House Passes Bill, Ban Funding of Abortions

Stop funding their abortions and they might have to start using that free b/c we pay for.

Hobby lobby sells coat hangers and assorted wires.

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You assume that these people are intelligent and utilize foresight.  What you will end up with is a much more expensive problem and a much higher crime rate. 

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But see, you are doing it here, too.  And how are you going to force them to support their own kids when their only source of income is the "gimmethat offices"?

One thing's for sure, the application of liberal band-aids over the last 60

years has cost more than this country will ever  survive.......

This is just an extension of policy for over a decade

But see, you are doing it here, too.  And how are you going to force them to support their own kids when their only source of income is the "gimmethat offices"?

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Doing what here too? And I didn't say you could force them, I said stop paying them and they MIGHT think twice, and if they can be made to support their own kids. I think if you stop paying them for their irresponsible behavior they will have to stop it and find something else to do besides run down to the gimmethat offices with their hands stuck out. When did it become OK to be on the government dole not because you have to be, but because you can?

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I can read fine, so no need to repeat everything you said. 

But, you did it again, you are assuming that those people will use common sense, foresight, and exercise some sort of personal responsibility.  They won't.  And developing policy based on the idea that they might is a no-starter.

Here is something for you to consider, Best:  Link

You only have to read the first paragraph to get the gist.  For some reason I can't copy it here, and I'm too lazy to type it over.

Which will cost the US taxpayer more in real $$$?  Abortion or the crime it prevents?

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I believe you are referring to the Hyde Amendment that has been in existence since 1976. I believe it only applied to medicaid though.

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I believe I have read that about abortion, but I believe more researchers give more credit to the aging boomers growing out of the thug age, growing prison populations from the increase in prisons along with stiffer sentences, and the worst of the crack era winding down:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9710/04/.../index.html?_s=PM:US

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You might be interested in this, then:  LINK

While I don't doubt the FBI's numbers, I don't trust their analysis.  Here is evidence of why.

The only simple counter argument I can see to the abortion study is that in the beginning mostly middle and upper class white teens and young adults had abortions while poorer mothers wanted the additional welfare money so I don't see where abortions impacted the 90's so much. It didn't impact the street culture raised unwanted child as much as the orphanage/adoption agency bound child.

  I believe in the 90's family caps appeared and poorer women increased the use of abortions. We should be seeing an impact now from the aborted unwanted children not raised in the street culture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2008092202831.html

I can read fine, so no need to repeat everything you said. 

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Whatever. I just don't happen to like being forced/blackmailed/coerced, or whatever else you want to call it, into paying for someone else's bad choices. Let them sink or swim on their own.

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 House Republicans know that the legislation will not get through the Senate.  The bill is symbolic only, just like the numerous House bills to revoke the Affordable Care Act.

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This is a horrible thing to say, even jokingly. I hope you ladies on here will report this to the mods, I did.

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So, when one of their bad decisions is to have a child and not take care of it, you will do nothing for the child? 

You're not interested in a solution.

I believe the solution is mostly in place, and the numbers show that to be so. 

But if by "solution" you mean "do nothing", then in this case, you are correct.  "Let them eat cake," said Best.

What solution is in place? Throwing more money at it and putting more and more on the government dole that fewer and fewer are contributing to?  Eat cake? No, I will tell them to get off my back.  We raised and paid for our kids, and still have to pay for their college. I don't have any desire to raise yours that will be just as useless as you are while you lay your a** up and make more of them. Like I said, take your lazy *** down and get that free bc. Now, all of the bleeding hearts can make of that what they want, I don't care anymore. This PC crap has gotten us no where but in a mess we will never dig out of. "Give us your money, you worked for it but you shouldn't get to keep it. This one with the 10 kids by 10 different fathers that don't pay a dime in support needs it" says crusty.

I haven't said anything about "the government dole".

On the one hand you are against funding for abortions and birth control, while on the other you say, get down there and get your free birth control.

On the one hand you are against government funding for abortions and birth control, and on the other you are against having to deal with the problems such short-sightedness leads to.

As for the "parents" and progenitors, I'm all for Clinton's requirement to get a job for those wanting welfare. 

And Best, you aren't the only person that pays taxes.

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I got that first paragraph rat cheer!

"We offer evidence that legalized abortion has contributed signiŽcantly to recent crime reductions. Crime began to fall roughly eighteen years after abortion legalization. The Žve states that allowed abortion in 1970 experienced declines earlier than the rest of the nation, which legalized in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. States with high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s experienced greater crime reductions in the 1990s. In high abortion states, only arrests of those born after abortion legalization fall relative to low abortion states. Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime."

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Pure liberal thinking.

Pay us or we will breed even more criminals than we do now. Nothing wrong with that now is it?  And don't you dare mention the thousands of scams we're running on you or the child molesters PP supports. And, what has all your "got it right cheer" have to do with the millions they are still having that we are expected to support from cradle to grave? So, I am forced to repeat.

Whatever. I just don't happen to like being forced/blackmailed/coerced, or whatever else you want to call it, into paying for someone else's bad choices. Let them sink or swim on their own.

Not liberal thinking, just a logical evaluation of real numbers. 

54 million legal murders. Man said, thou shalt kill, if victim is unborn or born

and in need of assistance to die. That's just the ones in America. 

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Best, whenever she can't cope with the facts, just blithers out some generalized, opinionated pap, hoping to hose the ignorami.

Another worthless legislative gesture by pandering, demagoging Republicans who know that bill does not have a chance in a million of becoming law..

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I don't know which report got prissy, but I'm glad he's gone!