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Originally posted by luvmypups:
So what's the difference between a homeschooler being able to participate in sports (or maybe in some cases an academic class)in public school and allowing students (homeschool and public) to dual enroll in college. Honestly, I don't see much difference - each is taking advantage of something their current situation doesn't or can't offer.

Good point. The dual enrollment program is great and a lot of home school kids participate.
Once the kids get to the college level, high school is irrelevant.
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Originally posted by luvmypups:
So what's the difference between a homeschooler being able to participate in sports (or maybe in some cases an academic class)in public school and allowing students (homeschool and public) to dual enroll in college. Honestly, I don't see much difference - each is taking advantage of something their current situation doesn't or can't offer.
There is a vast difference between public school (K-12) and college. If a high school student dual enrolls at UNA and Central, they cannot play college athletics for UNA. There are rules and guidelines in place.
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Originally posted by SardonicPoet:
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Originally posted by T S C:
We were discussing people being able to take advantage of services offered by the schools even if they did not attend those schools. The free / reduced price lunch program, school nurses, guidance counselors, and extra-curricular activities are all services outside of academics that are offered to students. They are all services that I personally do not believe that any child who does not attend the school should be allowed to use.


you still haven't convinced me WHY you believe that?

do their parents not pay school taxes?
I don't have to convice you "why" I believe anything. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Yes, the parents still pay school taxes, big deal, so do lots of people who don't have kids. That does not matter a hill of beans.

I do not think it is right to allow parents to cherry pick the services that they would like to take from the public school system. It is offensive to me, as a parent of a public school attending child, to have someone come into my child's school and say "I want my child to join yours on the majorette line, but the academics here are not adequate for us".

Again, schools do not prevent children from learning. They provide a foundation that parents can build upon. I have no gripe with people who wish to homeschool. I have a gripe with people who wish to homeschool and then complain that the public schools are shutting their kids out. Their kids are not students at the school and therefore have no business being there.
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I do not think it is right to allow parents to cherry pick the services that they would like to take from the public school system. It is offensive to me, as a parent of a public school attending child, to have someone come into my child's school and say "I want my child to join yours on the majorette line, but the academics here are not adequate for us".


If the majorette line can benefit the child's development but the academics are sub-standard, what's so evil about having that choice?

Why the insistence that the two be connected?
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Originally posted by SardonicPoet:
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I do not think it is right to allow parents to cherry pick the services that they would like to take from the public school system. It is offensive to me, as a parent of a public school attending child, to have someone come into my child's school and say "I want my child to join yours on the majorette line, but the academics here are not adequate for us".


If the majorette line can benefit the child's development but the academics are sub-standard, what's so evil about having that choice?

Why the insistence that the two be connected?
The two ARE connected. The two are both offerings by the school, during the school day, not just after-school activities. They are classes that the students earn credit for and should not be treated as anything less.
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Originally posted by SardonicPoet:

If the majorette line can benefit the child's development but the academics are sub-standard, what's so evil about having that choice?

Why the insistence that the two be connected?


My two cents FWIW - those sports teams, majorette lines, scholar bowl teams or any other extra-cirrcular activity represent the students at that particular school. If you don't go to school there you are not a part of that student body and should not represent that school.

Now if the homeschool people want to get together and form a team and join the ASIA or AHSAA and abide by the rules then go for it.
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Originally posted by T S C:
The two ARE connected. The two are both offerings by the school, during the school day, not just after-school activities. They are classes that the students earn credit for and should not be treated as anything less.


Can you provide me with some reasoning as why they "should not be treated" differently if the State of Alabama chooses to do so?

I'm just trying to understand your aversion to the idea, but all I'm getting in response is "because it shouldn't be that way!" (pardon my paraphrasing)
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Can you provide me with some reasoning as why they "should not be treated" differently if the State of Alabama chooses to do so?

I'm just trying to understand your aversion to the idea, but all I'm getting in response is "because it shouldn't be that way!" (pardon my paraphrasing)

Because they are not different. Band and athletic PE are 6th period class at my daughter's school. She gets a grade for those classes, just like math and English. So we have kids come on campus and participate in those classes and then go home? Then they come back and play on Friday night? The homeschooled kids are not subject to the same rules as the kids who attend the school. If my kid is tardy 3 times in a week to her classes, she gets After School Detention. If she gets ADS, then she doesn't get to march that week. Homeschoolers are exempt from that rule. If my daughter makes a D on her report card, she does not get to march that grading period. None of the homeschoolers are in her Earth Science class, so they are held to a different grading process.

