I retract my offer to moderate this forum.
I wish the TD the best, and suggest they dissolve this forum immediately.
DF
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I can't say I blame you. I guess we'll be reading about a lawsuit against this paper soon if they don't do something, tho'. Just some of the things I've read tonight made my jaw drop.
To moderate assumes you are dealing with intelligent adults. The average IQ here of the trolls is 5.
Glad, where will you read it?
Shoalanda, perhaps?
DF
Shoalanda, perhaps?
DF
But of course. Where do ALL the residents have to go to get the real news for Northwest Alabama? I came for the forums. I know better than to expect to read anything in the TD if it sheds anything about our lovely area except sweetness and light. , 
What has happened here now?
Truer words were never spoken.
I guess I'm glad I was busy yesterday. 
quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Hi Deep,
Personally, I am very proud to say I am an Alabamian and a product of the Shoals area: Tuscumbia, Muscle Shoals, and Sheffield specifically. I am sad that you are ashamed to be a Shoals product.
Reading through your ranting diatribe -- it appears that one of the main reasons you hate the Shoals is because of the great Christian influence there. This is one of the reasons I am very proud of the people of the Shoals area. I love telling folks that my home is in the Bible Belt -- and that my hometown, the Shoals area, is the belt buckle.
I do not see inbreeding, as you do, which causes a lack of intellect and culture -- instead, I see people grounded in the Word of God -- and stronger for it.
Maybe it is good that you live in the Glendale/Pasadena area (even though you claim Hollyweird) -- for we would not want to embarrass you in front of your Hollyweird friends.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Bill, I think you missed the entire point that Deep Fat was trying to get across....I do not know ANY of you but have enjoyed reading the forum daily for a long time...lately, it is disgusting and embarrassing to me to see some of the things that have been in print...certainly not newsworthy....childish and not even entertaining...mean and cruel..a total lack of entertainment...and far from being attractive for our area. I grew up in the Shoals and I love this area but this has been an embarrassment to me to say "this is my hometown"....this is not the way everyone in the Shoals acts but it sure appears that way to see such as this in print in the TD for others to see. Many, many individuals that do not subscribe to the TD read this forum and I can only begin to imagine what their opinion of our area is! Bill, have you been reading this forum? I see no way that your opinion of these "writers" could possibility be this high....just my 'two cents worth' and I'm sure that most of these "ill mannered" writers will say that I can keep that 'two cents worth' to myself...just couldn't help adding it!
I think the Chrsitian influence had little to do with Deeps statement. Reread it, Mr. Bill. It's the general mindset of the many of the people here who are resigned to being resigned, if that makes any sense to you.
DF, I agree, this forum is a disgrace to the Shoals area.
I read for a long time before I ever posted anything. If I had read anything like what has been going on lately, I would've never joined. I swore when the ugliness started I would never post again, but here I am, hopefully putting in my last two cents, in defense of DF's statement.
BG, if you had been reading the posts that DF is referring to, you would not think there is much Christian influence in the Shoals. I think DF is right on target!
BTW, if there is any way to unjoin the Forum, will someone please let me know. I do not want to be associated with this kind of trash talk!
I read for a long time before I ever posted anything. If I had read anything like what has been going on lately, I would've never joined. I swore when the ugliness started I would never post again, but here I am, hopefully putting in my last two cents, in defense of DF's statement.
BG, if you had been reading the posts that DF is referring to, you would not think there is much Christian influence in the Shoals. I think DF is right on target!
BTW, if there is any way to unjoin the Forum, will someone please let me know. I do not want to be associated with this kind of trash talk!
Deepfat, I totally understand your reasoning. This forum is beyond moderating and I have no desire to moderate it myself.
quote:Originally posted by bhuepque:
DF, I agree, this forum is a disgrace to the Shoals area.
I read for a long time before I ever posted anything. If I had read anything like what has been going on lately, I would've never joined. I swore when the ugliness started I would never post again, but here I am, hopefully putting in my last two cents, in defense of DF's statement.
BG, if you had been reading the posts that DF is referring to, you would not think there is much Christian influence in the Shoals. I think DF is right on target!
BTW, if there is any way to unjoin the Forum, will someone please let me know. I do not want to be associated with this kind of trash talk!
Wow, bhuepque i'm soooo with you. I've been reading and wanting to join in for some time now and am nothing but scared. A group of mean drunks is nothing compared to some of the goings on I've read on this particular site.
What the heck are you people even taking about?
Close the forums down. It has become nothing more than a venue for people to be mean to each other while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. Close the forums down.
I just want to know where to go from here? That is not an introduction for someone to make a sarcastic remark. That is what this has come to. It is just a question.
