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I hope this is one of the things you wingnut Libs understood we were going to get when you thought it would be cool to vote this Obama fellow into office.
The cap-and-trade Carbon Tax is now officially on the fast-
track and Chairman Henry Waxman is forcing a vote in less
than 48 hours. Yesterday, Waxman officially skipped the subcommittee and
sent out a memo that the 1,000+-page bill would be pushed
through the key Energy and Commerce committee by Thursday:

"My goal is to conclude consideration of the legislation on
Thursday, May 21... Members should be prepared to work
late on Tuesday and Wednesday evenings."

This Carbon Tax is the most dangerous and oppressive
power grab that we have yet seen -- perhaps even worse
than the bailouts! The Waxman bill will give the government the power to
regulate and control the air -- and you and I will be forced to pay!

Waxman wants this bill wrapped up and through the Energy
and Commerce Committee this week because there is real
opposition -- even from some Democrats -- to this outrageous
energy tax. One more note -- while Obama was pushing Waxman to fast-track
this Energy Tax, a memo leaked out of Obama's Office of Management
and Budget which harshly criticized the Carbon Tax...

"The decision to regulate CO2... for the first time is likely
to have serious economic consequences"...

The memo -- which adds that CO2 has "no demonstrated direct health
effects" -- has been a source of great embarrassment to the Obama
administration.

Those of us who have been warning that radical liberals are so power-
hungry they would regulate the air you breathe were called kooky tinfoil-
hat conspiracy theorists.

Bow down and kiss the ring!

IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
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You're not going to get this on the news.. until it's already law.. I hope people understand the ramifications of this... Federal supported robbery! It is serious time to consider moving to another nation.. I never thought I would have that thought.. but that is where all this is headed.. The Government is killing us at every level... money, money MORE FREAKING MONEY.
they have to go.. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!

This is our government acting like Chicago mafia thugs
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Do you not know, or do you not care what this means?
The eruption of one volcano emits more CO2 than all the cars on the planet do in 30 years! You know CO2, The stuff that sustains plant life? and the kelp in the ocean that turns it into the air we breathe?
This tax will be passed through to every sector of the economy. It starts with utility rates. The wholesale price of goods and services will rise because it takes energy to manufacture goods and it takes energy to move them into the market place. Get ready to pay more for everything. It's a tax which will be especially hard on middle class, and poor people are screwed, But of course there will be subsidies for them if you fall within certain demographic groups Roll Eyes
this coupled with the inflation caused by printing trillions (ok, some of it is just virtual red ink, not even paper fiat money). Americans are about to spiral downhill faster to the poorhouse; also get ready for higher state and federal gas taxes, cigs, beer, soda, etc etc. Because THEY CAN"T DO with LESS SO WE WILL HAVE TO.
Change- it's all that will be left after you pay your bills.
But even this isn't enough, I promise you our locally elected officials are scheming and plotting against us even as you read this is to how they can get even more of yours and mines money so they can vote themselves pay raises and not have to suffer this with the rest of us!
and guess what? When they have managed to bleed us dry and YOU CAN NOT PAY OR GIVE ANY MORE THEY WILL JAIL YOU because jailing us means subsidies.

VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Oh,God. The lugnuts are gettin all histerikal agin.


We'll see what you have to say when your utility bill, groceries and everything else you must have to live doubles in price. Tax and spend, the real democratic way.. Clinton was mild.. too mild, folks have forgotten how the democrats work.
President Obama is doing exactly what McCain said he was going to do.. redistributing the wealth. I would hope for your sake you are either very poor, or very rich because there is a war against the middle class.. Just like Lou Dobbs has been saying for years.. we are screwed

As long as you would dare to quote Eisenhower I would recomend his farewell speech as a read.
Link
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Cap and trade is really bad law. All it will achieve is to incentivize even more industrial companies to relocate their operations overseas to countries that are not subject to such laws, taking even more U.S. jobs with them.

And of course it has no effect on the other emerging countries' output, many of whom have already surpassed the U.S. in emissions or will surpass us by a large margin in the next decade or two. So all it does it make the U.S. even more uncompetitive while losing more jobs, raising expenses on consumers at precisely the time when they can't afford it, and will have no net impact on global emissions. Roll Eyes
Cold Hard Truth,
I agree with you, this is bad news for businesses but even more so for the people who struggle from omonth to month to pay their bills. When your utility bills increase 30-40% and the cost per gallon of fuel more than doubles who will you blame then? This is not the Bushies passing something thru without debate, this is the new order who told everyone they would not allow such things to happen. Businesses will leave the country and the unemployment numbers are going to continue to increase.
Despite what the liberals on here believe this 1000 page document has the ability to bring this country to a standstill. It is not going to decrease carbon emissions nor save the world. It will not control the emissions from China, India nor Pakistan, Russia nor Venezuela. It is all about control of the American dollar.
Bend over, this one is gonna hurt worse than any thus far.
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Originally posted by teyates:
Cold Hard Truth,
I agree with you, this is bad news for businesses but even more so for the people who struggle from omonth to month to pay their bills. When your utility bills increase 30-40% and the cost per gallon of fuel more than doubles who will you blame then? This is not the Bushies passing something thru without debate, this is the new order who told everyone they would not allow such things to happen. Businesses will leave the country and the unemployment numbers are going to continue to increase.
Despite what the liberals on here believe this 1000 page document has the ability to bring this country to a standstill. It is not going to decrease carbon emissions nor save the world. It will not control the emissions from China, India nor Pakistan, Russia nor Venezuela. It is all about control of the American dollar.
Bend over, this one is gonna hurt worse than any thus far.

