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Trump released his conversations now Pence is going the same.  You can just see it now, in the backrooms of Washington's democratic elite and the media backrooms people rubbing their hands together all giddy with thoughts that maybe they could get rid of Trump and Pence at the same time and thus promote Nancy Pelosi to President.  Forget elections, as they would prefer to do when they can't win, achieve power by any way possible.  You get them giddy by getting them to think that they can get the Presidency by other than elections, by deception and by sleazy methods, something they know all too well how to do.

The Media is lockstep in line behind the Democrats as they go berserk over Trump saying he won't participate in this farce anymore.  What they leave out is why Trump said it.  Trump wants to call their hand and have them do things in a way that Democrats don't like to do them ... legit.  Democrats, for their part, want to keep everything secret and behind doors where they control 100% of what's released to the public and only their side of the story gets out.  Trump wants to force a vote for Impeachment such that he will be afforded the rights and protections that the Constitution gives any citizen so he can face his accuser.  Democrats are hiding behind the term Whistleblower but compare these whistleblowers to real past whistleblowers.  For one true whistleblower always are known and are out there at risk to their own jobs and future in order to get the offense out in the open.  The current "Political" whistleblowers hide in obscurity and where we are forced to take known lying politicians like Adam Schiff's, with an ax to grind, word on the matter.  

I would say that anyone can see that this is yet another faux attempt to hurt Donald Trump, just like the Russian Collusion that you never hear about anymore since they burnt that candle out, now they feel they have new life in obscure and unknown whistleblowers whose stories are crafted carefully by people out to get Donald Trump at any cost and just like any other accusers (except those who accuse Democrats, as in Virginia) have to be believed regardless of  their personal interest in the equation.  

You know with the help and piling on of the national media I do believe that they (Media and Democrats) are having an effect on Trump's support base as they are succeeding in convincing people that something is there when all they are really doing is preventing Trump from governing as he was elected to do.  I haven't always agreed with every move Trump has made including his most recent move to yank the forces out of Syria leaving the Kurds at the mercy of the Turks who have none (mercy that is) and are facing almost certain annihilation due to Trump's orders to withdraw American forces that were there protecting them.  I think this will actually be a stain on Trump's otherwise steller Presidency and actually will be done by his own doing rather than by the Democrats and his enemies.  

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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L. Cranston posted:

Republicans already can't let go of 'Hillary'... can you imagine the response, from Republicans, if President Obama had said 'Oh Hillary, you don't have to honor a Congressional subpoena. Don't worry about it.' Republican's head would explode. Isn't it time Republicans put America first and the GOP second.

Isn't it time you stopped stomping around in your BS, it's grown cold
and the Bull is just as dead as the horse you rode in on...... gripo

 

Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Republicans already can't let go of 'Hillary'... can you imagine the response, from Republicans, if President Obama had said 'Oh Hillary, you don't have to honor a Congressional subpoena. Don't worry about it.' Republican's head would explode. Isn't it time Republicans put America first and the GOP second.

Isn't it time you stopped stomping around in your BS, it's grown cold
and the Bull is just as dead as the horse you rode in on...... gripo

 

I didn't see his response until I saw it in your quoted reply but looking back at my initial post  I'm wondering where Hillary was brought up?  Oh that's right it wasn't me it was him that injected her name into this thread and then complained about "Republicans" already can't let go of Hillary.  Is this another Democrat blaming Republicans for doing the things that they are doing?  Actually, Hillary is still relevant because she continues to inject herself into the conversation if not by resurrecting every excuse possible as to why she lost to speculation or hints that she might run again.  Simply She won't go away so she's still relevant.  Also there is the case of past precedents so let's, for instance, say Trump did what is being alleged and let's also say what he did was illegal then keeping with the SAME defense that Hillary was afforded He (Trump) should be let go and not prosecuted or impeached because I'm sure hedidn't intend to do anything wrong.

After all ... the now Hillary Defense -->. No Intent = No Offense or

No Intent = No Prosecution. 

Or is that ONLY for Democrats?

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gbrk posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Republicans already can't let go of 'Hillary'... can you imagine the response, from Republicans, if President Obama had said 'Oh Hillary, you don't have to honor a Congressional subpoena. Don't worry about it.' Republican's head would explode. Isn't it time Republicans put America first and the GOP second.

Isn't it time you stopped stomping around in your BS, it's grown cold
and the Bull is just as dead as the horse you rode in on...... gripo

 

I didn't see his response until I saw it in your quoted reply but looking back at my initial post  I'm wondering where Hillary was brought up?  Oh that's right it wasn't me it was him that injected her name into this thread and then complained about "Republicans" already can't let go of Hillary.  Is this another Democrat blaming Republicans for doing the things that they are doing?  Actually, Hillary is still relevant because she continues to inject herself into the conversation if not by resurrecting every excuse possible as to why she lost to speculation or hints that she might run again.  Simply She won't go away so she's still relevant.  Also there is the case of past precedents so let's, for instance, say Trump did what is being alleged and let's also say what he did was illegal then keeping with the SAME defense that Hillary was afforded He (Trump) should be let go and not prosecuted or impeached because I'm sure hedidn't intend to do anything wrong.

After all ... the now Hillary Defense -->. No Intent = No Offense or

No Intent = No Prosecution. 

Or is that ONLY for Democrats?

It's for people who testify before Congress and answer Congressional Subpoenas.

I used Hillary as an example... I'm so sorry you can't follow the conversation. Your hypocrisy must have blocked your vision.

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