It is a shame the lies some people will tell to prove religion has some validity. Fortuately folks aren't as easily fooled any longer. Monotheistic religions are quickly becoming a bad joke old people tell each other. I look forward to the day when belief without proof is generally recognized as a sign of insanity.
quote: Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
 

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!"
-- Patrick Henry


"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."  -- George Washington


"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian."  -- Holy Trinity v. U. S. (Supreme Court case)


"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves ... according to the Ten Commandments of God."   -- James Madison


"Whosoever shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world."   -- Benjamin Franklin


"The principles of all genuine liberty, and of wise laws and administrations are to be drown from the Bible and sustained by its authority. The man therefore who weakens or destroys the divine authority of that book may be assessory to all the public disorders which society is doomed to suffer."   -- Noah Webster


"There are two powers only which are sufficient to control men, and secure the rights of individuals and a peaceable administration; these are the combined force of religion and law, and the force or fear of the bayonet."   -- Noah Webster


"The only assurance of our nation's safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion."  -- Abraham Lincoln


"The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next."   -- Abraham Lincoln


"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or eternal invader."   -- Samuel Adams  [this can be found in Harry Alonzo Cushing, ed., The Writings of Samuel Adams (1908), Vol. 4, p. 124 -- Cliff Walker, May 1, 2002]


"I have always said and always will say that the studious perusal of the Sacred Volume will make us better citizens."   -- Thomas Jefferson


"America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." 
-- Alexis de Tocqueville

What a great list, A list to live by, these men knew what they were talking about and they got it right.


Hi Vic,

 

Those are great quotes from people who knew the foundation of America.  And, Jennifer, you say these quotes are false.  Maybe you need to go back and take a look at American history -- or at the least exercise your Google finger.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Those are great quotes from people who knew the foundation of America.  And, Jennifer, you say these quotes are false.  Maybe you need to go back and take a look at American history -- or at the least exercise your Google finger

 

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Uh bill, I did. How about you exercise that brain of yours, go outside and blow the cobwebs out of it.  Like I said, just because you think that is what they should have said doesn't give you the right to rewrite history and say that is what they said. Got that forrest?

What was Barton's proof for these claims? Many of the quotations he now admits are groundless! At least nine of the 12 were included in Barton's 1989 book, The Myth of Separation, and appeared in the video version, "America's Godly Heritage." Barton was so enamored of one quote supposedly uttered by Benjamin Franklin ("Whosoever shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world.") that it was included on a biographical sketch WallBuilders distributes about Barton, saying it "fully sums up what David believes and teachers." Barton now admits the quote is "questionable" and recommends people don't use it.>>>>>

 

In Barton's later revision of his book, he has omitted the bogus quotes in The Myth of Separation.

 

 

From DA's post. Did you bother to read it bill? Did YOU google?

quote:  Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:
Uh bill, I did. How about you exercise that brain of yours, go outside and blow the cobwebs out of it.  Like I said, just because you think that is what they should have said doesn't give you the right to rewrite history and say that is what they said. Got that forrest? 

Hi Jennifer,

 

All you have to do is to check with the Library of Congress if you do not believe what is posted on historical web sites.  Or, is it just easier for you to hide your head under your blankie and keep declaring, "No, it is not true!  No, they did not say that!" and other inane declarations?

 

Jennifer, believe it or not -- just because you deny it and refuse to believe the historical web sites and historians --  does not make those quotes or other historical facts invalid.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Sheesh bill, we've given you historical link after historical link and still YOU deny it and go right back to insisting they said it. What part of DA's post, reposted below, do you not get??

 

What was Barton's proof for these claims? Many of the quotations he now admits are groundless! At least nine of the 12 were included in Barton's 1989 book, The Myth of Separation, and appeared in the video version, "America's Godly Heritage." Barton was so enamored of one quote supposedly uttered by Benjamin Franklin ("Whosoever shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world.") that it was included on a biographical sketch WallBuilders distributes about Barton, saying it "fully sums up what David believes and teachers." Barton now admits the quote is "questionable" and recommends people don't use it.>>>>>

 

In Barton's later revision of his book, he has omitted the bogus quotes in The Myth of Separation.

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