I would like to have some meaningful discussion and it has turned impossible here.
Any suggestions?
I would like to have some meaningful discussion and it has turned impossible here.
Any suggestions?
I applaud DeepFat. I moved here three years ago and began reading the forums as soon as I found them. I suppose that was at least two years ago. I have made two really good friends for life. I won't mentions names, but one a nurse like me and one a divorced lady with no children like me. They know who they are and how much I appreciate them. I've been able to visit here when I've gone out of state to visit relatives, usually. When I haven't had access, I've missed some weeks, once even a month. Each time I've come back this place is worse and worse.
What I've seen the past six months is disgusting. One segment has defiled the whole forum it seems like. I don't enjoy any of it, or at best very little. The Times Daily should listen to what DeepFat says.
What I've seen the past six months is disgusting. One segment has defiled the whole forum it seems like. I don't enjoy any of it, or at best very little. The Times Daily should listen to what DeepFat says.
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Hi Deep,
Personally, I am very proud to say I am an Alabamian and a product of the Shoals area: Tuscumbia, Muscle Shoals, and Sheffield specifically. I am sad that you are ashamed to be a Shoals product.
Reading through your ranting diatribe -- it appears that one of the main reasons you hate the Shoals is because of the great Christian influence there. This is one of the reasons I am very proud of the people of the Shoals area. I love telling folks that my home is in the Bible Belt -- and that my hometown, the Shoals area, is the belt buckle.
I do not see inbreeding, as you do, which causes a lack of intellect and culture -- instead, I see people grounded in the Word of God -- and stronger for it.
Maybe it is good that you live in the Glendale/Pasadena area (even though you claim Hollyweird) -- for we would not want to embarrass you in front of your Hollyweird friends.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Bill,
As usual, you try to spin everything in your preferred direction. Deep only mentioned preachers once, and then only in passing. His post dosen't even remotely indicate that religion was a main factor for what he said. Also, you should heed the advice he gives you regularly, hone your reading comprehension skills or lack thereof. Example, you said, I do not see inbreeding, as you do, which causes a lack of intellect and culture -- instead, I see people grounded in the Word of God -- and stronger for it. That is not what he said. His exact quote was, The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. A big difference, but I never expect you to interpret anything except the way you want it to sound. Taking liberties with a quote, from the movie Tombstone, your hypocracy seems to know no bounds.
quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
I retract my offer to moderate this forum.
I wish the TD the best, and suggest they dissolve this forum immediately.
DF
DeepFat...... I read your comment thru the quotes of others and I say that I respect you with all my heart!....what you said was great and true...... from what little I have been able to read and a few things sent to me in private message I understand why you have said what you said!........ Good luck and mucho respect for you and your good and sound reasons!......
Ginger0, I did not think I would like you at first, but you seem to be OK.
quote:Originally posted by Ginger0:quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
I retract my offer to moderate this forum.
I wish the TD the best, and suggest they dissolve this forum immediately.
DF
DeepFat...... I read your comment thru the quotes of others and I say that I respect you with all my heart!....what you said was great and true...... from what little I have been able to read and a few things sent to me in private message I understand why you have said what you said!........ Good luck and mucho respect for you and your good and sound reasons!......
quote:Originally posted by unclegus:
Ginger0, I did not think I would like you at first, but you seem to be OK.
Thank you sir.... I am not one of the trolls..... I am indeed new and am trying just to be friendly.... I dont want no problems at all..... I did spend some time this weekend reading a lot of the comments that have so many in an uproar which made me realize that DeepFats reasoning was right on!.....
quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Kiss our collective ass then loser. You hate Christians and southerners. Stay out then!
quote:Originally posted by misterme:
Kiss our collective ass then loser.
OUR?
I hope you weren't including me in that "our".quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by misterme:
Kiss our collective ass then loser.
OUR?
Me neither!..... nor many on here who do side with DeepFat neither.... you sure are trying to speak for many who do not share your nasty attitude.....
quote:Originally posted by Ginger0:
Me neither!..... nor many on here who do side with DeepFat neither.... you sure are trying to speak for many who do not share your nasty attitude.....
Ditto. Deep's the man!
Let it be known that Deep is, and always was, a true Southerner. It's the TimesDaily's loss.
quote:Originally posted by misterme:quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Kiss our collective ass then loser. You hate Christians and southerners. Stay out then!
Who do you think you are, misterme? Speak for yourself. I'm sick of people like you making all Southerners sound stupid. You could be the poster child for everything DeepFat said.
Ditto for me glad2bndixie.
quote:Originally posted by misterme:quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Kiss our collective ass then loser. You hate Christians and southerners. Stay out then!
