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Illegal immigrants allowed at least five strikes


Border-crossings guidelines revealed amid probe into U.S. attorney firings



Documents released in the controversy about eight fired U.S. attorneys show
that federal prosecutors in Texas generally have declined to bring criminal
charges against illegal immigrants caught crossing the border — until at least
their sixth arrest.
A heavily redacted Department of Justice memo from late 2005 disclosed the
prosecution guidelines for immigration offenses, numbers the federal government
tries to keep classified. DOJ officials would not say Thursday whether it has
adjusted the number since the memo was written, citing "law enforcement
reasons."
The prosecution guidelines have been a source of frustration for years among
the ranks of U.S. Border Patrol agents, said T.J. Bonner, president of the
National Border Patrol Council. Smugglers can figure out the criteria by trial
and error, he said, and can exploit it to avoid prosecution.
"It's devastating on morale," Bonner said. "Our agents are risking their lives
out there, and then they're told, 'Sorry, that doesn't meet the criteria.' "
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4654936.html


Our government is working against us. What will it take for folks to get mad
and change this nonsense?
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This is what I understand caused one of the US Attorney's to get fired. She got what she deserved.

These criminal alien ****roaches need to be deported IMMEDIATELY upon catching them. No release....make them pay for their sentence and deport them back to whereever.

Anchor babies of criminal aliens should also be deported with their parents.

I have no pity for lawbreakers and illegals. They spread disease (don't get me started.....), they cause crime in areas there was not previously, they drain public supported and resourced services. Enough is enough. Deport the humane way, or God forbid, more drastic measures will have to be taken to keep our sovereignty.
Brentenman, I have spent the last forty minutes trying to find data to support of discredit your assertion. SO FAR, I have found your assertions, with no supporting data, and I have found some facts about people in the USA from other nations.
One Fact, there are about 35 million Non Citizens in the US on any given day. There are 300 Million people in the USA on any given day.
More than ten percent of the People in the USA are not citizens.
There are an estimated 11 millon people in the USA who are illegally here. That is about one third of the 10% of foreigners in the country. By Definition every one of those 11 millon is a criminal. They are here illegally. Any non citizen convicted of a felony is subject to deportation. That does not mean they were in the country illegally before they committed the felony, it only means that they will be deported after, or during the time they are under sentence. The Number of non citizens incarcerted in prisons around the United States is Variously estimated as between 4 and 14 percent of the total prison population. At 4 percent, the number of convicted criminals who are not citizens is about equal to the percentage of people in the US illegally. at 14 it is nearly three times as high. But, the data, as reported, just does not bear out a certainty in the Statement that Illegals are a primary cause of CRIME.

I have been unable to find ANY data on infectious disease, and, what I have been able to find is even less reliable than the information on incarcerated criminals.

Deportation is AUTOMATIC for illegals, ALL Mexicans who are here illegally are transported, without further ado, to the border and dropped off. OTM (other than Mexican) are either held, and deported, or they are released on OR. The majority of people released OR and never heard from again. They are all subject to criminal prosecution for failure to appear. There are two possible reasons for this. One, they voluntarily return to their country of origin, and two, they go underground, and keep out of trouble so that authorities do not have contact with them ever again.

The illegals represent a cost to the social services almost exactly equal to their percentage of the population. In other words, about 5% of the cost of education goes to educating illegal immigrants, about 5% of the cost of public hospitals covers the cost of illegals. The numbers are big, and would be zero if there were no illegals at all.

I went to a lot of trouble and I visited about 20 different websites to gather this superficial over view of the problem you assert.

Your assertion is correct, and it is a good reason for being concerned, but it hardly rises to a level that justifies your bitter and angry comments.

Much of what I found that says the same kinds of things you are saying has the same short coming, and none of what I found makes clear comparisons between the costs of non citizen crime and citizen crime.

By the way, if the United states would remove all the People At Fort Leavanworth, and send them back to where they reside, the crime rate in the area would drop. Crimes against military personnel would end entirely, and crimes committed by military personnel would also cease.

If we Deport all ILLEGAL aliens, non citizens still in the country legally would account for some crime, and some illness, and some accidents.
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Brentenman, I have spent the last forty minutes trying to find data to support of discredit your assertion. SO FAR, I have found your assertions, with no supporting data, and I have found some facts about people in the USA from other nations.


You can't be serious can you? The things posted by Brentenman are most certainly creditable. I don't know how you did your research but if you would like some help I would be glad to assist you.
The Most Dangerous Gang in America
They're a violent force in 33 states and counting. Inside the battle to police Mara Salvatrucha.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244879/site/newsweek



Illegal Immigrants Are Spreading Dangerous Diseases Across This Nation
http://www.americandaily.com/article/7751



Illegal aliens threaten
U.S. medical system
Docs journal reports hospitals being closed, previously vanquished diseases being spread
Posted: March 13, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker.

