so democrats have been trying to over turn the election since they were shocked.   In my opinion the have shown they are about power not our country.  At what point does this action become treason?   Three senators sent a letter asking/demanding they help in getting Trump.   Rumor now is this whistle blower was a set up.   The whistle blower was put in there to come up with something to get Trump on.   

it isn't Trump that has divided our country, it is those that won't except the election that divide our country.

I am one that believes we now have treason... be ready to go to the streets patriots .

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The only vocabulary that the democrats want to use is "collusion, collaboration with the Russians, open borders, impeachment, buy back and end of world doom and gloom due to Climate Change" where in there does it say the U.S. citizen deserves an honest Congress, relief from Government over reach and duly elected representation. 

Having failed at proving conspiracy/collusion or obstruction, attempting impeachment on the transcript is thin gruel.  Clearly, Joe Biden violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices act by threatening to deny a $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine, if their prosecutor wasn't immediately fired.  The prosecutor investigating the Ukraine energy company Burisma, which employed Hunter Biden at $50,000 a month.  The prosecutor was fired less than six hours later. Joe even bragged about it on video at a CFR meeting.   Biden crime family at work. 

The Demmies are complaining that Trump wanted Ukraine to interfere in the US elections.  Wasn't it Hillary, who hired a foreigner to write the fake Steele dossier? As sources, the dossier used Russians, including at least two Putin sycophants.  

As to directly interfering with US presidential elections, wasn't it the previous administration that sent FBI agents and agents provocateur into the Trump campaign?  Trust Demmies, what crimes they blame others of, one may be sure they are committing. 

We need to stop throwing the word treason around whenever someone does or says something that is anti-Trump.  The U.S. Constitution defines treason.

Article III, Section 3.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

Nobody can commit treason against the President just by opposing him.  The President is not the elected Monarch so nobody can commit treason against "the crown."  It would be too far a stretch to say that opposing Trump is " adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

OldSalt posted:

We need to stop throwing the word treason around whenever someone does or says something that is anti-Trump.  The U.S. Constitution defines treason.

Article III, Section 3.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

Nobody can commit treason against the President just by opposing him.  The President is not the elected Monarch so nobody can commit treason against "the crown."  It would be too far a stretch to say that opposing Trump is " adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

I remember when Republicans cared more about America than the GOP... those days are obviously over.

Jack Hammer posted:
I remember when the DNC wasn't as treasonous as they are now.
I can't remember when they lied and cheated more than now.
The entire communist Democrat land of thugs has come to this.

There’s one Republican that stands against the Constitution. 

As you said, "against our legally elected president", not against the United States.  Like I said before, nobody can commit treason against the President just by opposing him.  The President is not the elected Monarch so nobody can commit treason against "the crown."  It would be too far a stretch to say that opposing Trump is " levying war against [the United States], or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

1130 posted:

so with all the lies from democrats, false stories , false witnesses, media propaganda against our legally elected president, etc. doesn't equal war?  war isn't always bullets.

The dems don't want to lose their voting slaves that live on Uncle Sam's Plantation.

As to be expected the forum/plantation demorons are very proud of
their corrupt straw bosses. They're in a cold sweat in fear of when
Trump will turn the rock over and expose, impeach, jail and line 
them up unemployed. But what can career criminals do without
a swamp to **** in..?? 
OldSalt posted:

As you said, "against our legally elected president", not against the United States.  Like I said before, nobody can commit treason against the President just by opposing him.  The President is not the elected Monarch so nobody can commit treason against "the crown."  It would be too far a stretch to say that opposing Trump is " levying war against [the United States], or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

It's not in a lib/dims mind to understand the Constitution or realize what
Helda and thugland did to Trump, the Country, Constitution and the 
people. It's treason, like it or not.  
Jack Hammer posted:
OldSalt posted:

As you said, "against our legally elected president", not against the United States.  Like I said before, nobody can commit treason against the President just by opposing him.  The President is not the elected Monarch so nobody can commit treason against "the crown."  It would be too far a stretch to say that opposing Trump is " levying war against [the United States], or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

It's not in a lib/dims mind to understand the Constitution or realize what
Helda and thugland did to Trump, the Country, Constitution and the 
people. It's treason, like it or not.  

Jack, the Constitution has a very specific definition of treason.  So, please explain how opposing Trump is " levying war against [the United States], or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

 

The opposing isn't against Trump, the unlawful war started when
a treasonous attempted coup was staged against the office of a
sitting President/candidate by way of renegade congress members,
CIA, FBI, American citizens, and various foreign countries/spies.
Backed by US dollars, US tax dollars and monies of foreign countries.
 
