If you could travel back in time to the Crucifixion, would you rescue Jesus from the cross?
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quote:No, he didn't need me or anyone else to rescue him
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Good point, Crusty.
Scripture says he is not attractive; yet people were drawn to him. I know he is a great storyteller, but I bet he has a great laugh, too. I wonder if the Bible says anything about him laughing? I'll have to look that up.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Bite me, david. Just kidding. Scrufty? Aw, you're making that up, aren't you?
Skeptic, you're missing the point, intentionally I'm sure. He is Immanuel, God with us. He doesn't need me to rescue him because he could step down any time he wants, call legions of angels to his side at any time.
Don't you think that I could call on my Father, and he would send me more than twelve legions of angels now? Matt 26:53
quote:Maybe because he was a second-rate teacher and had nothing worthwhile to say.
quote:Originally posted by davidnmiles:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Bite me, david. Just kidding. Scrufty? Aw, you're making that up, aren't you?
Skeptic, you're missing the point, intentionally I'm sure. He is Immanuel, God with us. He doesn't need me to rescue him because he could step down any time he wants, call legions of angels to his side at any time.
Don't you think that I could call on my Father, and he would send me more than twelve legions of angels now? Matt 26:53
You say he could have, but he didn't. Why. Because he was an inept braggadocio who had no mystical powers. He did not perrform one act to benefit mankind. He was nothing but hot air. Did he leave the world a better place than he found it? Oh, of course, he was really a hot shot but mankind didn't listen to him. Maybe because he was a second-rate teacher and had nothing worthwhile to say.
quote:If you could travel back in time to the Crucifixion, would you rescue Jesus from the cross?
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by davidnmiles:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Bite me, david. Just kidding. Scrufty? Aw, you're making that up, aren't you?
Skeptic, you're missing the point, intentionally I'm sure. He is Immanuel, God with us. He doesn't need me to rescue him because he could step down any time he wants, call legions of angels to his side at any time.
Don't you think that I could call on my Father, and he would send me more than twelve legions of angels now? Matt 26:53
You say he could have, but he didn't. Why. Because he was an inept braggadocio who had no mystical powers. He did not perrform one act to benefit mankind. He was nothing but hot air. Did he leave the world a better place than he found it? Oh, of course, he was really a hot shot but mankind didn't listen to him. Maybe because he was a second-rate teacher and had nothing worthwhile to say.
I'll be blunt, since I can see no way around it. I answered that load of nonsense the last time you asked, right before you disappeared.
Thanks, Skeptic.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Hmm, I'm not seeing it, Dave. You couldn't find it or you just don't want to look?
quote:Originally posted by davidnmiles:
You say he could have, but he didn't. Why. Because he was an inept braggadocio who had no mystical powers.
quote:He did not perrform one act to benefit mankind. He was nothing but hot air. Did he leave the world a better place than he found it? Oh, of course, he was really a hot shot but mankind didn't listen to him. Maybe because he was a second-rate teacher and had nothing worthwhile to say.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Click "link" to see where I answered you the last time you asked... Link
Here's the deal, david. I wish that it were not so, but you appear to be very angry and your arguments are exaggerated and extreme. I'm fine with someone coming to a different conclusion than me when they have logical reasons for it. I can even understand how they arrived at their conclusion. It's impossible to do that with extremists.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
It was one day in Honduras when a girl with no hope of a future found out she had one after all. That's one. I could go on for all eternity.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
Putting words in my mouth now, are we? I simply answered you question, dear. We weren't discussing world religions. You asked me for an example of when Christ gave hope to the hopeless and I answered you.
As to how other people of other religions feel about hope, I suggest you ask them.
If there were another god, it has made itself scarce in my life, thereby not my concern. JMHO
quote:It's a shame there is no hope for Jews, Hindus, Muslims, and atheists.
quote:Originally posted by LMM:quote:It's a shame there is no hope for Jews, Hindus, Muslims, and atheists.
Jews are in the Bible, particularly Revelations (See Twelve Tribes), Muslims have Jesus and Mary, I don't know about Hindus. There is hope for all, even atheists, but you just want to argue.
BTW, you invoked most of the "Stupid Atheists Tricks", so perhaps you could try some new ones.
I am not going to argue, you remind me of all the dems with BDS. Closed minds, irrational, and emotional.
quote:Originally posted by davidnmiles:
The sun rose this morning.
The rooster crowed this morning.
Ergo. The rooster caused the sun to rise.
2000 years ago Christ brought a message of hope to the hopeless.
One day a girl in Honduras had hope.
Ergo. Christ brought a message of hope to a girl in Honduras.
quote:See, this is why these arguments are pointless
quote:If you could travel back in time to the Crucifixion, would you rescue Jesus from the cross?
quote:I have thought about this and I think God would have changed his mind about destroying the entire earth cause he would have to kill his little boy to do it.