In the Beginning

What about those that don't believe in Christianity? What about those religions that existed before Christianity?

Tough doodies. This earth was founded on Christian principals. Remember, the Word was with God and the Word WAS God.

You should also know that all things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

You need to look up and really read the history of Christianity.

Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism and Buddhism. Ask any pastor that has their PhD in Theology to explain it to you.

Oh, now I get it, it's all so clear!

Can you clear up where Cain's wife came from, and why he was building a city?

Again, I will say it one more time. There is no official religion in this country. Everyone has the right to pray to the God of their choosing.

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Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism and Buddhism.

Blasphemer.

I do not need any pastor to explain to me that in Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

You are evidently dark and cannot be comprehended. Ask Crusty. I think he gets it.

Proper, evangelical Christianity is the official religion of the USA. Anyone who doesn't like it, hard cheese.

You got to get right with Jesus to be a citizen here. Ask GW Bush the Elder. He ought to know, he was President.

DF

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Originally posted by Skeptik:

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Hinduism, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism and Buddhism.

Blasphemer.

I do not need any pastor to explain to me that in Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

You are evidently dark and cannot be comprehended. Ask Crusty. I think he gets it.

Well go and educate yourself since you are afraid to have a pastor to educate you. Or are they in the "dark" to?

Skeptic,

I'm getting it, but I still need one or two things clarified.

Now, the Word was god, and god was the Word, but they're still separate. So far, so good.

But the Word is not just a word, it's a thing, so words are things, and things are words, and god is both a thing and a word and a wordthing, but not necessarily.

So, when you speak a word, you make a thing, because we wouldn't use words for which there are not things, and the things are words, too.

Doh! It's all so clear now.


DF

Where does "The L Word" fit into this?

Linguine!

His Noodliness is very happy you remembered.


DF

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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Linguine!

His Noodliness is very happy you remembered.


DF

RAmen.

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So, when you speak a word, you make a thing, because we wouldn't use words for which there are not things, and the things are words, too.

According to the Word, that is only partially correct.

Let's try this: You know that the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. The only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

Explained him, man. Explained.

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Well go and educate yourself since you are afraid to have a pastor to educate you.

Obviously, this Wordy stuff is way over the heads of you rational people. It's sad. Just sad.

Spread eagle your mind to the Lord!

Word up.

DF

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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Skeptic,

I'm getting it, but I still need one or two things clarified.

Now, the Word was god, and god was the Word, but they're still separate. So far, so good.

But the Word is not just a word, it's a thing, so words are things, and things are words, and god is both a thing and a word and a word thing, but not necessarily.

So, when you speak a word, you make a thing, because we wouldn't use words for which there are not things, and the things are words, too.

Doh! It's all so clear now.


DF

I think you got the whole Logos thing down pat. Congratulations, advance now to graduate level studies. Your next assignment is Agape.

There's agape between this hill and that one.

I recommend drilling a hole in your head for the lord, 3/8 inch works, use a funnel to pour in the heavenly spirit.

Remove funnel and replace with a small cork or silly putty.

A hat is optional.

Jesus = The Word
The Word = Jesus

Jesus was from the beginning, He was with God the Father. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were One from the beginning...and all that was made was made by them. Jesus has been around forever and it was part of the plan from the beginning that He would eventually have to sacrifice His life for us.

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Originally posted by Eye-gor:
There's agape between this hill and that one.

Close, ooooohhhhh so close!

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Originally posted by _Monet-Lisa_:
Jesus = The Word
The Word = Jesus

Jesus was from the beginning, He was with God the Father. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were One from the beginning...and all that was made was made by them. Jesus has been around forever and it was part of the plan from the beginning that He would eventually have to sacrifice His life for us.

Monet, you get it too! Will you now tell us about the Holy Ghost?

I think I just did, Crusty

But, I do know the Holy Spirit is the one who helps you understand all these things you all obviously do not understand. Read Romans 10:9-10, follow that plan of salvation. When you accept Christ as you Lord and Saviour, you will be given the Holy Spirit and He will make things more clear and understandable for you.

No can do, Monet. As a rapturing Presbyterian literalist my Lord's Prayer and King James include only the Holy Ghost as the third point in the most Holy Trinity. We all know that there has to be some spooky stuff to keep the doubtful in line. I read it, I pray it, it must be true because God tells me so.

This ain't no pep rally we're talking here, spirit ain't enough, the Holy Ghost must invest himself into your body and soul.

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I recommend drilling a hole in your head for the lord, 3/8 inch works, use a funnel to pour in the heavenly spirit.

Remove funnel and replace with a small cork or silly putty.

We did that in Vacation Bible School. I'm not doing it again.


DF

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Originally posted by DeepFat:

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I recommend drilling a hole in your head for the lord, 3/8 inch works, use a funnel to pour in the heavenly spirit.

Remove funnel and replace with a small cork or silly putty.

We did that in Vacation Bible School. I'm not doing it again.


