I decided to do some of my own research on the subject and found this:
http://www.glade.com/fragrance-oils/#rumor
If anyone here is close to the family and the fire marshall determines that an air freshener was the culprit, they need to take certain steps to preserve the evidence. And under NO circumstances should they turn the product over to the manufacturer. If any testing is done on the product, it needs to be at an independent lab that all parties agree on. The product needs to be undisturbed and protected until then. Just an FYI.
I knew the mother of this child & several years ago she said that the very 1st fire that they had was possibly caused by these plug in things. You would think after one fire these would not be used in their house anymore. I know I personally stopped using them in my house because of what she told me.
quote:Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I understood the article to say there was or were smoke detector/s, just not in the child's bedroom where the fire started. The fire marshall, I think it was Bobby Malone, stated that everyone should install detectors in each bedroom. I will add that carbon monoxide detectors should be a must-have also--although I don't have one of those right now. The mother said the four year-old awoke her, so the detectors may not have been working.
Thanks for reminding me! I have never thought about putting a detector in my children's bedrooms. Of course, we have them hard wired in the house, but I will put one in the bedrooms for sure. Yes, we also have a carbon monoxide detectors, I would also urge everyone to get one of these. I had never thought about the need in one until we had problems with our HVAC unit and the serviceman brought it to our attention.
I did not know the child was austistic. That would make a big big differance in his response to the fire. That would explain why he didn't cry out if he was awake.
Has anyone heard any updates on this story?
quote:Originally posted by Stinky Inc.:
Has anyone heard any updates on this story?
I heard that the mother has just been arrested about the fire. According to my sources, the fire started underneath the boy's mattress.
quote:Originally posted by j_land:quote:Originally posted by Stinky Inc.:
Has anyone heard any updates on this story?
j_land quote
I heard that the mother has just been arrested about the fire. According to my sources, the fire started underneath the boy's mattress.
Lets hope not ,that'd be so sad
I had heard thru the Russellville grapevine(we all know how those go) it had determined as arson,but had not heard anything about the mother being arrested.
Boy aint that something !!! lets hope she didnt do that to her own child . 
Apparently the fire marshall knew the fire was no accident from the first; however, it was my personal belief that the child set it himself.
Does anyone know anything other than gossip? The mother may be in a state of denial that her child could have killed himself.
Does anyone know anything other than gossip? The mother may be in a state of denial that her child could have killed himself.
I have a cousin who is autistic. I'm told smoke detectors are standard for bedrooms of autistic children since they will almost always hide in closet or bathroom when there is a fire.
According to emergency personnel that were on the scene the night of the fire:
She has not been arrested, but things are definitely headed in that direction. Many of her statements and/or actions that night simply didn't add up, which aroused the suspicions of the responders.
It was not electrical, air freshener or otherwise. It was set - the accelerant (sp?) has been found and identified.
She has not been arrested, but things are definitely headed in that direction. Many of her statements and/or actions that night simply didn't add up, which aroused the suspicions of the responders.
It was not electrical, air freshener or otherwise. It was set - the accelerant (sp?) has been found and identified.
This case if far from over. I can assure you that Little Mason did not play with fire, nor did Noah! They would not have started this fire. We will know the truth soon enough. The person responsible for this knows what happened and will be punished! We need to remember the family in our prayers and the long days ahead. They are hurting!!!!
quote:Originally posted by j_land:
I heard that the mother has just been arrested about the fire. According to my sources, the fire started underneath the boy's mattress.
i heard the mother was being investigated because the story didn't add up but i haven't heard about her being arrested. I have been moving and working a lot though so i am not sure but it looks like one if not all the local stations would be talking about it if she had been arrested.
Does anyone have an update about this fire?
I feel so bad for the family. I do not know them personally, but after reading the posts it is clear that they need our prayers. It is sad and scary to think that the mom may have been involved-I pray that isn't the case....
I feel so bad for the family. I do not know them personally, but after reading the posts it is clear that they need our prayers. It is sad and scary to think that the mom may have been involved-I pray that isn't the case....
I was hoping it wasn't going to come to this because it really breaks my heart for the family.
Any updates . . . besides gossip?
