Joy, bless her heart has not been heard from in a long time.I guess She saw the writing on the wall.
Now Brentenman, a man that spoke his mind with no gray areas.
Who will be the next to just say to heck with it.
Before you know it this forum could might as well be full of the "I love all of you" so what will be the point of having it at all?
I guess it could be a T.D liberal only, gay get together forum.
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themax... good post, and one that NEEDS posting too...

We have had a lot of people join this forum lately that are just plain mean heaarted if you don't agree with every word they say and we have people posting nonsense that we have to weed through to get to the good posts...

For each and every one of the members of this forum, as yourself, WOULD you DARE talk to the people you know in REAL LIFE the way you do here? My guess is no!!! The being anonymous, sitting BEHIND a computer screen for cover makes a side come out that isn't ALLOWED out at any other time.... It sure looks that way!!!

There is absolutely NO reason to be mean... NONE... ANYONE on here, including ME can make our opinions, and ideas known in a courteous way. And if that "ever so often" heated debate comes up, well, have fun with it... because if it is "HEATED" that means right from the start that it is losing ground and no one is "listening"...

SOOOO glad you made this post!!!
Quarrels, you dont think B'man left voluntarily??? If it was any other way, then that is just plain WRONG!!! He was from our OLD Forum, and he has EVERY right to be here!!!
No question of his right to be here. I think that old guy from Florida ran him off. The old man said he was retired Army and spoke as if he knew the military. He quoted the UCMJ( uniform Code of Military Justice) which few nonmilitary are aware of, and spoke of the chain of command also.
Please don't misunderstand I believe that B'man left of his own accord but not without realizing he had gone too far.
B'man posted at 10:48PM on Jan.29th 07 then deleted about one third of his post at 7:32am on the 30th. He deleted the worst part. I went back to see just what all this was about and found the edit by B'man. I think he knew he went too far and tried some damage control. I don't blame him, he did go too far. I also don't fault the old guy(flatulentinfl) for getting upset with B'man. He fet threatened and said so. This is where all this stands, to the best of my knowledge. Have a good one.Smiler
I didn't see the guy from Florida's reply, nor B'mans at that time...

But Military or not, we are Human Beings first, and each and every one of us can be driven past that point... I think that maybe the man from Florida may have brought him to his senses, but he was INDEED being provoked by some of the other members of this Forum.

He honorably did the right thing and got rid of his post that may not have been "Militarily Correct"... but still, people were going for his jugular vein...

They come in swarms to beat the weakest (at the moment) down... it is evident on several posting just in the last 2-4 weeks... It really is sad.

Hope you have a great day too!!
My God KS, B'man threatened to shoot someone. Shoot them. Stop this irrational defense of this guy.
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Originally posted by Quarrles:
My God KS, B'man threatened to shoot someone. Shoot them. Stop this irrational defense of this guy.


Q,

I'm right with you on this one. KS just commented that since we are all human, "each and every one of us can be driven past that point." I guess the question at hand is where that "point" resides for the typical, rational, mentally stable person.

From my own experience, I have never threatened to shoot someone. I know of a few people who have, and most of them are now in treatment facilities or jail, based on their individual circumstances. As for what I will call the "Gun Pride" syndrome, I know a number of people who are gun collectors, as well as those I would call "gun fanatics" to some extent, but none are quite the same as BM. They have them, they collect them, but yet they do not self-identify with them. For that matter, we have a few firearms in our own home for protection, but I mention them about as often as I mention our toaster oven! Most people who own firearms (for whatever reason) don't seem to base their own identities on those. Considering BM's forum nickname, I think this difference is pretty obvious.

I have friends and family in the military and some that have served in Iraq. One was killed. I've also had family members who fought in WW I, WW II, the Korean War, and Viet Nam. None are quite the same as BM. Sure, there's the military mindset. But the military doesn't suggest/teach that EVERYONE is the enemy. That's called paranoia. And it can be a very real and serious mental issue.

