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Originally posted by Taciturn:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by excelman:
Some are trying to influence their community, others are trying to control.
For example,:
A church that is trying to influence it's members may preach against something they consider a sin, and try to influence members of their congregation on that subject.
If , on the other hand, some church decides that whatever that particular sin is, should not even be avaliable to the community at large, that is control.
A recent example is the alcohol sales on Sunday.
1st, there is no probition in scripture against drinking alcohol, so alcohol consumption is a made up sin.
Now, instead of just trying to convince just their congregation that they should not consume alcohol on Sunday, (which would be ok by me) they try to control the rest of us by trying to have proabition . That is an attempt to control, and that is just wrong.
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Not even close to the real definition of control. You just don't like it because their OPINION was different than yours. If they were trying to control anybody they would have used blackmail, kiddnapping, murder, extortion, or any other tatic to make sure they got what they wanted. You are saying anybody who votes against what YOU think is right is trying to control you. It's a public vote people, nobody is trying to control you. I saw more vote YES signs than No signs when I drove through Sheffield. By your definition I guess somebody on your side was trying to control the other side? I personnally don't care about the recent vote because I didn't have a horse in that race. What irritates me is that you are trying to control how other citizens, tax paying and law abiding people, express themselves. To me that is the definition of control.