I have not heard any updates on this story either, Does anyone know anything besides rumors?
It just seems to be all rumors. People like to talk. Even at the cost of a family's tradegy. Shame on you people for talking about this family like this, what if there no arrest. Are you going to apologize online? Do you even know these people?
quote:Originally posted by Layla1:
It just seems to be all rumors. People like to talk. Even at the cost of a family's tradegy. Shame on you people for talking about this family like this, what if there no arrest. Are you going to apologize online? Do you even know these people?
I've heard from a very reputable source that these are not rumors.
quote:Originally posted by Layla1:
It just seems to be all rumors. People like to talk. Even at the cost of a family's tradegy. Shame on you people for talking about this family like this, what if there no arrest. Are you going to apologize online? Do you even know these people?
3 fires in 8 years WOW a lot of people don't have 1 fire in their whole lifetime. Why wouldn't she try to get out Mason...even if she don't get arrested judgement day will come one day. Also I am sure she'll have nightmares and thoughts of that child forever!!
If I had a fire in my home, I would want to know what caused it and would take extra precautions to make sure that it did not happen again. If I had a fire during the night, I would be scared to sleep. If it occurred while I was away, I would always be second guessing myself to make sure that I had the dryer, iron, range, heaters off, candles out. etc.
I can see someone having an accidental fire in their home and based on the quality of some of the local housing, maybe 2 in their lifetime which is way past the national average. But when you get to two or more, someone needs to do some serious looking as to what is occurring.
I can see someone having an accidental fire in their home and based on the quality of some of the local housing, maybe 2 in their lifetime which is way past the national average. But when you get to two or more, someone needs to do some serious looking as to what is occurring.
I agree but if the first fire was 8 years ago, wasn't that before the autistic child was born? I would say the woman may have more mental problems of a permanent nature than just a wish to get of a child that's a burden.
Think before you talk, next it be one of your family members in the paper. I would think if their were going to be arrest, they would done by now. GIVE IT A REST PEOPLE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by ShugaPush:
I agree but if the first fire was 8 years ago, wasn't that before the autistic child was born? I would say the woman may have more mental problems of a permanent nature than just a wish to get of a child that's a burden.
Maybe your the one with mental problems
Please stop all the speculating & childish stuff. No matter what happened here a family's life has been destroyed. Even if the mom did have something to do with it there are a lot of family members & friends of this precious little boy that HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. & they still need to be in our thoughts & prayers............
Please also remember all the firefighters, emergency personnel, & investigators, they are also having a hard time dealing with this case, most of them involved knew the entire family.........
Please also remember all the firefighters, emergency personnel, & investigators, they are also having a hard time dealing with this case, most of them involved knew the entire family.........
quote:Originally posted by Layla1:
Maybe your the one with mental problems
I think you meant to say "you're," not your. This aside, anyone who has had three or more fires in eight years does have some kind of problem. It might be with someone else, it might be with a child, it might be with his or her own perception of reality (I can leave a candle burning close to a drapery because God will take care of me). I agree with SP that since the fire marshal found accelerant, there is a problem somewhere. I have said before that I assumed it was the child himself. Autistic children are often fascinated with fire. If it wasn't the child, as several have said, it was someone else--someone else who needs to be punished and stopped from further arsons. Instead of finding fault with SP, if you do care for this family, you should be encouraging authorities to finish their investigation.
Nobody knows what happened that night.
If you do, you need to call the authorities.
The rest of us, can hope and pray for the support of the family and for the truth to come to light.
And, please, everyone, please remember that regardless of the circumstances, this country is founded on the fact that we are innocent until proven guilty.
That is one of the key things about our country that we can be proud of...can we join in our patriotism and just seek the truth here...everyone's hurt, nobody wins.
If you do, you need to call the authorities.
The rest of us, can hope and pray for the support of the family and for the truth to come to light.
And, please, everyone, please remember that regardless of the circumstances, this country is founded on the fact that we are innocent until proven guilty.
That is one of the key things about our country that we can be proud of...can we join in our patriotism and just seek the truth here...everyone's hurt, nobody wins.
I know a little about the court systems since I've worked with victims. Franklin County doesn't have a grand jury every month.