It is not fair to the students who attend a school, have pride in that school, follow the rules of that school, and are privileged and proud to represent that school, to have someone who has decided to opt out of the school come in and represent the school as a majorette, cheerleader, football player, golfer, or whatever.
My take if anyone gives a hoot: The Florence City School system offers the best curriculum in this area and perhaps even rivals some of the best schools in the state.

All of our students benefit from the diversity our schools offer. When you remove your child to homeschool them or send then to a local brainwashing academy you are removng the brightest minds from the public school system.

While I support your right to do so, when you do so, you remove your child from being a positive influence on my child.

If we take this trend to the extreme, we eventually end up with all the brightest kids attending private/homeschool leaving only the problem children in public education.

So, while you have the right to provide private education, the public school system should not be expected to roll out the red carpet and help you destroy public education.
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Originally posted by daybeggar:
What is the objective here? If the goal is to develop the best young people we can then we should bring every asset into play in order to accomplish that goal. If however, the objective is to protect the school fiefdoms then by all means...keep those homeschooled kids out of the sports and extra-curricula activities.


Ditto
With pee wee leagues and summer ball and travel ball -- all kids have an opportunity to be involved in sports -- on top of Upward Sports through several local churches...

As far as music -- there are many great teachers in the area to help with that offering.

Basically, once the kids get to an age where they want to be involved in these type of activities, the family should sit down and discuss it and make a decision as a whole whether or not to attend public school and have those opportunities or whether to continue the home schooling...

While I do think there is an arguement for "I pay my taxes so my child should benefit" -- school can't be an al a carte type thing -- it unfortunately requires that you take the good with the bad...
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Originally posted by daybeggar:
What is the objective here? If the goal is to develop the best young people we can then we should bring every asset into play in order to accomplish that goal. If however, the objective is to protect the school fiefdoms then by all means...keep those homeschooled kids out of the sports and extra-curricula activities.
If the goal is to develop the best young people and improve the schools - then my vote is for a school voucher program. But we don't have that option, do we? So since we are stuck with the current system, I am against people who have left the schools trying to take advantage of some of the schools offerings to suit their wants. Not their needs. As Dixiechick pointed out - there is no need for homeschoolers to participate in public school athletics or music programs. It is simply a way of taking away from the kids who attend the schools from 8:00 - 3:00 every day and an increased burden on the teachers and administrators.
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Originally posted by T S C:
LMM No, I would not be in favor of homeschooled kids coming to my daughter's school and playing ball, taking art, marching in the band even if they paid for everything out of pocket. To me it is not about money. Imagine that. It is about the principle of the matter. If you choose to not send your kid to the local public school, then you choose to forfeit the benefits of public schooling - one of which is extra curricular activities. Another of which is free lunch. Can the homeschooled kids in the school district drop by for lunch if they qualify for free or reduced priced meals? Or hey, can they just come in and eat with the students every day for some social time? Stop by and see the school nurse, get a little guidance counselling... That is disruptive and I am very much against it.

mackadoo, I think that if a student in the Lauderdale County School system (for example) wants to play a sport that is not offered at their school than that is too bad. The scenario that your portray is asking for all kinds of abuses. How about we decide to have Central and LCHS keep their football teams and all the other county schools drop theirs? Then we can have two big football powerhouses when the kids from all the other county schools go to play for one of the two teams we keep. See the problem there?

I'm in favor of allowing kids to take classes at other schools within their district, but when you start messing with athletics you are opening a can of worms and asking for corruption and scandals.
T S C ......i think you are grasping for straws. the policies that we are discussing actually work(in neighboring states) and apparently do not cause as many problems as you imagine. but you're right , they probably wont work here. too many hard-headed , narrow-minded people.
Pretty much my thoughts also mackadoo. I know our cover school welcomes kids to participate in any activity they have regardless of what cover they use or school they attend private or public. In other words, if we have a field trip or even a co-op class that occurred after public school hours and it wasn't something offered in the school system a public school child would be welcome to participate.
You almost have to wonder what people that are so adamantly against "mixed" participation are so afraid of that they don't want their child around a homeschooled child.