DF

I thought that this was the procedure for letting the evil spirits OUT. Seems like you were in a cult.

drilling that hole made him so open-minded that his brains fell out!

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Jesus was from the beginning, He was with God the Father. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were One from the beginning...and all that was made was made by them. J

Another blasphemer. The Bible clearly says, "In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made."

That cannot be any clearer. If the ruler of the universe meant to say "Jesus" instead if "The Word" then, by God, he would have said "Jesus."

The WORD Monet. WORD.

If it had been "The Time" instead of the Word, we'd all be singing, "Oh we oh we oh!"

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"Oh we oh we oh!"

Ear worm!

I'll hear that all day now!

What you need is another song to remove that one.

How about...

Manamana (Doot Doo do do doot)

Manamana (Doot Doo do do doot!)


Manamana (Doot Doo do do doot, do do doot, do do doot, do doot doot da dooda, doot doot doo doot doot!)

Sue me if I have an extra doot in there.


DF

Ear Worm Antidote

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Originally posted by Skeptik:

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Jesus was from the beginning, He was with God the Father. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were One from the beginning...and all that was made was made by them. J

Another blasphemer. The Bible clearly says, "In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made."

That cannot be any clearer. If the ruler of the universe meant to say "Jesus" instead if "The Word" then, by God, he would have said "Jesus."

The WORD Monet. WORD.

Yes, and later in the New Testament this scripture is referred to, speaking of Jesus...(He was the Word)

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth" (MATTHEW 5:5).

This well known statement of our Lord is taken
from the sermon on the mount; from the part some call "The Beatitudes". The word "meek" means to be gentle, humble or considerate. It is the opposite of arrogance and violence. Those
who are willing to share and sacrifice in behalf of others are meek. Those who seek for domination and will use any means to trample and crush others are the opposite of what the Lord refers to here.

Meekness does not mean weakness! It does not mean one must cower or retreat from principles. It does not involve the surrender of ones rights.

Feed the ear worms.


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DF

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Originally posted by _Monet-Lisa_:

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Originally posted by Skeptik:

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Jesus was from the beginning, He was with God the Father. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were One from the beginning...and all that was made was made by them. J

Another blasphemer. The Bible clearly says, "In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made."

That cannot be any clearer. If the ruler of the universe meant to say "Jesus" instead if "The Word" then, by God, he would have said "Jesus."

The WORD Monet. WORD.

Yes, and later in the New Testament this scripture is referred to, speaking of Jesus...(He was the Word)

Hi Fish,

Actually, John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" does indeed tell us that Jesus Christ was and is God.

The first part is, “In the beginning was the Word . . .” (in Greek, en arche en ho logos). In the “beginning” of what? “In the beginning” refers to the creation. This is saying that, at the creation of our universe and our world, the Word (Logos), Jesus Christ, already existed. It is saying that He already was when the world was created; it is saying that He is eternal, it is saying that He is preexisting, therefore He is God. In the Septuagint, which is the Old Testament translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into the Greek language (about 300 BC), the verse Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” also uses the same Greek phrase “en arche” which means “in the beginning.”[/]I

The second phrase, [I] “. . . and the Word was with God . . .” [/]I(in Greek, [I]kai ho logos en pros theon). Jesus was with God the Father throughout eternity. The Greek phrase for “with God”[/]I is [I]“pros theos” and this wording in the Greek language implies an equality, a close association. In other words, God the Son, Jesus, and God the Father are equal in deity, equal in divinity, equal in Godly attributes --- and They are very close. They, equally, with the Holy Spirit, are the Godhead. Jesus was with God the Father throughout eternity; He was and is eternally God the Son.

And the third phrase closes the door on any doubt, “. . . and the Word was God.” (in Greek, kai theos en ho logos). This phrase leaves no doubt that Jesus Christ is deity, He is God! In the Greek language this phrase is literally saying, “and God was the Word.” --- kai (and) theos (God) en (was) ho (the) logos (Word) --- and God was the Word! God was Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is God.

So, Fish, even though you still insist upon taking God's name in vain -- I do hope that I have shown you that the Bible does indeed say that Jesus, Logos, Word, Messiah, the Anointed One -- is God. He is the Living Word of God; the Bible is the Written Word of God.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Everybody knows
the bird is the word.



DF

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The first part is, “In the beginning was the Word . . .” (in Greek, en arche en ho logos)

Brother,

You completely skipped over the best part about the word "Word." I mean, you said it there ("logos") but ya just skipped right over the real meaning behind that word and inserted something completely different from what it actually means.

I am shocked, SHOCKED, that you would twist meaning that way! I mean, if you're gonna be a bible literalist, then why all these far-fetched interpretations?

Come on man. Anxious, terrified, fundamental minds wanna know: What does that "logos" stuff really mean? What's it really sayin' bro?

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Hi Fish,

Actually, John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" does indeed tell us that Jesus Christ was and is God.

I thought I was Fish!

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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Word up.

DF

Heeeeeyyy....