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Does anybody but me see anything wrong with this picture ?  Here we have the city counsel in Tuscumbia , led by Bubba Underwood , wanting to put in stop lights out on Hwy 72, and move the town out there. I've long suspected that the main reason we can't get an interstate hightway thru this area is these idiots can't figure out how to put stop lights on one. 

I well remember back before the "bypass" was built - Hwy 72 went right down thru Tuscumbia. To continue on to Huntsville, you either had to go down Jackson Hwy, thru Sheffield, Florence and yes , even Killen, then on to Athens where you had to go downtown, and turn right etc. OR, you could to thru Tuscumbia, turn right on what is now the road going up to Colbert Mtn, and it took a left turn and became hwy 20.

Then , the bypass came, and boy was it a lot better. Now, we got a bunch of people there who want to reverse the clock, and insure we don't have a good transportation route thru the area.

 

Want to know why Tupelo is doing so well - Hwy 45 - you can go North or South thru Tupelo without ever having to stop. Hwy 78 (soon to be an interstate) , you can go East or West thru Tupelo without ever having to stop. This hwy infrastructure is one of the main reasons that Toyota gave for selecting that site for their plant.

You want industry to come to this area ? - provide some decent transportation infrastructure in and out without having some damm stop light every block.

You want stagnation ? Let this bunch see just how many stop lights they can put up.

 

 

 

 

 

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“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.”
― Thomas Paine

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Hwy 72 is the New Tuscumbia like Cox Creek Blvd. is the New Florence.  Difference is that Florence has the retail shopping centers, and everyone in Colbert crosses The River to shop and eat in restaurants.  Tuscumbia and Sheffield have virtually no retail sales--thus no income from taxes.  And it's sadly never going to change.  It's a shame that two city government consolidation is not on the table, as both cities are too small and too broke to be of any help to each other.

The person that said positive things about Tupelo hasn't lived there.  The huge furniture manufacturing business is gone--to Mexico.  Toyota's having problems keeping workers, as they work their people to 100% of their physical capabilities.  Despite having good roads, the city is not a very classy society.  Except for the Golden Triangle, Oxford and Hattiesburg, there are few Mississippi towns that are very livable.

I'd say the reason red lights are put up the way they are is because people don't know how to drive.  Too many people get killed or have wrecks because they don't know how to look for oncoming traffic or the oncoming traffic doesn't have the respect to let drivers from side roads enter the speedway.  It's the peoples complaints that get them put up.  And the lack of safe driving.

Well , this particular rant is about Tuscumbia wanting to turn hwy 72 into it's new downtown with stop lights etc. , but the bigger problem is that the entire area has been blighted with them.

Where else, can a major bridge over a big river , 6 lanes wide, built on newly purchased right of way, not have on and off ramps . Why in the name of whoever is the hwy commissioner, did they build two overpasses for the new road, and then put a damm stoplight at each one ? Who else would do such a stupid thing, and why ? 

It is just beyond me.

I have to disagree Bamaman, there is a world of difference between Cox Creek Parkway and Hwy 72 in Tuscumbia. First, Cox Creek is a street in Florence, and while I still beleive it is overbuilt for it's own good, it's still just a street.

Hwy 72 is , well, an interstate (not to be confused with "I" designated interstates, but the kind that goes between states - in this case ,3) highway, a major E-W route connecting Memphis, this area, Huntsville, Decatur and Chatanooga, not to mention access to 3 "I" designated interstate highways .

In addition, like I said, the highway used to go thru Tuscumbia, and that part was built as a bypass. Build it up to stop traffic from moving, and alternate routes will be used, which in the long run will do more harm to this area than it will help that poor little town that can't figure out how to help itself other than inconvenience thousands of people per day.

 

I don't know if any of you enjoy poetry, but I read this poem about 45 or so years ago, and it speaks to the problem of  closed minds about more than just this highway thing.

Hope you enjoy !

 

The Calf-Path

by  Sam Walter Foss  (1858-1911)

One day, through the primeval wood,
A calf walked home, as good calves should;
But made a trail all bent askew,
A crooked trail, as all calves do.

Since then three hundred years have fled,
And, I infer, the calf is dead.
But still he left behind his trail,
And thereby hangs my moral tale.

The trail was taken up next day
By a lone dog that passed that way;
And then a wise bellwether sheep
Pursued the trail o’er vale and steep,
And drew the flock behind him, too,
As good bellwethers always do.

And from that day, o’er hill and glade,
Through those old woods a path was made,
And many men wound in and out,
And dodged and turned and bent about,
And uttered words of righteous wrath
Because ’twas such a crooked path;
But still they followed — do not laugh —
The first migrations of that calf,
And through this winding wood-way stalked
Because he wobbled when he walked.

This forest path became a lane,
That bent, and turned, and turned again.
This crooked lane became a road,
Where many a poor horse with his load
Toiled on beneath the burning sun,
And traveled some three miles in one.
And thus a century and a half
They trod the footsteps of that calf.