He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently.

ut Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275
EdEKit:

My research and knowledge comes from either first hand (that I have witnessed) and second hand (those I personally know, to include sister, wife, brother in law, etc) who have dealt with criminal aliens, primarily in the NW Alabama, South Carolina, Savannah, GA and Metro Atltanta areas. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on....

Your in Arizona...why don't you go to the border, takes some pics, and then share it with us?
Just where do some of you get off the soap box? I don't get it! Illegal aliens? Are you for real? The America Daily, can not be used as a viable footnote as it is not a viable national publication. It is a ultra-converative newsletter available online whose staff consist to two people. But let me go a step farther with this. You can't accept the opinion of anyone without accepting the entire basket. So read ALL the articles of this family before you use them as supporting literature for your subjective viewpoints. For example: they are totally against any new people coming to America. They are also against labor unions, 1000%.. http://www.americandaily.com/article/18096
Now if you live in NW Alabama and have family here, how can you be for everything these people stand for? Another step forward. I am part British, French, Spanish and American Indian. So, that means that I am 3/4th illegal alien. Yes, illegal! No one in the Cherokee Nation or any other indian nation that I am aware of, gave any immigrant advanced permission of a resident visa to enter America. What part illegal alien are you? Anthropologist have no record of any viral infection in North America before the Spanish and Portugese thieves, robbers, rapist and murders came to Florida. 100's of thousands of native Americans were murdered by them or died from the European cultured deseases they brought with them. After the yankees robbed the confederacy and stole control of our nation from the southerners, they sent their carpetbaggers to the south to steal what was left, and they sent the US Army to the west to destroy the native American nations. And they did destroy them, three times. Ultimately when they found that the crappy land they left them in to die in the Black Hills and other places was infested not only with scorpions and nothing edible, but with Gold...uhh, they sent the army in to take them away from there too. So, let me ask you a question. In two more years, when one of these "·$%holes becomes the next president, and they inherit a national deficit that is impossible to recover from (because we have spent more than a TRILLION dollars fighting people we had no business getting involved with)and then they are humiliated because there is no way out of the coming recession, are you going to pay it? I bet you ask the poor immigrant to come pay it, because I get you paid hardly any taxes at all as the person least affected always barks the loudest. And when the hispanic population in this country becomes a driving economic force in our nation as did the black populous, are you still going to call them illegally born immigrants, or are you going to look back 100 or 200 years and realize that probably your great-grandpa was a illegal alien here as well? You know one of the most bureaucratic hipocracies is that you can make a trend or something natural, into a crime just to be politically correct. Are you one of those people who accepts whatever you read just because someone wrote it? Listen, read history and understand that nothing can be prohibited completely unless you are God, and even God failed to do that. The best you can expect to achieve is a more controlled environment or status. So, I submit to you, that immigration could be controlled as it was at the turn of the century when actually most immigrants came to America. They went to sites such as Ellis Island and there were processed and checked for TB and other dreaded deseases. Instead today, hopeful but poor immigrants are not given a fair shake in entering America where they can work at jobs that many Americans do not want. Of course there are exceptions, but there are more to be common to this than to the contrary. And if the truth be known, by far and large, most of the hispanics you are talking about in NW Alabama are here legally, not illegally. And my God man, if they are willing to work honestly, hard and try to do the right thing by their family and our country, then why not give them the benefit of the doubt before you start to try to hang someone. Finally, let me ask you this, what is your connection to the Shoals, because I find that a lot of people writing in the TD forums are not from this area. And I hope that you are not. Because I would hate to think that anyone could be so unchristian and so uncaring for their fellow man that they would not want someone trying to feed their family, to be able to do so. The instances that you and other point out here are about a half dozen, and if you are correct and there are 11,000,000 foreigners in your study, then a half dozen is certainly nothing to speak of. The last murders and violent crimes I am reading in the TD of late, are local people from families that I believe have been here a couple generations or longer and their names are not Juan Valdez. So, please, try to have a more loving attitude toward everyone and think about that maybe its time to put racism in the past. Do you still hate blacks and people of colors other than white equally, or do you simply hate everyone equally as the joke goes? Think about it. And my handle is the same as my name so you can imagine who I am, and by the way, my family was one of the first settlers in this area. And I have two sons, Colombian/USA, and if you ever make such racist remarks toward them or admit your racist beliefs around them in my presence, then be prepared to support those remarks face-to-face and not over this forum.
How can people take remarks as racist when all we are wanting is our government to enforce the laws that is on the books. If you don't agree with them get them changed...but until then those that are here that didn't not go through legal channels are illegals weather they are Hispanic, European, Asian or what ever.

