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Originally Posted by INVICTUS:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Vic and Rram,

 

The unforgivable sin, blaspheming the Holy Spirit -- is not speaking against God, Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit.  The unforgivable sin is to die while still denying God.  Why is this called blaspheming the Holy Spirit?  Because the Holy Spirit's function is two fold:  To indwell and guide, teach, convict the believer -- and to lead those who are not yet believers -- into the arms of Jesus Christ. 

 So, when a person dies while still denying Christ -- he/she has ignored the Holy Spirit, denying Him the chance to do the task He was given -- to bring souls to saving grace in Jesus Christ.  By refusing to follow the calling of the Holy Spirit -- a person blasphemes Him.  And, if the person does this until he has breathed his last breath in this mortal body -- there is no forgiveness; for there is no second chance after this life to be saved.

 That person has condemned himself/herself to eternal hell.

 

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The real unforgivable sin is you tell this little story for the millionth

and one time. 

 

I thought the real unforgivable sin was wearing white shoes after Labor Day. **** you Christians, this is getting very confusing.

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Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:

Without meddling in other people's business, Christians wouldn't have anything to do. They are harmless. Leave them alone.

 

Christians have screwed up millions of people. They are far from harmless. We should fight them with every shred of our being.

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Just how big a shred are you??

 

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Here is the thing. YOUR bible says its a sin. YOUR bible says homosexuals are going to hell. So I suggest that YOU not participate in any homosexual practices. Otherwise stay out of everyone elses business.

 

If you truly believe in your god then why not let him judge when ever the great rapture/judgement day happens? Isn't that HIS job?

 

 

Are you retarded too?

Originally Posted by Opie Cunningham:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:

Without meddling in other people's business, Christians wouldn't have anything to do. They are harmless. Leave them alone.

 

Christians have screwed up millions of people. They are far from harmless. We should fight them with every shred of our being.

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Op genius, let’s say you were successful in fighting Christians until there were zero left; would there be any laws you would change?

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

Love :0

I don’t think love has anything to do with it. I lov’em all as fellow humans, even unoi. But I am not going to subscribe to their psychological constipation. The fact is: they are sojourners in this Earth because of a belief in God by the majority. An atheistic society would be exponentially chaotic and would destroy itself within ten years or less

A good example of this is the change that happened to SOCIETY , armed to the hilt with laws, during the invasion of beatniks . The Earth would be one huge WOODSTOCK.

One need only to imagine what a world full of jenns, unois, jimbos, Adots, and opies would be like.

I think the deepfats, darknagles, and hush pups would be too lazy to raise a hand in defense of common sense.

Within a year of a take-over by the neck beards most all the women were the victims of multiple rapes. Some children and few old people were spared from the sudden breakdown in society. The children from being hidden or sheer luck the old people by just simply dying from watching the elimination of candidates down to them. The really pitiful sight was the mentally challenged and handicapped men and women who were violated in drunken and drug induced forums of sport.

Within nine months there was a population explosion of babies who were not aborted earlier by self uterus gouging to assisted miscarriage by simply yanking the fetus out by main-strength and awkwardness by some fool looking for pleasure.

Very little patience for any motherly sympathy for a baby because doing so would surely mean rations of food would be with held from a dwindling supply since the neck beards were interested in carnality and no attention to preservation by raising crops for the future.

When the food reserves became critical the neck beards were forced to eat the newborn babies that were appearing daily in non-stop fashion.

There was no service industry left, no concern for infrastructure, the utilities were in shambles. The banks had all been robbed by the neck beards but currency was of little use.

Then came the winters. No preparation for food or shelter. The houses had long been torn down or burned when spring thaw had finally come and the population was reduced by at least fifty percent after the first year.

Disease ran rampant starvation and lawlessness was the order of the day. No schools or churches since religion was vanquished and anyone advocating a belief in God was buried alive in mass graves until the neck beards abandoned their bulldozers for rape and pillage. What few believers left were either murdered as sport or died from starvation.

Before too long, maybe five there wasn’t a single neck beard alive. The screaming, cursing, wailing and greedy conversation was silent.

Many animals not Sodomized or killed survived. Creeping things fowls of the air and fish were all that was left. The neck beards had been succeeded.

Originally Posted by Bo Doe:
Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

Love :0

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Your not from around here are you?

 

DGM

Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

From my perspective Christ is Love perfected that a God/Deity would humble Himself (if a Spirit being as I believe God is) to take on human flesh form in order to provide an except from the penalty of a sinful nature.   Do you not also realize that many Christians are very aware that they have to fight to overcome stereotypes just as any members of any group have stereotypes to overcome.  People that judge them by their association with a belief or based upon actions of another person and not simply accept us for who we are.  As a Christian I fully believe God wants us (Christians) to view others as I believe God does meaning as a spirit (inner soul) that has no color, no sex, or no nationality.  As for condemning people I do not do that for I don't know anyone but myself well enough to judge anyone.  While there are Christians who will condemn you or judge you not all Christians are that way and to address all of us as we do is as unfair to us as those that do it to you. 

Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

 

 

Wow some of the Christians on here even took offense to this post.