You are one really pathetic little piece of crap. Deep has never said he hated anyone. It's time you left the computer before someone tells your mommy you're on again. Now go away and let the grown-ups talk.
This is to the trolls only. You know who you are.
It seems the Osmonds were wrong: one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. Certainly four or five bad apples will produce a rank crate of 'em. You all love the playground antics that have tainted this forum for the last few months. DeepFat makes this request clearly for the purpose of attempting to inject some semblance of respectability back into this forum, and you don't want it. You attribute this to his atheism; I'm not buying that anymore. Why? Because you aren't Christian. That's right. Cancel your membership to the 700 Club and halt the plans to send the kids to Oral Roberts University. Read what you post, then consult the Good Book (if you have the aptitude for comparing and contrasting).
Have any of you ever been challenged by a teacher/instructor? That's a rhetorical question, of course; I know the answer. I doubt any of you have ever accomplished any challenge beyond the simple steps required to open a box of cereal. That is what people like DeepFat do; they challenge us to think outside that cereal box - atrocious segue and overused cliche, I know. You don't want DF as a mod simply because he questions your spiritual ideals. I welcome it.
You see, I have many friends and they are not all like me. Some like to go to movies and museums; others want to stay home and catch episodes of that godawful Bachelor show. See? I can be friends with and enjoy the company of people who choose to watch shows that set our progress as women back at least fifty years, but I digress. I also count as friends several Mormons - pretty smart graduates of BYU. I don't agree with their religious tenets. We have civil and meaningful debate about many issues, including religion. And guess what? They've yet to convince me that I could be the God of my own planet in the afterlife. And DF hasn't baptized me in atheism; he hasn't tried. If Mary Matalin and James Carville can be married and make it work, you'd think friends that have differing views could share the occasional cup of coffee. Geez!
Cover the kiddies eyes now. Put an episode of "Bibleman" in the DVD player and press play. What I'm about to say is worse than the transcript from the Scopes Monkey Trial. I have a co-worker that is gay and he has a picture of his boyfriend on his desk. Guess what? I don't care! It's shocking to you I know, but he still deserves air and he throws fabulous parties!
There are many, many great people that live in that town. And there are times when I miss living there; this isn't one of them. Though I didn't get as far away as DF, I'm glad I made it at least 100 miles to the southeast. You people (trolls) make me sad.
Amen and pass the Tylenol!
DF,
I'm truly sorry that the TD you're so fond of and remember from childhood has developed this cancer that has metastasized these last few months.
It seems the Osmonds were wrong: one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. Certainly four or five bad apples will produce a rank crate of 'em. You all love the playground antics that have tainted this forum for the last few months. DeepFat makes this request clearly for the purpose of attempting to inject some semblance of respectability back into this forum, and you don't want it. You attribute this to his atheism; I'm not buying that anymore. Why? Because you aren't Christian. That's right. Cancel your membership to the 700 Club and halt the plans to send the kids to Oral Roberts University. Read what you post, then consult the Good Book (if you have the aptitude for comparing and contrasting).
Have any of you ever been challenged by a teacher/instructor? That's a rhetorical question, of course; I know the answer. I doubt any of you have ever accomplished any challenge beyond the simple steps required to open a box of cereal. That is what people like DeepFat do; they challenge us to think outside that cereal box - atrocious segue and overused cliche, I know. You don't want DF as a mod simply because he questions your spiritual ideals. I welcome it.
You see, I have many friends and they are not all like me. Some like to go to movies and museums; others want to stay home and catch episodes of that godawful Bachelor show. See? I can be friends with and enjoy the company of people who choose to watch shows that set our progress as women back at least fifty years, but I digress. I also count as friends several Mormons - pretty smart graduates of BYU. I don't agree with their religious tenets. We have civil and meaningful debate about many issues, including religion. And guess what? They've yet to convince me that I could be the God of my own planet in the afterlife. And DF hasn't baptized me in atheism; he hasn't tried. If Mary Matalin and James Carville can be married and make it work, you'd think friends that have differing views could share the occasional cup of coffee. Geez!
Cover the kiddies eyes now. Put an episode of "Bibleman" in the DVD player and press play. What I'm about to say is worse than the transcript from the Scopes Monkey Trial. I have a co-worker that is gay and he has a picture of his boyfriend on his desk. Guess what? I don't care! It's shocking to you I know, but he still deserves air and he throws fabulous parties!
There are many, many great people that live in that town. And there are times when I miss living there; this isn't one of them. Though I didn't get as far away as DF, I'm glad I made it at least 100 miles to the southeast. You people (trolls) make me sad.
Amen and pass the Tylenol!