 
Jack Hammer posted:
The opposing isn't against Trump, the unlawful war started when
a treasonous attempted coup was staged against the office of a
sitting President/candidate by way of renegade congress members,
CIA, FBI, American citizens, and various foreign countries/spies.
Backed by US dollars, US tax dollars and monies of foreign countries.
 
 

So, I guess the empeachment trial of Bill Clinton was an attempted coup and treasonous?  That is the logic you're using.

That's not the logic I'm using, you must feel like a colonoscopy prep
from all the crap you've pulling out of there.
Your spins have never made sense before and now they're just
antifa ridiculous, your misdirected hate is brown shirt typical. 
 
Bill Clinton lied all his life, that point in time he lied like a common
old salty yellow Alinsky lap dog, to the right people. Your ignorant 
psychopath anti American liberal shot himself in the ***. 
L. Cranston posted:

37% of the Republicans, during Watergate, believed Nixon to be innocent.

WOW..!! GOOD GOLLY GEE FREALIN WHIZ..!! SON OF A WITCH..!!

I CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT SHOW, SHUT MY MOUTH, STOPPER

COMES OUT..!! ARE WE LOOKING AT A PULITZER OR WHAT..!!??

 

 

Jack Hammer posted:
That's not the logic I'm using, you must feel like a colonoscopy prep
from all the crap you've pulling out of there.
Your spins have never made sense before and now they're just
antifa ridiculous, your misdirected hate is brown shirt typical. 
 
Bill Clinton lied all his life, that point in time he lied like a common
old salty yellow Alinsky lap dog, to the right people. Your ignorant 
psychopath anti American liberal shot himself in the ***. 

Here I need trying to have a rational discussion and Jack goes far insane right with a foaming at the mouth neofascist hate-filled rant.  

OldSalt posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
That's not the logic I'm using, you must feel like a colonoscopy prep
from all the crap you've pulling out of there.
Your spins have never made sense before and now they're just
antifa ridiculous, your misdirected hate is brown shirt typical. 
 
Bill Clinton lied all his life, that point in time he lied like a common
old salty yellow Alinsky lap dog, to the right people. Your ignorant 
psychopath anti American liberal shot himself in the ***. 

Here I need trying to have a rational discussion and Jack goes far insane right with a foaming at the mouth neofascist hate-filled rant.  

Don't you just love it when they blow snot bubbles and scream about the Clintons.

Republicans: I don't care what Trump did 10 years ago.
also Republicans: Would you look at what we believe the Clinton's did 10 years ago.

What I've enjoyed for a few years is L. Cranky repeating my posts,
out of context of course but glad to help the with his verbiage.
 
Ms Cracky and the Salt lick are two out of control lap dogs.
I'm aware of accusing me of their stupidity. A rational discussion
with either one was out the window Nov. 2016. 
OldSalt posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
That's not the logic I'm using, you must feel like a colonoscopy prep
from all the crap you've pulling out of there.
Your spins have never made sense before and now they're just
antifa ridiculous, your misdirected hate is brown shirt typical. 
 
Bill Clinton lied all his life, that point in time he lied like a common
old salty yellow Alinsky lap dog, to the right people. Your ignorant 
psychopath anti American liberal shot himself in the ***. 

Here I need trying to have a rational discussion and Jack goes far insane right with a foaming at the mouth neofascist hate-filled rant.  

Isn't it Hillaryous (see what I did there. ha)  when they get so triggered and can't even make a coherent post.

OldSalt posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
The opposing isn't against Trump, the unlawful war started when
a treasonous attempted coup was staged against the office of a
sitting President/candidate by way of renegade congress members,
CIA, FBI, American citizens, and various foreign countries/spies.
Backed by US dollars, US tax dollars and monies of foreign countries.
 
 

So, I guess the empeachment trial of Bill Clinton was an attempted coup and treasonous?  That is the logic you're using.

Clinton was actually guilty so the two cases are nothing alike.  Very feeble attempt at trying to compare them.

opposing and spying, lying are a bit difference.   The fake story on Russia, false witnesses.  Then add the planted whistle blowers.   Clinton had sex in the white house with a 22 year old girl. No one planted her to set him up.  

1130 posted:

opposing and spying, lying are a bit difference.   The fake story on Russia, false witnesses.  Then add the planted whistle blowers.   Clinton had sex in the white house with a 22 year old girl. No one planted her to set him up.  

