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If you give a democrat a Holiday greeting I'd suggest you use the following form. I posted this on another forum but it's so important I repost it here in case you missed it, and to be sure everyone knows the proper way to give that greeting to dems. If not done correctly you run the risk of being sued over said greeting.


Happy Solstice, Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanza
Sorry for the delay...our Legal Department just approved the following Holiday Greeting:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday(tm), practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secularpersuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all . . . and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2011, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual orientation of the wishee.

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And to the Republicans: Happy Holidays!!
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In my opinion you know nothing about being a true Democrat. But I give you credit. Most Republicans would simply say Merry Christmas. I'm glad you acknowledge that there are other faiths celebrating at this time. Lest we forget, this season began as a pagan holiday and was chosen by Christianity as Christmas so that they could compete. Other celebrations have followed the same path.
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Originally posted by AlabamaSon:
In my opinion you know nothing about being a true Democrat. But I give you credit. Most Republicans would simply say Merry Christmas. I'm glad you acknowledge that there are other faiths celebrating at this time. Lest we forget, this season began as a pagan holiday and was chosen by Christianity as Christmas so that they could compete. Other celebrations have followed the same path.
I know enough about democrats to know that even though this may have been written in jest it holds a lot of truth. If you look sideways at a democrat they want to sic the ACLU on you, or they have lawyers on "fast dial" just in case someone gives them what they perceive as a "slight". I know only too well the symbols and practices christians have embraced and now claim as their own, and get quite upset if people dare remember or mention the true origins. There are plenty of atheist Republicans, myself being one, and there are plenty of democrats that are christians. So exactly what was your point??
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
So exactly what was your point??


My point is that, as a Democrat, I do not feel that I fit the mold you describe. If it were not for the Democratic Party I would not have the successes I have today. I believe in charity and I believe in equality for all. I dare not say Republicans don't believe in those ideas. I simply don't agree with their approach.

I do appreciate your point that the post was in jest. I simply felt the need to respond as it would paint all Democrats in a corner that I don't feel applies to many of my Democratic friends. I also don't appreciate the Democrats who paint many of my Republican friends into some inappropriate corner. It just happens that many of the extremists are the loudest in any political ideology.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being atheist regardless of political ideology. In fact I applaud you. I personally feel that religion has spoiled some of the things I liked about the Republican platform.

My point is you can't really paint all people into one corner. I have never wanted to sic a lawyer on anybody. In fact I believe we need tort reform to the same extent that I believe we need medical treatment to be public funded. Those television lawyers simply turn me off. I have never sued anybody although I may do so one day. But I must remember we are all human and be willing to overlook human error in contrast to intentional deceit or intent to do harm.
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If it were not for the Democratic Party I would not have the successes I have today. I believe in charity and I believe in equality for all. I dare not say Republicans don't believe in those ideas. I simply don't agree with their approach.

That's the "funny part" of politics. We never "do well" when democrats are in power. I guess it depends on what area of business you're in. I absolutely believe in charity, but I don't agree with someone who could do for themselves feeling ENTITLED because someone else is "gettin" it so why can't they. I resent them because they take away from people who truly need help.
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I hear you Jen. I fondly remember the good ol days of wealth and prosperity under the leadership of George W.
Maybe thats why my house is up for bankruptcy auction.

What did I say? Depends on what business you're in. If you do well under the democrats because you're involved in some kind of "government handout job", created only to give our tax money away then you're ok. If like us, you work at a business you started WITHOUT any government assistance, and you don't depend on the government for handouts, you won't do well under democrats.
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Originally posted by electraglide:
if you don't like people with government jobs then put on your business door a sign that says you do not want any democrat money or christans money.
Ok, the day YOU give up your job I'll do just that. You don't have a problem with atheists or Republicans as long as that check keeps rolling in. At least in our business we actually provide a product and service for the money people pay us, not like government workers sitting on their butts getting paid for doing nothing.
In case it was implied by others, let me emphatically state that I have not received a "government hand out" nor have I held a government job. Neither of those situations define a Democrat or any political affiliation. I'm not sure where this thread is going, but it sure does make a lot of assumptions about Democrats that simply aren't definitive.
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Originally posted by Jobe:
The majority of people who work for the government or receive a “government handout” are democrat. And most of those are far left liberals. It’s just the way it is.


True. The non-leftists work for contractors and actually get the work done because the government employees are too danged busy in committee meetings, talking about everything BUT the job at hand.
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Originally posted by electraglide:
you know nothing about me, i didn't have no government job, i served my country in vietnam. have you ever done anything except try to act like your better than anyone else. what makes you so smart. by the way i am retired and don't have a job to give up. and by the way happy atheist day to you.
Show me where I try to "act better than anyone." Yes, I'm an atheist, is that why you're so pi**y towards me, because I don't bow to your imaginary god? You served your country? You were drafted right? Or did you volunteer? I didn't say you had a government job, so why are you barking at me? I work just like anyone else, pay my taxes like anyone else, and as much as you hate it I still have a right to my opinion. I know how you lefties hate that fact. You'd rather we just shut up and keep funneling money to your stupid entitlement/give away programs. And pal you don't know me either.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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I hear you Jen. I fondly remember the good ol days of wealth and prosperity under the leadership of George W.
Maybe thats why my house is up for bankruptcy auction.