As we have experienced in the past Sheffield utility has no problem at all with throwing a 40% increase on us all on their own.. This is going to be much different.. I would guess they are going to double.. maybe not all at once.. but very soon.. It is a very, very good time to look into solar panels and batteries. I think we are going to see a major increase in the next couple of months anyhow as they will use the new garbage trucks as an excuse.

People mistakenly think all this is cute and will bow down to it.. no choice really.. time to learn some new recipes for beans, rice, cornbread.. maybe even time to consider a garden.. If we can afford the water. a 10lb sack of spuds costs 8 bucks at shopright now. If there was ever a time to understand why our forefathers didn't want the smothering oppression of the Fed's in our business and backyards.. here she comes. It's not going to be pretty.
I truly feel bad for our seniors and others who must get by on Social Security or other stipend type checks. They wont be seeing any more money, perhaps even cuts. The Fed's have already run SS into the ground by "borrowing" from it.
Our nation is 65 trillion dollars in debt and going up millions more hourly.. We are swirling around the toilet bowl.. literally!
VOTE THEM ALL OUT!

VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
Here is a link to the bill: Link

Among its provisions:

"The Administrator of USAID shall, after consulting with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, distribute at least 40 percent and up to 60 percent of the funds available to the
Program to an international fund
..."
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Originally posted by TPLAW2:
"An international fund is eligible for funding under the Program provided that it is created pursuant to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, done at New
York on May 9, 1992, or an agreement negotiated under the Convention."

Seriously, does anyone approve of this bill?


TPLAW2,I'm sure there are alot of Obamatons out there who approve of the bill but will never read it.He could propose a bill forcing the afterbirth abortion of all harelips and crosseyed people and some of the Weetards for Obama would praise him for it.
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while Obama was pushing Waxman to fast-track

Thats how it is about Obama.It just amazes me the amount of people who see no wrong it whats going on just because Obama is the President.If Bush had of proposed a law like this,cigareete or soft drink tax,orany of the things Obama is supporting people would be calling for his head,with reason.People are willing to stand back and just let the Government do what it wants simply because Obama is president now and he's supposed to be a different sort of politician.BS!He's different;he's more crooked than a python trying to fit in a shoe box.
Obama doesn't run anything but his mouth.. but he's very good at it.. and reading a teleprompter.
People now accept many of the things Bush implemented that people wanted his head for just because Obama is saying they are right. They are ALL New World Order people.. The Bilderbergers are having their convention in Greece right now. I wish I could be a fly on the wall to hear the treachery they are cooking up.. In Obama they have the best front man they have ever had. Clinton furthered the goals of the NWO people more than anybody ever did.. People just liked him.. People think this Obama guy can walk on water.. They didn't like Bush, yet Obama is adopting or has taken Bushes positions on just about EVERYTHING! and he flip flops and breaks his campaign promises daily. (not that any of it was Bush"s own ides)
The average person just doesn't know or even care.
We can try to VOTE THEM ALL OUT! but I rewally doubt that is even possible.. The Federal Reserve, hand in hand with the Government has taken over entire industries to include, the banking industry.. They forced many banks to take bail out money that neither needed or wanted them.. why? Because the Federal reserve is gleaning billions in interest money produced out of thin air! The Federal Reserve is a conglomerate of Bank of America, Citi Group, National and several others.. They have given themselves billions of dollars in bailout money GUARANTEED by the Federal Government, which means OUR TAX DOLLARS. it is a circle of spiral madness. This is why we are seeing all these new schemes for dramatically increased streams of revenue. The debt must be serviced.
They have taken over the auto industry.. they have taken over the printing industry.. They have taken over the real estate industry They are working on a way to soon skim billions / trillions from the whole exchange of commerce on the internet Eeker This is all socialism maneuvering and engineering.. this is the redistribution of wealth.. all controlled by a rapidly growing socialist agenda. The haves vs. the have nots.. when we are all have nots because they have and are successfully destroying the middle class we will all be slaves.
Law enforcement are their bagmen.. most cops don't even know it.
Their are weird freaky, frightening times rolling down the pike people.. we can do nothing, but try to;
VOTE THEM ALL OUT!! although I fear it is already too late
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Originally posted by skymaster:
I agree Cold Hard Truth. It could be too late for America to survive obuma and his wacky agenda.

The agenda is not his own, he is a frontman, a salesman, a mouthpiece.. and a very, very good one.
All one has to do is follow the money.. It all goes right back to the Federal Reserve.. These are the same people who financed the 2 world wars and made untold millions, Actually they financed both sides of the world wars, These are the people who financed Namm, Korea and the wars in the deserts. They are doing it again.
They are financing the war on terror, they are financing the bail outs.. they control and own everything, EVERYTHING!
I know it sounds like conspiracy.. and it is.. against us and the world.

Watch this.. Link

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