Then he lied about it UNDER OATH.....lying under oath=impeachment and the piece of crap was still left in office.

OldSalt posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
The opposing isn't against Trump, the unlawful war started when
a treasonous attempted coup was staged against the office of a
sitting President/candidate by way of renegade congress members,
CIA, FBI, American citizens, and various foreign countries/spies.
Backed by US dollars, US tax dollars and monies of foreign countries.
 
 

So, I guess the empeachment trial of Bill Clinton was an attempted coup and treasonous?  That is the logic you're using.

giftedamateur posted:
OldSalt posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
The opposing isn't against Trump, the unlawful war started when
a treasonous attempted coup was staged against the office of a
sitting President/candidate by way of renegade congress members,
CIA, FBI, American citizens, and various foreign countries/spies.
Backed by US dollars, US tax dollars and monies of foreign countries.
 
 

So, I guess the empeachment trial of Bill Clinton was an attempted coup and treasonous?  That is the logic you're using.

Clinton was actually guilty so the two cases are nothing alike.  Very feeble attempt at trying to compare them.

And interesting to see that mentioning Bill and Hill is perfectly fine IF you're a liberal...even though Hillary makes sure to stay in the news 24-7 by running her mouth and going on TV shows with her and Web's daughter Chelsea the left has a melt down when anyone mentions her or her illegal activities.

L. Cranston posted:

I'm so far ahead of you, you think you're in the lead. ha!

A centenarian but mentally about 6 attempting to coax people into
his sandbox, I'm good but you keep sifting sand for those nuggets 
you enjoy playing with so much. Felix the cat coming your way.
 
In the lead of exactly what   ha..???

 

Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:

I'm so far ahead of you, you think you're in the lead. ha!

A centenarian but mentally about 6 attempting to coax people into
his sandbox, I'm good but you keep sifting sand for those nuggets 
you enjoy playing with so much. Felix the cat coming your way.
 
In the lead of exactly what   ha..???

 

Get back to me when you pass that GED.

L. Cranston posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:

I'm so far ahead of you, you think you're in the lead. ha!

A centenarian but mentally about 6 attempting to coax people into
his sandbox, I'm good but you keep sifting sand for those nuggets 
you enjoy playing with so much. Felix the cat coming your way.
 
In the lead of exactly what   ha..???

 

Get back to me when you pass that GED.

Get back to me when you're ahead

Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
L. Cranston posted:

I'm so far ahead of you, you think you're in the lead. ha!

A centenarian but mentally about 6 attempting to coax people into
his sandbox, I'm good but you keep sifting sand for those nuggets 
you enjoy playing with so much. Felix the cat coming your way.
 
In the lead of exactly what   ha..???

 

Get back to me when you pass that GED.

Get back to me when you're ahead

L. Cranston posted:

I'm so far ahead of you, you think you're in the lead. ha!

How soon they forget.

For Salt---A description of the documentary "The Clinton Affair" first aired on A&E.

 "The Clinton Affair" first aired on A&E. It is unreal how Clinton wormed out of that mess, but of course he had the help of the media, the DNC, crooked lawyers, his villainous "wife", and whether you believe it or not, he was unknowingly helped by honest Republicans who were "had" by slick willy because they, wrongfully, thought he would be truthful. It is an eye opener...and we can see how the Clintons have been protected all these years.

It's hard to take. He smirks, clowns, talks down to people because he knows he's getting away with it. I was surprised to see how big the part Lewinsky had in the cover up, and how she too protected him. But he was leading her on, making her think they were going to end up together.

It's not just about Monica lying. It is also about how all his misdeeds were always covered up. Paula Jones subpoenaed Juanita Broderick because Jones knew about Clinton raping Broderick. A CBS reporter asked for and got an interview with Broderick and for the first time, to any news outlet, she told the story. The head of CBS asked the reporter what she thought and the reporter said she believed Broderick. The reporter said CBS killed the story because they didn't want Clinton hurt politically. Also, in this you will see Bill Clinton admit to his affair with Gennifer Flowers, an affair he had always denied and had asked her to lie about. He said the affair was only a year, while Flowers, friends and family all say it was a 12 year affair.

 

Flower's cousin was on the game show "Deal or No Deal" and mentioned Bill Clinton. Howie Mandel asked her how she knew Clinton and she replied..."I met him many times when he was dating my cousin Gennifer Flowers. They were together 12 years".

 

 

 

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