry his c r a p could in effect, "fire" him.

 

But the government is here to PROTECT free speech and has no business getting into this. Let the ones who put him on the air deal with it. THEY have a right to not air anything they choose not to air.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

LOL!! 

 

The liberal hysteria over Rush Limbaugh’s comments about Sandra Fluke continue in earnest while those of us on the right have resumed our fight to rid the White House and the Senate of the progressives who seek to destroy our great nation.

 

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bahahahahahahahahahaha!

Sometimes you feel like "words just fail". No matter what you say about this show of "fake outrage" by all the liberal drama queens, the words just aren't enough. Two faced hypocrites doesn't even begin to describe them, and then fonda crawls out from under her rock to run her mouth! And this is what they think people want running this country? 

Really willie? I mean really? That's your response? They have to have run for public office before their actions or comments should be condemned? They are highly public people. Since I have never kept up with rush, I don't know of any office he ever tried for. Not saying he hasn't, just that I don't know. He's certainly not my spokesman, but on that note, I posted a link on another thread showing that maher is indeed as much a spokesman for the left as you claim rush is for the right. But heck, everyone knows that anyway. I could claim michael moore is a spokesman for the left too because in the past he's been called, by the left, their "answer" to rush limbaugh. What a world.

When the big nosed Maher and Micheal Moore donate $Millions to the SuperPac, they are effectiviely becoming politcal players and should be treated as such.  Limbaugh was not PC in calling this young lady out, but in essence what he said was correct.  She is a tool for the Liberal Progressive movement and as such became a traget for the wrath to be aimed against her.  Hanoi Jane is one of the most despciable people of our time.  What she did should not be forgiven nor tolerated.  Men were beaten and some probably killed by her actions, while she posed provovactively before the cameras with north Vietnamese soldiers and their weapons.  If there was ever a traitor to this country, she is a perfect example of one, and should have been ostracized for her actions.  However, the people of the same mentality have embraced her and her actions and find nothing wrong with her.  Those people have a special place in hell reserved for them.

surely you people see the difference in a person such as jane fonda or bill maher ... and limbaugh...

i've never seen jane or bill put out front of the democratic party...

i have seen limbaugh praised as a leader in republican politics...

if you can't see a difference in the two... you're a rt. wingnut... it's that simple!

Originally Posted by willie:

surely you people see the difference in a person such as jane fonda or bill maher ... and limbaugh...

i've never seen jane or bill put out front of the democratic party...

i have seen limbaugh praised as a leader in republican politics...

if you can't see a difference in the two... you're a rt. wingnut... it's that simple!

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I saw American soldiers try to send a massages to their families just to

let them know they were still Alive.

I saw the hanoi harlot turn them over, some were beat to death and others

were serverley tortured. All because they worried about their families.

She should be exiled to viet nam. Along with sissy coffee and willie nilly.

Well of course I see the difference willie, they're leftie nuts and limbaugh is a republican.  And if you haven't seen maher and fonda put out front of the democritic party you just haven't been looking. I give it to you that fonda has been a quiet for a long time. Yes, that old horse has been mostly out to pasture the last few years, but still doing what demmies do best, being sneaky about her double standard crap. That "said", there is no way anyone could claim maher hasn't been out front running his mouth and being most "beloved" by the demmies.

 

BTW, blast from the past. I wonder if that little thing is settled with maher and his ex-girlfriend. She's suing him for something like 9 mil because he roughed her up, made racial slurs to her, called her names and threatened to "hit her with a hammer" if she was ever unfaithful to him. Funny as all get out how the lefties just look the other way and haven't called for his banishment from the airwaves. Oh I know, that's a "he said she said" situation and rush made his statements in public. That might work for me IF I hadn't heard all the names maher has called other women in public. I repeat, maybe rush should have called fluke a t*** and a c***. There would have been no backlash because those are acceptable names to call women according to the democrits.

Senior Coffe:

 

"As a fan of Jane Fonda, I believe she was justified in her actions, and that what she did was point out the perversity of the actions of the U.S. Military in Vietnam. It too was an illegal war just as those since. We should be ashamed of what has been done around the globe in the name of America."

 

Fonda is, at best, a mediocre actress, relying upon her father's re*p*u*t*a*tion. (Blasted filter even censors Spanish).  P*u*t*a is slang for the B-word. 

 

When South Viet Nam fell to the invasion by the North, 990,000 refugees left on anything that could float.  The Communists sent 350,000 to re-education camps, where many were among the 737,000 exterminated by the North.  I never read Hanoi Jane's regrets for that. 

 

As to an illegal war, Congress voted to allow the president to proceed with military operations in South Viet Nam.  Just, as they did for Iraq and Afghanistan. There was nothing illegal about any of those operations. 