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Originally posted by mackadoo:

T S C ......i think you are grasping for straws. the policies that we are discussing actually work(in neighboring states) and apparently do not cause as many problems as you imagine. but you're right , they probably wont work here. too many hard-headed , narrow-minded people.[/QUOTE]
My child has friends who are home schooled. The children next door to us are homeschooled and they are nice kids. I have no problem with "mixed" classes.

I have a problem with people taking their kids out of public schools and then wanting to put them in only the "fun" parts. How would you feel if your child went to a public school from kindergarten through 10th grade and had always been on a certain team - say cheering or football - and then some homeschooled kid bounced in and took their spot on the team? Yes, we want the best kids on the team, but extra-curriculars are all that keep a lot of kids IN school. It is the "treat" for attending all day, every day, and making good grades. To allow a kid who doesn't even attend the school to steal that away from them is obscene.
You are right. It is such a treat for so many kids that want to participate in sports in the public school system. I wonder how many of the kids that would love to participate have made the grade and attend all day are beat out by someone who isn't nearly as good at the sport as they are but happens to have the "right" connections and are chosen over the better athlete who is a "nobody". I'm sure that never happens though.

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Originally posted by T S C:
My child has friends who are home schooled. The children next door to us are homeschooled and they are nice kids. I have no problem with "mixed" classes.

I have a problem with people taking their kids out of public schools and then wanting to put them in only the "fun" parts. How would you feel if your child went to a public school from kindergarten through 10th grade and had always been on a certain team - say cheering or football - and then some homeschooled kid bounced in and took their spot on the team? Yes, we want the best kids on the team, but extra-curriculars are all that keep a lot of kids IN school. It is the "treat" for attending all day, every day, and making good grades. To allow a kid who doesn't even attend the school to steal that away from them is obscene.
This whole entire subject is rearing the heads of greed and selfishness in the PARENTS. Ohhh no their children cannot go to the public schools for whatever the reason,but now for those extracuriculars,,well thats an all together different subject. Little Johnny wants to play football,or little Suzie wants to be a cheerleader.
Amazing,simply amazing.
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Originally posted by luvmypups:
You are right. It is such a treat for so many kids that want to participate in sports in the public school system. I wonder how many of the kids that would love to participate have made the grade and attend all day are beat out by someone who isn't nearly as good at the sport as they are but happens to have the "right" connections and are chosen over the better athlete who is a "nobody". I'm sure that never happens though.

Again, if you realize that it IS a problem, then why compound it???
Greed or selfishness plays no part in my thinking. We've BTDT - private school, public school and homeschool, played sports and not played sports. If they passed a law yesterday saying my homeschooled child could participate in public school activities it would make to difference to me one way or the other. There are other states that have implemented it and it evidently works or they wouldn't continue to allow it.
Skeptic make a comment in an earlier post (I ended up CandPing) that allowing homeschoolers in would amount to rolling out the red carpet and helping destroy the public school system. Unfortunately, I think if some things don't change with the system they're going to pretty much take care of that themselves without any help from homeschoolers.



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Originally posted by smurph:
This whole entire subject is rearing the heads of greed and selfishness in the PARENTS. Ohhh no their children cannot go to the public schools for whatever the reason,but now for those extracuriculars,,well thats an all together different subject. Little Johnny wants to play football,or little Suzie wants to be a cheerleader.
Amazing,simply amazing.


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My take if anyone gives a hoot: The Florence City School system offers the best curriculum in this area and perhaps even rivals some of the best schools in the state.

All of our students benefit from the diversity our schools offer. When you remove your child to homeschool them or send then to a local brainwashing academy you are removng the brightest minds from the public school system.

While I support your right to do so, when you do so, you remove your child from being a positive influence on my child.

If we take this trend to the extreme, we eventually end up with all the brightest kids attending private/homeschool leaving only the problem children in public education.

So, while you have the right to provide private education, the public school system should not be expected to roll out the red carpet and help you destroy public education.
I totally agree with Skeptic
Home schooled children should not be allowed to participate in public school activities.Its not good enough 5 days a week,6 1/2 hrs a day ,,then it is not good enough for the fun goodies. Home schoolers want their children involved in extras,,then by all means organize those said activities and leave those lacking,less than,mean ole public schools and all their activities,classes,etc alone.
Home schoolers got what they wanted,total control over their childrens education,activities,friends,etc. Well they got it.
It is just amazing to me to read how afraid or nervous some of you are about being around my homeschooled (according to some, brainwashed and friendless and socially misfit) kids.