DF,
I'm truly sorry that the TD you're so fond of and remember from childhood has developed this cancer that has metastasized these last few months.
Oh, Bill, just so you won't be completely disappointed with a woman saying such things, I'm standing in my kitchen as I type, wearing no shoes, and I'm in my third trimester. 
That's all you got?
quote:Originally posted by DHS-86:quote:Originally posted by misterme:quote:Originally posted by DeepFat: Beyonce,
The citizens of your community have demonstrated that they do not deserve the privilege of an open forum. They, with certain exceptions, are not civilized nor sufficiently steeped in American ideals of civil debate to be qualified to participate in one.
I take no happiness in reporting this, but now I remember some of the reasons why I left so many years ago. The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress, and the solipsistic outlook that beyond the Shoals nothing exists have retarded the philosophical growth of the place. The whole area, with certain exceptions, remains developmentally arrested. A grade school mindset among enough of the adults is pervasive enough to poison any reflection and hope for betterment. A childish reliance on preachers and government has substituted for ambition.
When "Alabama" is used as a synonym for ignorance and unsophistication, they don't mean Birmingham or Mobile. They mean you. DF
Kiss our collective ass then loser. You hate Christians and southerners. Stay out then!
You are one really pathetic little piece of crap. Deep has never said he hated anyone. It's time you left the computer before someone tells your mommy you're on again. Now go away and let the grown-ups talk.
Bravo DHS!
quote:Originally posted by Wild Irish Prose:
This is to the trolls only. You know who you are.
It seems the Osmonds were wrong: one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. Certainly four or five bad apples will produce a rank crate of 'em. You all love the playground antics that have tainted this forum for the last few months. DeepFat makes this request clearly for the purpose of attempting to inject some semblance of respectability back into this forum, and you don't want it. You attribute this to his atheism; I'm not buying that anymore. Why? Because you aren't Christian. That's right. Cancel your membership to the 700 Club and halt the plans to send the kids to Oral Roberts University. Read what you post, then consult the Good Book (if you have the aptitude for comparing and contrasting).
Have any of you ever been challenged by a teacher/instructor? That's a rhetorical question, of course; I know the answer. I doubt any of you have ever accomplished any challenge beyond the simple steps required to open a box of cereal. That is what people like DeepFat do; they challenge us to think outside that cereal box - atrocious segue and overused cliche, I know. You don't want DF as a mod simply because he questions your spiritual ideals. I welcome it.
You see, I have many friends and they are not all like me. Some like to go to movies and museums; others want to stay home and catch episodes of that godawful Bachelor show. See? I can be friends with and enjoy the company of people who choose to watch shows that set our progress as women back at least fifty years, but I digress. I also count as friends several Mormons - pretty smart graduates of BYU. I don't agree with their religious tenets. We have civil and meaningful debate about many issues, including religion. And guess what? They've yet to convince me that I could be the God of my own planet in the afterlife. And DF hasn't baptized me in atheism; he hasn't tried. If Mary Matalin and James Carville can be married and make it work, you'd think friends that have differing views could share the occasional cup of coffee. Geez!
Cover the kiddies eyes now. Put an episode of "Bibleman" in the DVD player and press play. What I'm about to say is worse than the transcript from the Scopes Monkey Trial. I have a co-worker that is gay and he has a picture of his boyfriend on his desk. Guess what? I don't care! It's shocking to you I know, but he still deserves air and he throws fabulous parties!
There are many, many great people that live in that town. And there are times when I miss living there; this isn't one of them. Though I didn't get as far away as DF, I'm glad I made it at least 100 miles to the southeast. You people (trolls) make me sad.
Amen and pass the Tylenol!
DF,
I'm truly sorry that the TD you're so fond of and remember from childhood has developed this cancer that has metastasized these last few months.
DOUBLE BRAVO WIP!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Glad2BNDixie:
I think the Chrsitian influence had little to do with Deeps statement. Reread it, Mr. Bill. It's the general mindset of the many of the people here who are resigned to being resigned, if that makes any sense to you.
Hi Glad,
Possibly you missed the innuendo, "The acceptance of poverty, the general rejection of sophistication, the inbreeding of intellect and culture, the preference for a shallow piety over progress. . ."
I have been on the Forum for over 2 1/2 years; primarily on the Religion Forum -- but, on Misc Forum before TD set up the Religion Forum.
And, believe me -- when deep makes a statement such as the one above -- he IS saying that Christians are deluded and stupid. Trust me -- I have read enough Deepisms to know what he means most of the time.
And, he is calling Southerners and folks of the Shoals area STUPID because of the Christian influence found there.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Bill, you have tunnel vision.