 

Congress may declare war, or any military operations short of war, as well.  The precedent was set when Jefferson requested Congress voted on a formal declaration of war, against the Barbary States.  Instead, they authorized the President to instruct the commanders of armed American vessels to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli "and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify."

 

You have repeated this many times. I'm unsure whether from ignorance, stupidity, or demogoguery. Irgnorance is curable and excusable.  The other two, are not. 

 

 

The lawsuit against Maher by his ex-girl friend, Nancy Johnson, was dismissed.  But, not before his real attitude towards women, in general, was known.  Back then, he liked to brag about his exploits with call girls. 

 

Now, he's leaving the the closet and not hiding his real feelings towards women --  misogynist, who prefers the company of young men.  What a cliche! Probably blames his moma!  Poor baby.

  

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Bill and Nancy in better times? 

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Ditzy's post:

 

"Palin is an ignorant ****.

I can call her that cause shes a public figure.

Someday you'll understand the difference, but no one cares what the Rush-lickers think anyway."

 

Since Governor Palin is a public figure, you may call her that and not get sued.  That's the only difference.  Just makes you a demogogue, and, perhaps, a misogynist. 

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
As a fan of Jane Fonda, I believe she was justified in her actions, and that what she did was point out the perversity of the actions of the U.S. Military in Vietnam. It too was an illegal war just as those since. We should be ashamed of what has been done around the globe in the name of America.

You are a shameful human being to believe that what she did was justified.  She caused the deaths and torture of US servicemen, who had families at home who were worried sick for their safety. She deliberately gave these men up to their captors so that they could be further tortured, maimed, and even killed.  I have heard many of their stories, and none of them have anything good to say about this wicked witch. If there was ever a traitor to the servicemen and women of this country, it is that dim bulb. Anyone who thinks what she did was justifiable is an azz. No respectable human being can justify her actions.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Ditzy's post:

 

"Palin is an ignorant ****.

I can call her that cause shes a public figure.

Someday you'll understand the difference, but no one cares what the Rush-lickers think anyway."

 

Since Governor Palin is a public figure, you may call her that and not get sued.  That's the only difference.  Just makes you a demogogue, and, perhaps, a misogynist. 


So you must agree that Rush is a he-man woman-hater. 

Palin willingly stepped into the political arena and better expect to take shots and get knocked down. 

Rush made his bed, and Clear Channel can lay in it. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

As the US kept a tyranical system that devoured 250 million humans from spreading around the world, I'll not be too ashamed of our performance throughout the world. Its still killing and torturing, just in less wholesale rates,  in some spots -- Cuba, North Korea, etc.


Genocide has been going on in sub-Saharan Africa for a generation and the US has done nothing to prevent the killing of 25million unarmed civilians.  The Communists went there, created a market place for oil and the associated jobs, and now will profit in the lifetime supply of oil and a few dollars per barrel. 

And, your point is?  That, we should police everywhere?  Much of the genocide was African moslims killing non-moslim African. Otherwise, inter-tribal.

 

As I've stated, in Rwanda, the best we could have done was to put a few Marine battalions on the ground with more medics than usual.  Shot anyone killing unarmed civilians -- mostly tribal militias and French troops.  Then, patched the civilians up and move on.  More than that would have been useless.

So you must agree that Rush is a he-man woman-hater. Palin willingly stepped into the political arena and better expect to take shots and get knocked down. Rush made his bed, and Clear Channel can lay in it.

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Fluke willingly stepped into the political arena too, but unlike palin, she now wants to pretend she can't "take it" even though she most certainly expected, hoped for it. And as bad as you hate it, rush seems to be doing just fine, the tide is turning as more people are boycotting the ones boycotting rush. Fluke made her bed too, and has to "lie in it". Maybe she better do that alone though, seeing as how she can't afford BC and apparently no man thinks enough of her to buy it for her. But something tells me that fluke doesn't really need BC. And again, rush "owned" what he said. You cowardly democrits can't do that. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

And, your point is?  That, we should police everywhere?  Much of the genocide was African moslims killing non-moslim African. Otherwise, inter-tribal.

 

As I've stated, in Rwanda, the best we could have done was to put a few Marine battalions on teh ground with more medics.  Shot anyone killing unarmed civilians -- mostly tribal militias and French troops.  Then, patched the civilians up and move on.  More than that would have been useless.


Do ya think that the subsistence farmers in Vietnam really cared whether their rulers were commies or cappies?  Of course they didnt, so we created the Gulf of Tonkin lie to predicate a war. 

My original post:

And, your point is?  That, we should police everywhere?  Much of the genocide was African moslims killing non-moslim African. Otherwise, inter-tribal.

 

As I've stated, in Rwanda, the best we could have done was to put a few Marine battalions on teh ground with more medics.  Shot anyone killing unarmed civilians -- mostly tribal militias and French troops.  Then, patched the civilians up and move on.  More than that would have been useless.