Mine participate in regional activities (every one they would like that we can afford), but not public school activities. It does not bother me to keep them from the local public school--they certainly are not needing the "socialization" that your kids provide.

Every one who has come into contact with my children have no idea that they are "homeschooled misfits" unless of course, that we have told them we homeschool. The folks just know that my kids are nice and courteous. They are also just as on-the-ball mentally as most of the kids we know (some are sharper, some are duller).

It does not bother me at all to keep my kids out of the public school offerings--especially since it would cut into our own field trips to interesting places, and vacations when you are in school, and visiting Grandma whenever we want. It's nice to start summer vacation before April is over.
I know what you mean. Not to mention the fact that I'm so controlling of mine that he's been able to take time out from school work to spend time with friends from public and private school the last 3 weeks that different ones have had spring break.

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Originally posted by greenhill mom:
It is just amazing to me to read how afraid or nervous some of you are about being around my homeschooled (according to some, brainwashed and friendless and socially misfit) kids.

Mine participate in regional activities (every one they would like that we can afford), but not public school activities. It does not bother me to keep them from the local public school--they certainly are not needing the "socialization" that your kids provide.

Every one who has come into contact with my children have no idea that they are "homeschooled misfits" unless of course, that we have told them we homeschool. The folks just know that my kids are nice and courteous. They are also just as on-the-ball mentally as most of the kids we know (some are sharper, some are duller).

It does not bother me at all to keep my kids out of the public school offerings--especially since it would cut into our own field trips to interesting places, and vacations when you are in school, and visiting Grandma whenever we want. It's nice to start summer vacation before April is over.
The only point I see (and it is a wonderful point of homeschooling) that it proves is that we have greater flexibility than you do. Our kids still have to do required school work - we just have the freedom to take a drive and visit Shiloh Battlefield for our day's history lesson instead of just reading about it in a book.Then that lesson turns into a writing assignment, which also turns into a child wanting to learn more about life in that time period which leads them to other topics. When we go on vacation we can always find something in the area we visit to tie in with education and we can go at a time when there is less of a crowd to deal with. You would be surprised at the things a kid can do during the "off season" at some places. They spend more time and get much more out of it than when just part of crowd that's pushing on to get to the next spot. And many times are offered the opportunity to participate and see things that wouldn't be available if there were 30 kids there at the same time.

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Originally posted by smurph:
the 2 last posts prove my point! Thank you.
Another consideration: Home-school kids aren't held to the same grading standards as public.

When the grades of public kids fall below a certrain point they are prevented from participating in a extracurricular program.

Home-schooled kids simply have to pass the standardized tests. No one knows what their current grade point average is.

The fact that they are held to different standards is not fair to the kids who are tested
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Originally posted by sb07:
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Originally posted by SardonicPoet:

If the majorette line can benefit the child's development but the academics are sub-standard, what's so evil about having that choice?

Why the insistence that the two be connected?


My two cents FWIW - those sports teams, majorette lines, scholar bowl teams or any other extra-cirrcular activity represent the students at that particular school. If you don't go to school there you are not a part of that student body and should not represent that school.

Now if the homeschool people want to get together and form a team and join the ASIA or AHSAA and abide by the rules then go for it.
sorry to nit-pick, but it's AISA (alabama independent school association)
I think you need to do a little research on homeschooling. Not to mention the fact that in one place you say homeschooled kids have to pass standardized tests and then in the next paragraph you say they are held to different standards then kids that are tested. If twenty homeschooled kids take a standardized test and twenty public school kids take a standardized test I don't believe the homeschooled kids are graded any differently than the public school kids. As far as their grade point average the cover school we are under keeps our grades and yes, my child does have a grade point average that is in his records.

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Originally posted by Skeptik:
Another consideration: Home-school kids aren't held to the same grading standards as public.

When the grades of public kids fall below a certrain point they are prevented from participating in a extracurricular program.

Home-schooled kids simply have to pass the standardized tests. No one knows what their current grade point average is.

