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Incompetence SHOULD meet the standard for impeachment. I have heard several people comment that "high crimes and mistomeanors" can include incompetence. If bush continues to reject the will of the American people and their elected representatives, he may well face censure or impeachment. Its very clear that bushs failed foreign policy, and his continued pursuit of it,are incompetent. If Clinton deserved impeachment for lying under oath, bushs incompetence deserves the same or at least censure.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Incompetence SHOULD meet the standard for impeachment. I have heard several people comment that "high crimes and mistomeanors" can include incompetence. If bush continues to reject the will of the American people and their elected representatives, he may well face censure or impeachment. Its very clear that bushs failed foreign policy, and his continued pursuit of it,are incompetent. If Clinton deserved impeachment for lying under oath, bushs incompetence deserves the same or at least censure.



A HUGE Applause for you, meanasasnake!!!!!! So very well said!!!!

If Clinton lied about sex... and Bush is now telling so many lies that we are losing count that is KILLING people... going toward 4000 of our Troops, and nearly 70,000 innocent Iraqians...

Now THOSE are lies that not only deserve IMPEACHMENT, but criminal charges that are being looked into... "war crimes"... Hope you guys watched that one on the News last night????
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.



Gosh, this has too many typo's in it to read... I shall try again later, IF they are fixed Big Grin
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.



Okay... I will try it for you Glad to be of assistance

Nobodies opinion is actually No Body's opinion!

incompitient is actually incompetent

tolk is actually told

hteir is actually their

NOW... please, next time "I" commit a typo, which I do a LOT, then feel free to correct them for me

And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.

Sorry, but GWB lies!!!! Hate to be the one to have to tell ya that though Frowner
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.
You are correct Southern Patriot, incompetence is not grounds for impeachment. For me, the incompetence is not the issue.
Illegal wiretapping is not an example of incompetence, it is an example of a crime against the protections granted by the Constitution.
Firing Attorneys who have been confirmed by the US Senate may be "the whim" of the President, but he has to grant the right of review to the Senate. I have fired a couple of people in my lifetime. Most of them after consulting with the people who provided the money for their paychecks. In a few cases I was providing the money, so I consulted myself.
Torturing prisoners is a crime. Under US law, International Law, treaty and common decency. Bush has authorized the torture of people. He has absolved the people who committed the torture of responsibility and accountability.
Bush has mandated that Citizens of the United States be denied access to Public Gatherings.
Bush has denied due process of law to persons arrested on criminal charges, and has defied court orders to provide due process.
Incompetence? NO...those are criminal acts, "justice" demands that Mr. Bush be held to account for them.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.



Okay... I will try it for you Glad to be of assistance

Nobodies opinion is actually No Body's opinion!

incompitient is actually incompetent

tolk is actually told

hteir is actually their

NOW... please, next time "I" commit a typo, which I do a LOT, then feel free to correct them for me

And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.

Sorry, but GWB lies!!!! Hate to be the one to have to tell ya that though Frowner
My spell Checker says it's O Kay, not Okay but will accept OK.
Regarding the re-election of GW Bush, New Mexico started an investigation of the possibility of massive fraud in the elections machines. It was stopped by a lawsuit filed by the Republican Party. Ohio is still fighting to have the elections results audited, and the Republican Secretary of State is still refusing to provide the necessary information to be reviewed. Evidence of tampering with paper ballots in parts of Florida has been suppressed or left without investigation. (just some other reasons for impeachment)
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And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.


Close call? The last election wasn't close at all. The reason Bush won is because he was running against Kerry. People voted for Kerry simply because he wasn't Bush and people voted for Bush to prevent Kerry from getting elected. The majority of people in this country had enough sense not to elect a traitor to the highest office in the land. As for GWB lying, what politician doesn't lie? They all lie, they always will, so get over it.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
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And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.