What did I say? Depends on what business you're in. If you do well under the democrats because you're involved in some kind of "government handout job", created only to give our tax money away then you're ok. If like us, you work at a business you started WITHOUT any government assistance, and you don't depend on the government for handouts, you won't do well under democrats.



what complete and total bull****!!!!!
i've owned and operated a family business for in excess of 25 years. it's not part of a government bailout. wasn't started with some government handout. it was started by me and my father with EVERY dime we had saved.
we made it work! why? because we had no choice!
we needed to eat and pay bills.
i can and have ask dozens of business owners who was president when they made the most money in their past.... the answer BILL CLINTON. yes, even the republicans say that!!!!

btw, i'm a democrat and an atheist! what you've said is an insult to my intelligence and my way of life! not that it matters to you, but it does to me!
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Originally posted by b50m:
Bill Clinton ran the country on popularity polls, therefore, no wars, no Bin Laden, no ticking off Iraq or Iran. You also had the dot com boom, right before it busted the last few months under Slick Willie. Bush got the blame.

Seems a lot of dems are atheist. I wonder why?


one scientific theory is that the more educated a person becomes, the more liberal and atheist they are likely to be!
this forum seems to be the exception to the rule!
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Originally posted by b50m:
Bill Clinton ran the country on popularity polls, therefore, no wars, no Bin Laden, no ticking off Iraq or Iran. You also had the dot com boom, right before it busted the last few months under Slick Willie. Bush got the blame.

Seems a lot of dems are atheist. I wonder why?


What action did Clinton fail to take to prevent the wild speculation driving the dotcom bubble?
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what complete and total bull****!!!!!
i've owned and operated a family business for in excess of 25 years. it's not part of a government bailout. wasn't started with some government handout. it was started by me and my father with EVERY dime we had saved.
we made it work! why? because we had no choice!
we needed to eat and pay bills.
i can and have ask dozens of business owners who was president when they made the most money in their past.... the answer BILL CLINTON. yes, even the republicans say that!!!!

Same here pal, our business was started in our garage. Not one dime of money from investors, no loans, nothing but our hard work. We built it into what it is today. We have to eat and pay bills too. Not sure who you think you are but you haven't done one thing that thousands of small business owners haven't done, us included. And now more than ever we have to fight our own government to keep our heads above water. I'd bet we know hundreds more business owners than you, we deal with people all over the country and believe me they never sang the praises of BC and they sure as he** aren't singing obama's.
ma'am, you're the one making blanket statements about business owners and democrats. i'm merely stating the facts. just go turn fox news back on and let them tell you everything you need to know!

and i'm glad you know so many more "business people" than i do.
obviously, they think you're pretty freakin' ignorant too....
otherwise, you'd be making money like the rest of us. if you've been in business that long and have all these glorious contacts, you shouldn't be feeling the economy crunch that bad!
unless you're one of those over extended people waiting on someone to help bail you out!
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ma'am, you're the one making blanket statements about business owners and democrats. i'm merely stating the facts. just go turn fox news back on and let them tell you everything you need to know!

and i'm glad you know so many more "business people" than i do.
obviously, they think you're pretty freakin' ignorant too....
otherwise, you'd be making money like the rest of us. if you've been in business that long and have all these glorious contacts, you shouldn't be feeling the economy crunch that bad!
unless you're one of those over extended people waiting on someone to help bail you out!

Oh yes, oh sure, you're making all that money now. LOL That's why unemployment keeps falling eh? Roll Eyes Oh and the reason so many businesses are folding because of all that money you're making. You're the typical liberal, spin spin spin. I'll call anyone a LIAR that says small businesses aren't struggling. The ones that aren't getting the government handout that is. So spin that crap to the ignorant, but don't try it on legitimate business owners.
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Originally posted by willie:
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Originally posted by b50m:
Bill Clinton ran the country on popularity polls, therefore, no wars, no Bin Laden, no ticking off Iraq or Iran. You also had the dot com boom, right before it busted the last few months under Slick Willie. Bush got the blame.

Seems a lot of dems are atheist. I wonder why?


one scientific theory is that the more educated a person becomes, the more liberal and atheist they are likely to be!
this forum seems to be the exception to the rule!


Sounds quite a bit like indoctrination more so than "education". Wink
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Originally posted by willie:
ma'am, you're the one making blanket statements about business owners and democrats. i'm merely stating the facts. just go turn fox news back on and let them tell you everything you need to know!

and i'm glad you know so many more "business people" than i do.
obviously, they think you're pretty freakin' ignorant too....
otherwise, you'd be making money like the rest of us. if you've been in business that long and have all these glorious contacts, you shouldn't be feeling the economy crunch that bad!
unless you're one of those over extended people waiting on someone to help bail you out!


What are you talking about? I know and work with quite a few small business owners and every single one of them are hurting right now.
about 60% of my work depends on small business owners. i deal with LOTS of them in this area.
by proxy, if i'm ok, they have to be ok.
down, but by no means out! i, personally, have noticed them starting to spend more.
again, i'm speaking of personal experience and this area.
i resent the statement made by jennifer....
how dare someone blanket EVERY democrat small business owner by stating "... If you do well under the democrats because you're involved in some kind of "government handout job....."

to be honest, most republicans i know DO work in some form of government handout job NOW! most work government construction jobs, created by the government to stimulate the economy. and still whining about the "bailouts"! go figure!

i'm done with this argument... you're not gonna change your outlook and nor am i!
have a great new year!
keep moving forward... things are getting better every day! Big Grin

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