The years passed on in swiftness fleet.
The road became a village street,
And this, before men were aware,
A city’s crowded thoroughfare,
And soon the central street was this
Of a renowned metropolis;
And men two centuries and a half
Trod in the footsteps of that calf.

Each day a hundred thousand rout
Followed that zigzag calf about,
And o’er his crooked journey went
The traffic of a continent.
A hundred thousand men were led
By one calf near three centuries dead.
They follow still his crooked way,
And lose one hundred years a day,
For thus such reverence is lent
To well-established precedent.

A moral lesson this might teach
Were I ordained and called to preach;
For men are prone to go it blind
Along the calf-paths of the mind,
And work away from sun to sun
To do what other men have done.
They follow in the beaten track,
And out and in, and forth and back,
And still their devious course pursue,
To keep the path that others do.

They keep the path a sacred groove,
Along which all their lives they move;
But how the wise old wood-gods laugh,
Who saw the first primeval calf!
Ah, many things this tale might teach —
But I am not ordained to preach.

 

(from seeweed post)  

 "... there is a world of difference between Cox Creek Parkway and Hwy 72 in Tuscumbia. First, Cox Creek is a street in Florence, and while I still beleive it is overbuilt for it's own good, it's still just a street."

 

Cox Creek is not a "street"...it's a parkway.  If it is, it's the biggest and busiest "street" i've ever seen!

But if the building up of Hwy 72 is gonna cause people to stop a little more and buy gas and food and maybe cause them to drift on into "town" to see whats there as they travel, you'd better be grateful.  That slow part of the highway may be your city's salvation.

Originally Posted by skyryder:

(from seeweed post)  

 "... there is a world of difference between Cox Creek Parkway and Hwy 72 in Tuscumbia. First, Cox Creek is a street in Florence, and while I still beleive it is overbuilt for it's own good, it's still just a street."

 

Cox Creek is not a "street"...it's a parkway.  If it is, it's the biggest and busiest "street" i've ever seen!

But if the building up of Hwy 72 is gonna cause people to stop a little more and buy gas and food and maybe cause them to drift on into "town" to see whats there as they travel, you'd better be grateful.  That slow part of the highway may be your city's salvation.

Corinth tried that path and for their efforts they got what has become (at last time I heard) the most dangerous intersection in the nation. 

Why do so many , like yourself, want to deny people the opportunity to get on a highway trip and not have to stop. There should be some things in life more than some greedy people putting up stoplights.

Tuscumbia has "streets" that they could build up instead, Hook St comes to mind. Is there anything that could be done to make it worse ? Anthing at all would improve that.

 

As to Cox Creek however, if you get at one end of it , what city will you be in ?

If you travel the entire length of it, what city will you find yourself in ?

Morale, it's just a damm busy city street/parkway/avenue whatever you want to call it, it dosen't take you anywhere except another location on itself.

 

As I mentioned before, hwy 72 starts (or ends as you look at it) in Memphis, and ends in Chatanooga,(or more accurately into I24 )  with a lot of towns in between. seems to me there is a lot of difference. 

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If a city has to rely on stop lights to do its advertising for it, then the city has bigger things to worry about.  If I was traveling from somewhere else to this area and had to stop at a bunch of stop lights, it isn't gonna make me pull over or venture into town.  It's gonna make me annoyed that I have to deal with that and then I will go on my way and think of a different route to take to get where I'm going.

Seeweed, I agree with everything you said. I read that story and almost fell out of my chair at the stupidity in such remarks. The same guy also didn't want Avalon Avenue expanded, because it would (paraphrasing) "allow people to get to Muscle Shoals easier". Well gee! We wouldn't want our traffic infrastructure to actually get people where they need to go, now would we? 

 

The (I'm still calling it) Patton Island Bridge is the biggest transportation travesty this state has ever seen, in my opinion. It should be a freeway from at least River Road to north of Florence Blvd. If our "leadership" in the state government had done their jobs, that might have happened. But that's what we get for being represented (at the time) by a guy who was more preoccupied with his laughable "music career" and the other highway that it took him 40+ years to get completely built. Then they named the road after him. Ha! 

 

Maybe, some day, the Shoals will get some competent leadership at all levels of government and the stagnation that we've seen for so long will start to turn around. Hell, I'd just love for there to be a job available in my field so I could have the chance to move back someday (I'm currently in Chattanooga). When will these guys learn that a new traffic light surrounded by McDonald's and Burger King is NOT the answer we are looking for? 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by SmoothcatRedux:

The (I'm still calling it) Patton Island Bridge is the biggest transportation travesty this state has ever seen, in my opinion.

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I still call it Patton Island Bridge too. Singing River  sounds so dumb. Who & why even came up with that name?

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I call it "Stoplight Bridge"

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