I only have an undergraduate degree in Psychology, so I'm certainly not an expert on what a person needs. However, I do have some common sense to go along with that degree. BM, based on the comments here, might have some issues. And yes, we all have some issues. But most of us don't threaten to shoot anyone. Whether or not someone was being "provoked" on a newspaper forum is beside the point. On the other hand, here's a reasonable follow-up question to that comment: how do mentally stable people react to provocation on a local newspaper forum? Do they react reasonably? Often so. Do they cuss or swear? Possibly. Do they call the other person names or assign them a 'label' they see as derogatory? Unfortunately, sometimes they do. But threatening to SHOOT someone is beyond the scope (no pun intended) of the typical, mentally stable response. Doing so is problematic, to put it nicely. Here, I absolutely agree with KS: "there is absolutely no reason to be mean." I think threats of shooting someone would fall into that category.

I can only hope that all of those who need help seek it in their own way.
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I guess I missed a few things. How long has the poster in question been missing? Who did he threaten to shoot? Over what subject?

Perhaps he is busy. I, for one, do not have the time or inclination to read every forum. Usually, I read what's up front in the morning and - if there's a point I want to make and I think anyone is interested - I will add something. But much of the time it seems like so much bashing out here - each one proclaiming their unassailable worldview louder than the next. So, I think, what's the point?

Certainly, BM has posted in that fashion not infrequently; maybe he needs to get his breath after so much venting.
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Originally posted by Quarrles:
My God KS, B'man threatened to shoot someone. Shoot them. Stop this irrational defense of this guy.


See? I didn't see that... but this IS the Internet.... would be hard to do through the Monitor... guess that was the "safety net" that made him make comments like that...

I can't help taking up for him...I knew him well before the bashing, gnawing, insulting and just plain being mean to him started... There was NEVER any problems with him, just honesty.

I just wonder how many of us have ever SAID anything that was BAD that we didn't mean... I would like to see that comment so that I could see what context he may have meant it by.
Yo Brotha...
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply to your question about B/man and somebodys (azz) as you call it.
Yes I would rather he did that, especially to you, but we all know there would be no room beside your head there.
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Originally posted by themax:
Joy, bless her heart has not been heard from in a long time.I guess She saw the writing on the wall.
Now Brentenman, a man that spoke his mind with no gray areas.
Who will be the next to just say to heck with it.
Before you know it this forum could might as well be full of the "I love all of you" so what will be the point of having it at all?
I guess it could be a T.D liberal only, gay get together forum.


Max,
I assume that the last post from brentenman was truthful. He left because he was defeated. He either gave up the fight for his csuses, and took it elsewhere, or he decided his cause was unjust and decided to NOT admit that. Or, the AG called him in to discuss some of what he had to say. And he left on account of wanting to keep his job.
I know how angry I became over what he said, and he surely did not feel differently about what I had to say about it. So, to put it simply, I won. That discredits the purpose of these forums. 247 people looked at this thread. 13 responded. There are 21 pages of postings listed in a search for brentenman. He will be missed. I will miss him, he was someone who could be engaged. His position was opposed to mine, and mine to his. That gave life to a discussion.
Another point, he was public now he is not. If he has gone underground, rather than changing his position, he cannot be seen, the unseen danger is the only danger, and the unseen benefit is a blessing. One reason that I argue against the generalized attacks on Islam is they drive the Muslims underground. The history of the Early Christian Church is full of stories of churches forming and meeting in catacombs, and hidden places, and eventually prevailing over thier oppressors.
Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.
".the only thing we have to fear is fear itself"....does that still ring true? Have we positioned this threat to a place where it is marshalling all our energy, money, thought, and we are missing signs of things that really are more problematic, that should be of a higher priority? Just a thought....
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Originally posted by elijah435:
Sorry, wrong topic...

I thought it fit, Fear is like a dark cloud that hides all that life has to offer, including lively discussion and examination of our own deepest thoughts in the bright light of day.

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