And to those that did go through the pain-staking task of being a legal immigrant, THANK YOU and WELCOME Neighbor.
To bubba, " I would write a book but I know you have never read one and mine would not be the first.
To Schnauzer, " if you don't understand why this is what it is, then I would never be able to make you understand."
To: DHS-86, "I was only responding the string of subsequent replies."
Ti: DHS-86, " your word "eviction" in comparison to MURDER; RAPE and FORCED RELOCATION, is similar to the new spin on deaths attributable to war...Collateral Damage!
wwbowling, Why do you feel I don't understand this, is it because you didn't know that my granddaddy immigrated from Mexico LEGALLY in 1902 when my Great Granddaddy brought him to this country or maybe you didn't know that my granddaddy married a full blooded Comanche off the reservation. Maybe all the racial slurs that I have endured growing up has clouded my judgment but NO I DON"T SEE THIS AS A RACIAL ISSUE.

What I do see is people trying to feed their family...but where do they have the right to break our laws? If all you doing is feeding your family than why can't I go out and rob stores and banks to bring home the bacon. Why, because we have laws and some I agree with and some I don't but I still have to follow them or pay the fiddler. That is what I understand...lets start enforcing the Laws...if they are unjust get them changed.
Schnuazer, LOL, the high cheek bones I have and the fact my great great great grand father took his wife away from the trail the Cherokee were facing,Is just a fact. The Same goes for my Moms history.But in her case it was not the trail of tears. So in Texas somehow they survived. They survived in the west so they could move back here.It's a long story but it is an exception that the documentation is there.
If you care to read about Jesse and Frank You will find a man named John Little, My grandmothers uncle. e'nough said.
wwwBowling, You are obviously a bleeding heart liberal and or a person that uses these criminals that come here to work for cheap wages. You could be a person that has decided to have a sex life with an illegal alien. What ever the case you must obey OUR laws! I'm a direct decedent of Pocahontas on my fathers side. My mother is French and Indian with a great grand mother that
is full blooded Cherokee that lived in McNairy county Tennessee as a result of the trail of tears. Your argument carries NO weight. There is no racism here only law abiding, good wholesome
living. Funny you should bring GOD into this thread:
Christians Should Obey the Laws.

Some people believe they are justified in disobeying government because laws are unfair and officials are corrupt. They justify "civil disobedience" to any law they consider to be unjust.

Romans 13:1-5 -- Be subject to the governing authorities because they are ordained by God (v1). To resist them is to resist the ordinance of God (v2). Government punishes evildoers; do good and you need not worry (v3,4). We must obey, not just because of the wrath of the ruler, but also for conscience' sake (v5) -- i.e., because God commanded us to obey.

1 Peter 2:13,14 -- Submit to civil rulers "for the Lord's sake" -- not just to avoid being caught and punished by the ruler, but to please God. This applies to all laws -- from criminal laws to traffic laws -- and even when we think the laws are unreasonable. We must obey or stand condemned before God.

We have laws governing immigration!


When one cries RACISM it usually shows they don't have a competent leg to stand on.


Disease, unwanted import

Contagious diseases are entering the United States because of immigrants; illegal aliens, refugees and travelers, and World Health Organization officials say the worst could be yet to come.

http://washtimes.com/specialreport/20050212-112200-6485r.htm



LOS ANGELES — This is part three of a five-part series looking at how illegal immigration affects U.S. border security, the criminal, health care and education systems, as well as the economy. Watch the series this week on FOX News Channel.
Overburdened by the uninsured and overwhelmed by illegal immigration (search), public health care in Los Angeles is on life support.
Sixty percent of the county's uninsured patients are not U.S. citizens. More than half are here illegally. About 2 million undocumented aliens in Los Angeles County alone are crowding emergency rooms because they can't afford to see a doctor.
According to the State Association of Hospitals (search), California's public health system is "on the brink of collapse." In Los Angeles County, patients can wait four days for a hospital bed and up to two years for gallbladder surgery.
"The hospitals are closing because of the totality of the uninsured," said Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, director of the Los Angeles County Health Department (search). "If you're legally a resident in California and you're poor, you have a right to basic services."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html



LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: Tonight, border insecurity. President Bush defends his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens. My guest tonight, a senator who plans to legalize a million illegal farm workers.
And deadly imports. The invasion of illegal aliens is threatening the health of many Americans. Highly-contagious diseases are now crossing our borders decades after those diseases had been eradicated in this country. We'll have that special report.