Ditzy's post:

 

"Do ya think that the subsistence farmers in Vietnam really cared whether their rulers were commies or cappies?  Of course they didnt, so we created the Gulf of Tonkin lie to predicate a war."

 

Warning! Warning, Will Robinson!  Deflection detected.  Up shields.

 

I responded to Ditzy's post about genocide in sub-Sahara Africa.  He attempted deflection by tossing in Viet Nam.

 

Ditzy,

 

As 990,000 Viet Namese took to anything that could float to escape the North Viet Namese. As 350,000 were sent to re-education camps. As 737,000 were exterminated.  I'd say, yes, they cared.  BTW,  Viet Namese farmers weren't subsistence farmers. They could grow 3 to four rice crops a year. Plus, the rubber plantations.  Ignorance is not bliss.

I was in Vietnam last Summer, and every time I ran into someone my age I would ask them, "What did you do during the war?"

Among those I talked to was a man who had been a translator for the Americans and who had been send to a reeducation camp for two years after the retreat of American forces.

When I asked him about the reeducation camp, he said, "Well it wasn't good, but they weren't mean.

It is laughable to say our presence there stopped the spread of anything. We got our a s s handed to us in short order by another third world country.

We've got to stop the Military Industrial Complex at all costs. They are not only using American troops to assassinate innocent people in various parts of the globe, but the drain they have created on the resources of this nation can not be sustained.

 

 

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Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:

I was in Vietnam last Summer, and every time I ran into someone my age I would ask them, "What did you do during the war?"

Among those I talked to was a man who had been a translator for the Americans and who had been send to a reeducation camp for two years after the retreat of American forces.

When I asked him about the reeducation camp, he said, "Well it wasn't good, but they weren't mean.

It is laughable to say our presence there stopped the spread of anything. We got our a s s handed to us in short order by another third world country.

We've got to stop the Military Industrial Complex at all costs. They are not only using American troops to assassinate innocent people in various parts of the globe, but the drain they have created on the resources of this nation can not be sustained.

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You've never been to vietnam in the first place.

And you really have no idea what stopped the war.

Do you know what part your girl friend played at the end of the war?

And do you know why we didn't push for the win sooner to end

the war sooner?

 

 


 

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:

I was in Vietnam last Summer, and every time I ran into someone my age I would ask them, "What did you do during the war?"

Among those I talked to was a man who had been a translator for the Americans and who had been send to a reeducation camp for two years after the retreat of American forces.

When I asked him about the reeducation camp, he said, "Well it wasn't good, but they weren't mean.

It is laughable to say our presence there stopped the spread of anything. We got our a s s handed to us in short order by another third world country.

We've got to stop the Military Industrial Complex at all costs. They are not only using American troops to assassinate innocent people in various parts of the globe, but the drain they have created on the resources of this nation can not be sustained.

 

 

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"Thousands of urban Vietnamese families have been forced to sell their homes and start over again in new economic areas ere even the basic necessities are lacking. (Hence corruption, once thought of as a Thieu trademark, is flourishing: a new mandarin class has emerged ready to sell anything from a place in a fertile new economic area to a visa to France

 

In all, some 300,000 people are being detained in re-eucation camps which are in no way similar to the show camps set up for the benefit of visiting dignitaries an foreign reporters. (TheWashington Post story of February 15 was based on a visit to such a show camp.)

 

One out every three Saigon families has a member in one of the camps, according to French journalist Jean Lacouture, who made an automobile trip from Hanoi to Saigon in 1976. After a visit to a new economic area for former Saigon near Phan-Thiet, Lacouture wrote that it was “a prefabricated hell and a place one comes to only if the alternative to it would be death.”

 

Camps for former officers and functionaries of the Saigon government are usually located in malaria infested jungle areas. Thousands of camp inmates have died from lack of food, medicine, or clothing. Thousands have committed suicide some have been secretly liquidated, others perish through staged “accidents”: For example, former officers are forced to de-activate minefields with their bare hands, so the regime will not have to waste valuable bullets on them.

 

After the officers had mostly “been taken care of, it was the turn of the intellectuals some 2,500 of whom were sent to re-education camps. Among them are journalists, authors, scholars, professors, Western-educated technicians, student leaders, “Third Force” leaders. The list of prominent Vietnamese now either in prison or in concentration camps includes Catholic Bishop Nguyen Van Thuan; a 72-year-old Hoa-Hao Buddhist leader, Luong Trong Tuong; and 17 members of his family Harvard-educated Tony Nguyen Xuan Oanh; lawyer Tran Van Tuyen."

 

http://jim.com/ChomskyLiesCite...pened_in_Vietnam.htm

 

The Hoa Hao were hardly a threat.  Its hard to not like a religion where Victor Hugo is a saint.