The fact that they are held to different standards is not fair to the kids who are tested
I think the point about grades that Skeptic was trying to make was that every 9 weeks my kid gets a report card. If she has a "D" or an "F" in any subject then she cannot participate in extracurriculars for the next 9 week grading period. Homeschooled kids aren't taking the same tests, getting the same report cards, etc so therefore they are held to a different grading standard.

Also, the kids in public school are held to a code of conduct. If my daughter gets detention - she can't march that week. Do the homeschooled kids get tardies? If my daughter gets sent home for having on too-short shorts, she cannot march that week. Do the homeschooled kids have a dress code? If my daughter gets sent to the principal for being anything, she cannot march that week and risks being kicked off the line. Do the homeschooled kids get benched for talking back?
I see this has degraded into the usual bashing of home school families. Those evil, anti-social, demented, child abusing, control freaks who whip their children daily and starve them to death!
Yahoo.

Comment on the point of allowing home school kids to participate in sports, not on what you think happens in a home school family.

How about transfer students from another school who waltz in, in the 12th grade, and make Valedictorian? How does that feel? Angry, hurt, not fair, not right?
Luvmypups,

What TSC said.

Lmm,

I don't see the bashing of home-schoolers in this thread. I did note that someone took my "brainwashing academy" reference out of context so let me make it clear: I was not referring to Home-schoolers when I used that term.

I was referring to the folks who send their miscreants to the local bible schools for religious indoctrination, aka, brainwashing.

Those that have jerked their kids out of public schools because of dissatisfaction would be much better served by getting involved rather than unplugging.

I passionately believe that public education is vitally important to our society and nation. Yes, it has problems but the solution is PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT as opposed to running away.

Public schools should not reward those parents who wish to disinvolve themselves from public education.
not really at all LMN
now why do parents home school to begin with?
To have control of WHO their children associate with,keeping them away from bad influences,etc.
To have control on the materials the child studies,parents decide they do not agree with what is being taught by public schools. Now isn't this some of the reasons stated on a previous thread on home schooling? Which is their choice to do so.
Now TSC brought up some things maybe needs to be explained to us.
Do home school children have to adhere to a dress code during schooling hours?
Do home schooled children have set times for class time? This would resolve questions of "tardy" or do it when convienent to everyone.
Valid subjects to consider,when parents have chosen to take this on yet are now wanting the privilages of participating in public school activities,which is what the bill is about. It does not concern who got Valedictorian in a public school.
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Originally posted by smurph:
not really at all LMN
now why do parents home school to begin with?
To have control of WHO their children associate with,keeping them away from bad influences,etc.
To have control on the materials the child studies,parents decide they do not agree with what is being taught by public schools. Now isn't this some of the reasons stated on a previous thread on home schooling? Which is their choice to do so.
Now TSC brought up some things maybe needs to be explained to us.
Do home school children have to adhere to a dress code during schooling hours?
Do home schooled children have set times for class time? This would resolve questions of "tardy" or do it when convienent to everyone.
Valid subjects to consider,when parents have chosen to take this on yet are now wanting the privilages of participating in public school activities,which is what the bill is about. It does not concern who got Valedictorian in a public school.


OK,
In my case, it was a question of unfair treatment by the school administrator who decided to go after my kids because they had a lot of absentees. I had doctors excuses and it still did not matter. We had meeting after meeting and calls from my doctor to no avail.
Now,
Dress code=parents choice. Most home school families have morals so ****tiness is not allowed.
Attendance=Mandatory 145 days for church or private school. Check the Code of Alabama on that one. Attendance is taken.
A daily planner is used by most families.
Grades are given by the parent or the online academy if one enrolls in one.
A transcript is given to the perspective college along with an ACT or SAT score.
Core subjects are required to be taken.

I followed the same subjects taught as the local high school.
If you all think we take our kids out because we all are crazy religious zealots, then please do a little reading.

I believe the point has been resolved. Parents who have thier kids in public school do not want home school kids to participate.
Fair enough.
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I passionately believe that public education is vitally important to our society and nation. Yes, it has problems but the solution is PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT as opposed to running away.


Running away? Greedy? Selfish? Controlling? Lazy? Slacking Off?

