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Hi to all my Forum Friends,

HOLOCAUST, ABORTION, AND YOU -- THIRTY THREE MINUTES which could change your life and your world.   Please watch this video -- and then share it with all your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs.  So much depends upon YOU.    


"180" MOVIE -- The Way Of The Master Ministry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...t=SPF7A795CE0A9857FE

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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The only thing wrong with abortions is that there just aren't enough of them. Can you imagine how much more difficult things would be with another 30 or 40 million unwanted children. We already have the highest children murder rate in the world. 

The trouble with the antiabortionists, is that  they could care less what happens to the "fetus" once it is born. 

Let the world take care of the problem. Let's not prevent it in a reasonable fashion. Let's tell them to abstain from sex.

Yea,  that works.

Once again we agree Senior Coffee! I have said that before here. Most people who are against abortion are also against welfare. It makes no sense to me how they expect to reasonably and logically take care of all these children that are unwanted without welfare. Then you have children being either raised by the state (which is never good) or raised by someone that did not want them and more than likely will take it out on the child.

 

Abortions should be much easier to get and less controversial. Heck I would rather pay for a woman to have an abortion than see a child brought into this world that is unwanted and will be uncared for.

Hi Senior and Dark,

 

Since you both advocate more abortions to control world population -- don't you agree that killing off the unnecessary folks will also help?  Where should we start?  Do you think we should kill everyone over 70?  How about 60, or 50?  Could we then start by eliminatinng folks by color, or height, or language? 

 

Wow!  Just think how great the world will be when we have eliminated all those who are different from us.    Great idea from two great minds.  You two keep up the good work.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Well Semi I think that women have the right to make these decisions for themselves. A fetus is not a person yet. It is a potential person, but not yet what an elderly person is. I have spent a lot of time in nursing homes actually. I feel very sorry for the elderly that are put there and then left to die, with no one to visit or spend time with them. I certainly do not think they should be murdered. I do believe that they should have the right to die if they want to though. I am for assisted suicide.

 

I have spent time in abortion clinics also.  There are thousands of stories and reasons why women have abortions. I don't feel it is my place or right to tell them what to do with their own bodies. If they don't think it is a good idea to have a baby (for whatever reason) then it sure in hell is not my place to tell them differently. Nor anyone elses.

 

Also I am a woman, and I have carried a child and given birth. Having gone through it myself I can honestly say I have even more sympathy for those that are not as fortunate as I was/am and have a reason to have an abortion. Not always, but most of the time carrying a pregnancy to full term is just not an option. Later in life and in different circumstance they may be able to become pregnant and truly enjoy the whole process and become a parent. I don't think women should be forcibly sterilized just because they have had an abortion.

Abortion is not murder. I too could not imagine committing murder.

 

If there are women that use abortion as birth control the numbers are extremely low. What do I think of those that do? I am glad they are not mothers, that is for sure.

 

Your friend sounds like a total idiot. There is no way I would expose myself to the STD this "Dr" might have. Actually they were both idiots.

 

We will probably not agree on the abortion issue Semi. If you think women who have abortions are murderers then you are at the total opposite end of the spectrum than I am on this subject.

 

quote:  Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Abortion is not murder.  I too could not imagine committing murder.   If there are women that use abortion as birth control the numbers are extremely low.  What do I think of those that do? I am glad they are not mothers, that is for sure.


Hi Dark,

 

When one person takes the life on another person -- that is murder.  You may call it what you like.  But, most of the world calls this murder.   And, a large percentage of abortions, as Chick has told us, are gruesome and cruel methods of taking life -- at any age.  Medical science has proven, in courts, that the fetus does feel pain.  

 

Imagine the pain that child feels when its legs, arms, and head -- are ripped from its body by the abortionist's tools.   That is as bad as, or even worse than, the Molech sacrifices of the Old Testament when pagans burned babies to death to appease their god, Molech.

 

You tell us in an earlier post, "A fetus is not a person yet.  It is a potential person, but not yet what an elderly person is." 

 

What is a "potential person"?  Is the fetus the same as an elderly person?  No.  Why?  Because the fetus has not yet been allowed to live to old age.  However, given that its mother and an abortion doctor do not take the life of that fetus (murder?  yes) -- that fetus will most likely live a long life -- possibly even to the point of becoming elderly. 

 

How can you say that you, or anyone else, has the right to deprive this child of that opportunity?

 

Dark, you tell Chick, "If there are women that use abortion as birth control the numbers are extremely low."

 

Is that only YOUR opinion?  Or, do you have facts to support this statement?  Many of us have known people who used abortion as their preferred method of birth control.   I knew a young lady in Seattle, less than 30 years old, who had already had 6 abortions.  Personally, although I cannot give you supported statistics, I believe the number of people using abortion as their preferred method of birth control would most likely shock all of us.

 

Dark, I am not condemning any woman who has already had an abortion.  No one needs to do that; her conscience, in many cases, is already doing that.  I do not condemn women who have had abortions in the past

 

But, for those who are contemplating abortions, for those who are still willing to use abortion for birth control -- I say shame on you.  No one has a right to take the life of another human being.

 

Already I can see some of my dedicated followers taking pen in hand, or actually fingers to keyboards, eager to write the question, "Bill, you say that you do not believe that anyone has the right to take another human life.  What about capital punishment?  Do you believe in that?"

 

I do not support capital punishment.  Personally, I believe life in prison with no parole is much greater punishment in this life.  And, in the next, God will deal with this person.  Let the killer sit in prison for many years, with absolutely NO possibility of parole -- thinking about the day he/she has to face God. 

 

My Friends, that is true punishment.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

AND, YES -- everyone WILL face God one day -- whether you believe in Him or not.  Imagine standing before the Creator of all things, and declaring, "But, you are not real!  I don't believe in You!'

 

And, I can imagine Him saying, sadly, "Step forward, child.  It is time for you to review all you have said and done in your mortal life.  Your eternal home awaits; but, not with Me."

 

My Friends, while you are still breathing in this mortal body -- there is still time to change your life course and follow Him.  Please, for your eternal soul, give this great consideration.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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