The next grand jury will be presented the case if there is one. They just didn't have anything else to arrest anyone on, so she/he is free for now.
To say there was no crime because there was no arrest is not logical.
The next grand jury will be presented the case if there is one. They just didn't have anything else to arrest anyone on, so she/he is free for now.
To say there was no crime because there was no arrest is not logical.
Who said there wasn't a crime? Who said there was a crime? There was a severely tragic incident.
The point being made to call it an "incident", until the authorities deem it an "accident", or a "crime".
That is a simple, logical, and appropriate way to treat the situation.
The point being made to call it an "incident", until the authorities deem it an "accident", or a "crime".
That is a simple, logical, and appropriate way to treat the situation.
quote:Originally posted by pain&panicsmom:
Please stop all the speculating & childish stuff. No matter what happened here a family's life has been destroyed. Even if the mom did have something to do with it there are a lot of family members & friends of this precious little boy that HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. & they still need to be in our thoughts & prayers............
Please also remember all the firefighters, emergency personnel, & investigators, they are also having a hard time dealing with this case, most of them involved knew the entire family.........
I agree the family needs prayer but the mother needs a therapist!!
Yes the child was not born 8 years ago but some people just want attention and/or money!
Layla if this case is that close to home for you then go help these people, hire a lawyer for mommy dearest, or make her an appointment at Riverbend and quit telling the people on the forums,which have a right to our own opinion what to do!!
The problem isn't about having an opinion. That is your right, as you said.
The problem, is that it is rude, inappropriate, gossipy, and downright wrong that people are making conjecture about things they don't know.
You also have the right to be quiet about things you don't know about, or things in which you don't have all the facts.
But, as it seems here... it must be more fun to talk about the most tragic events in the lives of others, even when you don't know all the facts.
How easy it is to accuse someone of a serious crime when you are just typing on your keyboard.
This isn't TV.
We seem to forget about the 'right to keep our trap shut when its the right thing to do'.
The problem, is that it is rude, inappropriate, gossipy, and downright wrong that people are making conjecture about things they don't know.
You also have the right to be quiet about things you don't know about, or things in which you don't have all the facts.
But, as it seems here... it must be more fun to talk about the most tragic events in the lives of others, even when you don't know all the facts.
How easy it is to accuse someone of a serious crime when you are just typing on your keyboard.
This isn't TV.
We seem to forget about the 'right to keep our trap shut when its the right thing to do'.
Evidentally some forget that we have a "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" It's ok if you disagree but if you don't like my opinion ignore me...simple!!
Demonstration of Free Speech is an American Right, and is protected, I will listen to what you have to say, whether I agree or not.
Personal discipline to restrain oneself from inaccurate and inappropriate speech is an indication of class. Particularly in this case, people's lives are at stake.
"Even a fool is reckoned with the wise when kept silent" Paraphrased from Proverbs
I'll take your advice and ignore you.
Personal discipline to restrain oneself from inaccurate and inappropriate speech is an indication of class. Particularly in this case, people's lives are at stake.
"Even a fool is reckoned with the wise when kept silent" Paraphrased from Proverbs
I'll take your advice and ignore you.
Fact: Third house fire for family in 8 years.
Fact: Father was out of town.
Fact: No smoke detector in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal said fire started in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal brough in accelerant sniffing dog.
Fact: Fire Marshal says fire still under investigation.
Fact: TD placed story in "Crime section".
Is that what you wanted, x-ray?
Fact: Father was out of town.
Fact: No smoke detector in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal said fire started in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal brough in accelerant sniffing dog.
Fact: Fire Marshal says fire still under investigation.
Fact: TD placed story in "Crime section".
Is that what you wanted, x-ray?
Yep.
2 HOUSE FIRES
quote:Originally posted by TheFox:
Fact: Third house fire for family in 8 years.
Fact: Father was out of town.
Fact: No smoke detector in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal said fire started in dead child's room.
Fact: Fire Marshal brough in accelerant sniffing dog.
Fact: Fire Marshal says fire still under investigation.
Fact: TD placed story in "Crime section".
Is that what you wanted, x-ray?
where did you get all your info?