Close call? The last election wasn't close at all. The reason Bush won is because he was running against Kerry. People voted for Kerry simply because he wasn't Bush and people voted for Bush to prevent Kerry from getting elected. The majority of people in this country had enough sense not to elect a traitor to the highest office in the land. As for GWB lying, what politician doesn't lie? They all lie, they always will, so get over it.
Well, gee, the President, the one who won the popular vote by a hair's breadth, withdrew the nomination of his pal, the financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, to be ambassador to Belgium, BECAUSE THE MAN COULD NOT BE CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE. And those folks KNOW Kerry, Do YOU?
Treason is a pretty heavy charge to lay against anyone, do you have some "evidence?"
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Treason is a pretty heavy charge to lay against anyone, do you have some "evidence?"


He met with the enemy and talked about how bad American troops were and how the American people did not support the war. That encouraged the North Vietnamese to keep up the fight even though they were losing. In other words, he gave aid and comfort to the enemy and that is the definition of treason.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
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Treason is a pretty heavy charge to lay against anyone, do you have some "evidence?"


He met with the enemy and talked about how bad American troops were and how the American people did not support the war. That encouraged the North Vietnamese to keep up the fight even though they were losing. In other words, he gave aid and comfort to the enemy and that is the definition of treason.
He met with the United States Senate. Are you saying they are the "Enemy?"
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Originally posted by NashBama:
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And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.


Close call? The last election wasn't close at all. The reason Bush won is because he was running against Kerry. People voted for Kerry simply because he wasn't Bush and people voted for Bush to prevent Kerry from getting elected. The majority of people in this country had enough sense not to elect a traitor to the highest office in the land. As for GWB lying, what politician doesn't lie? They all lie, they always will, so get over it.



Just how NOT close was it?? Roll Eyes

And as far as all politicians lying, yes they do... that is true, but Bush has looked into television camera's so many times KNOWING he is lying through his teeth to us... he is the biggest liar in politics I have EVER seeen in my life!!!! EVER... and I am quite old, and been voting for over 30 years.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.



Okay... I will try it for you Glad to be of assistance

Nobodies opinion is actually No Body's opinion!

incompitient is actually incompetent

tolk is actually told

hteir is actually their

NOW... please, next time "I" commit a typo, which I do a LOT, then feel free to correct them for me

And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.

Sorry, but GWB lies!!!! Hate to be the one to have to tell ya that though Frowner
My spell Checker says it's O Kay, not Okay but will accept OK.
Regarding the re-election of GW Bush, New Mexico started an investigation of the possibility of massive fraud in the elections machines. It was stopped by a lawsuit filed by the Republican Party. Ohio is still fighting to have the elections results audited, and the Republican Secretary of State is still refusing to provide the necessary information to be reviewed. Evidence of tampering with paper ballots in parts of Florida has been suppressed or left without investigation. (just some other reasons for impeachment)


Thanks Ed.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Nobodies opinion about whether GWB is incompitient qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". Whoever tolk you that was off hteir rocker. It took 20B$ of pork to get 216 DEMS to vote for the useless emergency funding bill the HOR has come up with and we are suppose to believe this is the "will of the people". Give me a break. If the "people" wanted us out of Iraq, GWB wouldn't have been re-elected.



Okay... I will try it for you Glad to be of assistance

Nobodies opinion is actually No Body's opinion!

incompitient is actually incompetent

tolk is actually told

hteir is actually their

NOW... please, next time "I" commit a typo, which I do a LOT, then feel free to correct them for me

And of course, we all KNOW why GWB got re-elected... close call, AGAIN, but re-elected nevertheless... EMPTY PROMISES and LIES... yep, that is what got him slightly over the edge on that election.... lol.

Sorry, but GWB lies!!!! Hate to be the one to have to tell ya that though Frowner
My spell Checker says it's O Kay, not Okay but will accept OK.
Regarding the re-election of GW Bush, New Mexico started an investigation of the possibility of massive fraud in the elections machines. It was stopped by a lawsuit filed by the Republican Party. Ohio is still fighting to have the elections results audited, and the Republican Secretary of State is still refusing to provide the necessary information to be reviewed. Evidence of tampering with paper ballots in parts of Florida has been suppressed or left without investigation. (just some other reasons for impeachment)


Thanks Ed.

The Pleasure was all mine. Wink

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