 

Warrior if they all thought like you I think we could co-exist in this world a lot easier. Good for you for trying to represent what you believe to be true in a kind and loving manner. You probably won't get much respect from many of the Christians on this forum for that kind of attitude (as you have already seen) but I for one can respect you for your non-bigotry stance. I might not agree with you on what you believe but I can respect your right to believe it and practice it without harming or infringing on others.

Originally Posted by gbrk:
Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

From my perspective Christ is Love perfected that a God/Deity would humble Himself (if a Spirit being as I believe God is) to take on human flesh form in order to provide an except from the penalty of a sinful nature.   Do you not also realize that many Christians are very aware that they have to fight to overcome stereotypes just as any members of any group have stereotypes to overcome.  People that judge them by their association with a belief or based upon actions of another person and not simply accept us for who we are.  As a Christian I fully believe God wants us (Christians) to view others as I believe God does meaning as a spirit (inner soul) that has no color, no sex, or no nationality.  As for condemning people I do not do that for I don't know anyone but myself well enough to judge anyone.  While there are Christians who will condemn you or judge you not all Christians are that way and to address all of us as we do is as unfair to us as those that do it to you. 

 

 

 

Did warrior strike a nerve there GB? Did you notice the use of the word "many" in their post? I thought you told me some time back that if you use that word then no one should think you are lumping all of one group together. I guess that only applies to you and a few others eh?

Not at all the use of many could apply to anything give the number of people in any group and given human nature should apply.  I hope Warrior didn't think I took offense like you seemed to think.  My post to them was to say that Christians are also not immune to people stereotyping them based upon the actions of other Christians that do openly judge people based on their own biases.  Some are Judgmental so therefore we all are classified as judgmental. 

 

Why would you assume I had a never stuck?  The only nerve that I remember being struck or twisted was when I dared ask, just ask, the Times Daily to clarify what the Religion forum was for.  You Atheist turned that request to clarify into some attempt to turn the Religion forum into a Christian only forum.  A complete deception.  The atheist also had the same reaction or more when I dared to ask why atheist would even want or desire to post in a forum targeted for something they don't believe in.  No I thought Warriors post reflects that opinion that many have and was an accurate post with the exception that I do not believe that Christians Hate others but I fully believe that is the impression many get.

 

I must have hit at least one nerve in some atheist for y'all sure spend a lot of time trying to critique my post and then turning them into something they are not.

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Not at all the use of many could apply to anything give the number of people in any group and given human nature should apply.  I hope Warrior didn't think I took offense like you seemed to think.  My post to them was to say that Christians are also not immune to people stereotyping them based upon the actions of other Christians that do openly judge people based on their own biases.  Some are Judgmental so therefore we all are classified as judgmental. 

 

Why would you assume I had a never stuck?  The only nerve that I remember being struck or twisted was when I dared ask, just ask, the Times Daily to clarify what the Religion forum was for.  You Atheist turned that request to clarify into some attempt to turn the Religion forum into a Christian only forum.  A complete deception.  The atheist also had the same reaction or more when I dared to ask why atheist would even want or desire to post in a forum targeted for something they don't believe in.  No I thought Warriors post reflects that opinion that many have and was an accurate post with the exception that I do not believe that Christians Hate others but I fully believe that is the impression many get.

 

I must have hit at least one nerve in some atheist for y'all sure spend a lot of time trying to critique my post and then turning them into something they are not.

 

 

GB here is what you said:

 

"While there are Christians who will condemn you or judge you not all Christians are that way and to address all of us as we do is as unfair to us as those that do it to you."

 

You said that warrior was being unfair did you not? Do you forget what you write immediately? Maybe you just want it interpreted in some strange and different way that none of the rest of us understand.

 

You also said this:

 

"Not at all the use of many could apply to anything give the number of people in any group and given human nature should apply."

 

What the hell are you talking about? That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Many means many. I assume that warrior wasn't trying to be cryptic in anyway when they used the word. What they didn't do was say ALL which is what you accused them of doing.

 

I sincerely want to encourage Christians that have the attitude warrior has. If I am forced to live in a world with believers I would appreciate if more of you thought as warrior does in that post.  

Oh and GB what are you talking about with the rest of that rambling? When did you try and get the forums to make this a Christian Forum only?

 

Not surprised really. I know you are always whining about us atheist not respecting your religion and talking negatively about it. How dare we have any opinion on the subject at all.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:
Originally Posted by Warrior43232:

Love is what God and Jesus Christ is all about.  The challenge on this earth is to love everyone and not judge a soul.  Many Christians spend too much time trying to change people instead of just loving them.   Loving EVERYONE will bring more people to God.  By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian? Who would want to be associated with Sinners (we are all sinners) that think they are better than others?  

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  

 

Help bring people to God, then let God do all the work of convicting their hearts.  Point fingers and showing your knowledge of the Bible is only turning people away!

 

Love and God Bless You All!

 

 

Wow some of the Christians on here even took offense to this post.