And unfair trade. Our exploding trade deficit with China, the export of American jobs to cheap overseas labor markets. Finally some members of Congress are beginning to pay attention. But is it too late? I'll be talking with a leading economist who says America has lost the battle to attract the world's most talented people.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0504/14/ldt.01.html



25 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation...annel=cctimes_nation http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation...annel=cctimes_nation
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States".
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html
15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and Eight American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each day! (Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore.) http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html
16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c
17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm
18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC): http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm
19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years - fully one-third of the current population of the United States.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
20. U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today unveiled an impact analysis that shows the Senate immigration bill - should it become law - would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to 66 percent of the total current population.
http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=255553&
21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05
http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf
22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S., The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy.." Leprosy is an airbourne virus, it can also be spread by touching and coughing.
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/03_Disease/030226.leprosy.in.US.html
http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2005-03-15/whitford-americanleprosy http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78621
23. Organizations Protesting Immigration Reform, State by State. Won't you join in?
http://www.oregonir.org/Immigration_Reform_Orgs.htm
24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease.
http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm
25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World.
http://www.cnn..com/2004/WORLD/americas/02/18/obit.lopez.ap
Illegal Alien Fact Sheet www.TexasBorderVolunteers.org - Updated: December 10, 2006
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens which translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens (Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa)
Thirteen Americans are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001. (Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa)
Eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day
a total of 2,920 annually. (Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa)
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
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Originally posted by Quarrles:
B-Man I see you have found an alter ego for your hate spewing. Go-Nads Huh? Iam very surprised that the TD Am let you have that one.
Hatred starts destroying on the inside first, right B-Man?
"Let them come unto me".
"Give me your tired and weary longing to be Free."


What is wrong with wanting law breakers to be punished? I usually don't see eye to eye with B-Man or GO-NADS, but I think they are dead on this time. They should round up every illegal and ship them home with the promise of execution if they ever return illegally. It would be much cheaper to round them up than to keep supporting their worthless asses.
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Originally posted by Quarrles:
It is very hard to take a person seriously who can not even spell. Be like the B-man and edit out your hatred before YOU disappear.
Nes pas?



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Deschler 86 I did not call you a moron or any other name. You identified yourself with my remark. Guess you'd know better than me what you are

First of all heed your own words and learn to spell. Secondly, you came on to this post and made the comment about morons after my post. What else should I think? Besides, when someone shows you evidence of his argument, like GN did, and you want to call them morons it speaks volumes for your lack of debate skills. You simply want to start calling names because your view is unpopular.
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Originally posted by Quarrles:
B-Man I see you have found an alter ego for your hate spewing. Go-Nads Huh? Iam very surprised that the TD Am let you have that one.
Hatred starts destroying on the inside first, right B-Man?
"Let them come unto me".
"Give me your tired and weary longing to be Free."


1. No, I don't need an alter-ego.

2. What is so "hateful" about demanding that U.S. laws, borders, way of life, etc. be respected by those who come here? Nothing at all hatefull about that.

Your post, Quarrles, was a cheap-shot, nothing more, nothing less.
Wouldn't know about cheap shots but I don't have to go back and edit my posts to remove threats of shooting people and run and hide my sorry behind until the heat eases as you did Bman. If you don't want to take another tour why not come right out and say you don't and drop this disease bull you're running with a "medical update"post even. Your job is to be a soldier not a malingerer, try doing that and then we'll see who is a cheap shot. I did not see that you reported me to AD, you are a piece of work killer.
Quarrels, You are cracking me up! I enjoy dueling with you on here because your so easy.

I have been watching the Strongest Man in the World Competition on ESPN 2. Bill Kasmeir is hosting. He is from Auburn Alabama. He used to be the strongest man in the world back in the late 70's and early 80's. I was at a meet when he blew a pictorial muscle. He is a good man.
I just discovered an interesting bit of information. I realize I'm in danger of contributing to "guilt by association", which I typically discount without direct linkage & proof, but this one stopped me dead in my tracks.

Do you know where Jeb's wife is from? And I quote "Bush met his wife, Columba, while teaching English in Leon, Guanajato, Mexico in 1971. (Columba was born in Leon in 1954.)

Also, to add just for kicks, Jeb graduated from the University of Texas with a degree in Latin American Affairs.

I wonder exactly how much influence Bush's brother & sister-in-law have...might be worth checking into anyway.
Wow! And so I did look into it...

Lord have mercy, just google "Jeb Bush illegal immigration".

He's apparently for in-state tuition for illegals, calls it plain wrong to charge illegal immigrants with a felony, defended a proposal to allow illegal immigrants to obtain FL driver's licenses & the list goes on.

Of course, this doesn't tell me how much they are able to influence the Bush administration, but it is cause for pause.
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Originally posted by Go Nads:
Quarrles, May your God have mercy on you poor despret soul.
Desperate in The Shoals. Lighten up. Send me your tired, your poor your huddled masses yearning to be free, I will find work for them, and shelter from the storms of life's long trail. Go about your business, and find fortune along the way. You benefit from the labor of others. At least offer us your respect.

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