All terms used to describe the home school kids and families. Yes, it is bashing and I have been through it before.
Skep, I did not run away, the school pushed me away.
Pretty much the same reason here. I got tired of fighting the system. As far as parental involvement goes the only parental involvement I've seen the school system want is to make sure you pony up for every fundraiser that comes down the pike. The only parents they want involved in any other way are their handpicked choices that cause them no grief. I do think since I've enjoyed the pleasure of actually partaking in all three educational opportunities - private, public and homeschooling I have enough information to know what I'm talking about.

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Originally posted by LMM:
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I passionately believe that public education is vitally important to our society and nation. Yes, it has problems but the solution is PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT as opposed to running away.


Running away? Greedy? Selfish? Controlling? Lazy? Slacking Off?

All terms used to describe the home school kids and families. Yes, it is bashing and I have been through it before.
Skep, I did not run away, the school pushed me away.
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The only parents they want involved in any other way are their handpicked choices that cause them no grief.

Boy, luv, did that bring back memories. I worked my tail off at the elementary, as I said earlier co-Pres of PTO, but when it came to evaluations and forms to be handled, I was told they did not need me. I found out they did not want someone who had a college degree to skew the findings they were putting out. They ignored all parents who had a degree.

SKEP, not everybody gets the opportunity to attend the 'best' high schools. Best always equate to more money spent, and goes back to my original point. This won't pass because as was already mentioned, sports is what forces kids to attend public schools. The AEA is NOT going to let that one go.
This whole entire subject is rearing the heads of greed and selfishness in the PARENTS. Ohhh no their children cannot go to the public schools for whatever the reason,but now for those extracuriculars,,well thats an all together different subject.
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Now there is the entire context the words "greed" and "selfishness" were_used by me. Now answer please in all honesty. Is it not being a bit selfish and greedy by those parents who do home school their children to now want their children to have the perks of participation in the extra-circular activities offered by public schools? Can you not possibly see where we that have sent our children 5 days each week for 6 1/2 hours each day reguardless how it worked for our work schedules,family issues,etc,we sent them. They had to adhere to said schools dress codes,they had to maintain certain behaviors,grades, etc. to be able to participate in activities. Now here comes the group of home schoolers who want their children to be able to participate in sports,cheerleading,band,etc. While all the while if their classes began at 8 am fine,then again it might have been 9:30 or 10 most of the time. Oh and lets not worry about who to pick up the kids,,hey they are already at home!
Whether you want to see it or not,there is a glare of selfishness involved by SOME parents.
I am sure you have your own reasons for home schooling,no ones business but yours. But at the same time, WHY should the very schools that children(spoken in general context ,so drop the defensiveness) were taken out of be forced to allow home school children to show up for the fun things?
Smurph,
To give you an idea of the bashing I and others have endured, how about:
You just want to dump your kids off from 7:30 to 3:00 so you can watch soap operas all day and eat chocolate. You put them is sports so they have to stay after school until 5 or 6 and then make them play ball so on the weekends you can dump them there too. You don't want to discipline them, let the teacher do it, you don't want to think for yourself so let the school give you rules to follow. You hate your kids so keep them away as long as possible. You want to get awards so you can brag to EVERYONE that your darling won an award for showing up. You are living through their awards because your childhood sucked.

Now, does that make you mad? Of course it does. None of it is true, but that is what I got from the other side. I have even been accused of child abuse. Imagine that!
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Originally posted by LMM:
Attendance=Mandatory 145 days for church or private school. Check the Code of Alabama on that one. Attendance is taken.
A daily planner is used by most families.
Grades are given by the parent or the online academy if one enrolls in one.
A transcript is given to the perspective college along with an ACT or SAT score.

Speaking of the Code of Alabama, church schools are exempt from many of the laws pertaining to public schools and to those private or church schools that have opted to be (and have been approved to be) licensed by the state. There are also differences in the laws as they pertain to private schools vs. church schools vs. home schooled children not being taught under an umbrella school representing one of the above. You may want to check the Code for the distinguishing features of those and the laws that pertain to each prior to lumping them together in an example.

Were/are your children home schooled under an umbrella church school?

Church schools are not required to be licensed by the state; licensure application is optional, as is the granting of such a license by the State.

Attendance is mandatory, yes, but are unlicensed church schools and home schooling families working under unlicensed church school umbrellas even required to teach the basic core curriculum of math, science, English, and social studies?
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