 

Warrior if they all thought like you I think we could co-exist in this world a lot easier. Good for you for trying to represent what you believe to be true in a kind and loving manner. You probably won't get much respect from many of the Christians on this forum for that kind of attitude (as you have already seen) but I for one can respect you for your non-bigotry stance. I might not agree with you on what you believe but I can respect your right to believe it and practice it without harming or infringing on others.

 

 

What part of this did you miss Mr atheist?

 

Christians instead of wasting time trying to win this debate… do what Jesus would do and get off the computer and go out into the streets and preach God’s love not condemnation.  


Aint that what yall beech about so much? Just quit

lying about it.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:
Originally Posted by gbrk:

Not at all the use of many could apply to anything give the number of people in any group and given human nature should apply.  I hope Warrior didn't think I took offense like you seemed to think.  My post to them was to say that Christians are also not immune to people stereotyping them based upon the actions of other Christians that do openly judge people based on their own biases.  Some are Judgmental so therefore we all are classified as judgmental. 

 

Why would you assume I had a never stuck?  The only nerve that I remember being struck or twisted was when I dared ask, just ask, the Times Daily to clarify what the Religion forum was for.  You Atheist turned that request to clarify into some attempt to turn the Religion forum into a Christian only forum.  A complete deception.  The atheist also had the same reaction or more when I dared to ask why atheist would even want or desire to post in a forum targeted for something they don't believe in.  No I thought Warriors post reflects that opinion that many have and was an accurate post with the exception that I do not believe that Christians Hate others but I fully believe that is the impression many get.

 

I must have hit at least one nerve in some atheist for y'all sure spend a lot of time trying to critique my post and then turning them into something they are not.

 

 

GB here is what you said:

 

"While there are Christians who will condemn you or judge you not all Christians are that way and to address all of us as we do is as unfair to us as those that do it to you."

 

You said that warrior was being unfair did you not? Do you forget what you write immediately? Maybe you just want it interpreted in some strange and different way that none of the rest of us understand.

 

You also said this:

 

"Not at all the use of many could apply to anything give the number of people in any group and given human nature should apply."

 

What the hell are you talking about? That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Many means many. I assume that warrior wasn't trying to be cryptic in anyway when they used the word. What they didn't do was say ALL which is what you accused them of doing.

 

I sincerely want to encourage Christians that have the attitude warrior has. If I am forced to live in a world with believers I would appreciate if more of you thought as warrior does in that post.  

I'm sure you like it when anyone condemns Christians in general no matter where it comes from.  I've said it's wrong for Christians to be judgmental and when I wrote what I did I was specifically writing in response to the following that was in their initial post:

 

By condemning people and judging them, you are only driving people away from God and are NOT living a Godly example.  You quote Bible verses in support of your HATE, but really...how is that being a good Christian?

 

I didn't take it that they were talking specifically to me and I wasn't speaking specifically to them but to all or any who might judge all Christians by the negative activities of some.  Do you not react when people make judgments on "all atheist" based upon a small sample or a few?  If Warrior took exception to my post I'll gladly apologize to them for that but I will not to you.  Are you here trying to stir something up? 

 

As for my line you said made no sense quite possibly I didn't check it before posting but it related to your pointing out that they used the word "Many" in the first post The line should have read: "Not at all.  The use of many could apply to anything, given the number of people that are in any group and given the way human nature is.  maybe that clarifies it a bit better for your reading.  If though you are trying to correct everyone that post here and happens to either run words together or misspell something then you must really have too much time on your hands.  My tying skills may not be the best or perfection but I will try to correct it. 

 

TAKE NOTE:  I will say I'm sorry when I do wrong or make a mistake.  I will correct something UNLIKE some atheist on here who have no care for what they do as long as it effects a Christian or someone they esteem lower than they are. You will never see an apology or correction from them. 

 

So regarding your attempts to call me to task on this subject or believing that I have said something offending to Warrior just what are you trying to accomplish here DarkAngel what are your motives here?

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Oh and GB what are you talking about with the rest of that rambling? When did you try and get the forums to make this a Christian Forum only?

 

Not surprised really. I know you are always whining about us atheist not respecting your religion and talking negatively about it. How dare we have any opinion on the subject at all.

First off I did not and have not.  It was posted as if I had though under another subject (Atheist have Proven God Does Not Exist. Right?).  My assertion was that there are some people that come into the religion forum for one motivation only and that is to be disruptive to any Christian Subject or to Christians who post and comment.  If you are trying to say there are not any atheist that do that and that 90% of their post are not demeaning in nature toward Christian forum members then you are either not being honest or just don't care.  There are many times that the atheist do exactly what they accuse Christians of doing, specifically that is being judgmental or making conclusions based upon their own biases.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Here is the thing. YOUR bible says its a sin. YOUR bible says homosexuals are going to hell. So I suggest that YOU not participate in any homosexual practices. Otherwise stay out of everyone elses business.

 

If you truly believe in your god then why not let him judge when ever the great rapture/judgement day happens? Isn't that HIS job?


Here is the other thing DarkAngel since we are being accurate here.  Above is a post you made under this subject.  Kindly show us where a statement you made is?  I have highlighted it above in what you typed.  See I think you are wrong so I'd like to find that place in the Bible that it says what you say it does.

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