 

Then, there were the 737,000 exterminated in the bloodbath -- One Red Viet Nam.

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
As a fan of Jane Fonda, I believe she was justified in her actions, and that what she did was point out the perversity of the actions of the U.S. Military in Vietnam. It too was an illegal war just as those since. We should be ashamed of what has been done around the globe in the name of America.

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Do you live in a home for old hippies? 

As usual, most of you have  no idea of what you are talking about. The Vietnamese are the happiest people I have ever encountered. They live in a beautiful country, although it is pretty steamy in the  Summer. They really like American despite the war. They are extremely productive, simply because they are motivated by the fact that their Socialist Republic is self sufficient. They have their problems, the average annual income is $200 USD. This is sufficient, however because everything created in country is relatively cheap. Food was especially good and cheap. The war ended for one reason. They whipped us.  Here's some of the ladies we partied with. As you can see they are very repressed and beaten down by their government

 

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As to self sufficiency, you shouldn't believe everything they told you:

  Imports--(2010) $84 billion; (2011, first 9 months) $76.87 billion. Principal imports--machinery, oil and gas, iron and steel, garment materials, plastics, and electronics





http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/4130.htm

 

The US destroyed the Viet Cong after Tet. After Tet, we destroyed the Northern battalions disquised as VC.  The North signed a peace treaty in Paris with the US.  As part of the treaty, we promised to supply the South with materiel.  The North invaded the South, breaking the treaty.  Congress reneged on the promise of materiel after Nixon resigned.  Without muntions, fuel and weapons, the South Viet Namese simply collapsed.

 

Your post is straight out of old commie propaganda.  Then, you talk like one.

 

"They are extremely productive, simply because they are motivated by the fact that their Socialist Republic is self sufficient."  This read almost exactly from descriptions of North Korea and their juchi (self sufficiency) theme.

 

Lenin used to refer to such as you as "useful idiots." Now, with the Soviet Union dead, China metamorphing into a fascist state, only a few rag tag communists states such as Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea and, of course,  the diehard holdouts in the halls of academia (US and Europe), its more like “useless idiots.”

 

As to the photo, the buildings look much more shabby than in the days of South Viet Nam. Whitewash is drag and sooty. The roofs are missing several clay shingles. Come the rainy season, there will be leaks.  Was the man standing to your right, your tour guide?  Usually, they are an agent of the government, even for the private tour guide services.  I still get spammed by several Viet Namese companies for such services.  Wonder which one of the old gals is the party block warden? No one dares complain!

 

 A little something from Human Rights Watch.

 

"The Vietnamese government tightened controls on freedom of expression during 2010, harassing, arresting, and jailing dozens of writers, political activists, and other peaceful critics.

 

Cyber-attacks originating from Vietnam-based servers disabled dissident websites and the government introduced new restrictions on public internet shops while continuing to restrict access to numerous overseas websites.

Public protests over evictions, confiscation of church properties, and police brutality were met at times with excessive use of force by police. Police routinely tortured suspects in custody.

 

Vietnam, which served as the chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in 2010, demonstrated little respect for core principles in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Charter to "strengthen democracy" and "protect and promote human rights and fundamental freedoms."

 

2010 saw a steady stream of political trials and arrests as the government stepped up suppression of dissent in advance of the 11th Communist Party congress in January 2011. In December 2009 and January 2010, five activists linked to the banned Democratic Party of Vietnam, including lawyer Le Cong Dinh, were sentenced to prison on subversion charges, followed by the January 29 sentencing of democracy campaigner Pham Thanh Nghien for disseminating anti-government propaganda. On February 5 writer and former political prisoner Tran Khai Thanh Thuy, who was arrested after trying to attend the trials of fellow dissidents in 2009, was sentenced to three-and-a-half years' imprisonment on trumped-up assault charges.

 

The government does not allow independent or privately-owned domestic media to operate and exerts strict controls over the press and internet. Criminal penalties apply to authors, publications, websites, and internet users who disseminate materials that oppose the government, threaten national security, reveal state secrets, or promote "reactionary" ideas. The government blocks access to politically sensitive websites, requires internet cafe owners to monitor and store information about users' online activities, and subjects independent bloggers and online critics to harassment and pressure.

 

The government restricts religious practices through legislation, registration requirements, harassment, and surveillance. A special centrally directed police unit (A41) monitors groups the authorities consider religious "extremists."

Religious groups are required to register with the government and operate under government-controlled management boards. The government bans any religious activity deemed to oppose "national interests," harm national unity, cause public disorder, or "sow divisions."

 

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/Vietnam

Of course, you didn’t comment on the 737,000 exterminated under the One Red Viet Nam program.

 

 

 

 

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