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I would be remiss for not recognizing the fact that, 10 years ago today, 2998 people were murdered in the name of fundamentalist religion.  The last words repeated by some of the hijackers that spoke over the radio was "God is good!"  They truly believed they would enter paradise where they would be greeted by 72 virgins would would attend to them for eternity.

This religious fervor is very much like the same fundamentalist hatred we see here in this forum and across this nation.  The same kind of fundamentalist reasonaing causes people to hate those who do not believe exactly what their holy books tells them to believe.  Those of us who employ rational thinking and call BS on every one of those holy books are  the most distrusted and hated people in the nation.  And the sheeple wonder why we seem so angry.

9-11 was the beginning of the end of my religious faith that I had held so dear for so long.  It was a wake up call to all believers to embrace that bit of doubt we all have at the core - even if we hide that doubt from ourselves.

"Allahu Akbar!  Allahu Akbar!  Allahu Akbar!" were the last sounds heard from Flight 93.

 

"God is Good! God is Good! God is Good!"

 

 

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Awesome post! But sadly most will spend the day thanking God. They will pray that their God protects them from those heathens with a different God, and it just keeps going and going and going.....

 

I will spend my day thinking of those lost so needlessly. Those whose lives were worth less than imaginary men in the sky. Those people who were used in a sick game of my Gods better than your God.

 

We have all seen what fundy religion can do....and it is not good.

Not to take anything away from anyone, but what I notice about all the 9/11 coverage is the LACK of mention of all the planes crashed that day. Some people don't even know how many there were because one gets all the attention. What stays on my mind when 9/11 is discussed are the children killed that day. The youngest was 2. Killed in the name of religion.

Unob, you disgust me. You just compared the people on this forum to the people who drove those planes into those buildings. And you WONDER why some of us don't like you? If you don't want to believe in God, so be it.

 

But the HATRED is coming from YOU, not us.

 

I don't recall anyone here comparing you and other atheists to murdering terrorists. If you REALLY believe that we are no different from them, then you must be mentally deranged. If you DON'T really believe we are no different from terrorists, then it is obvious that your hatred of Christians is consuming you.

 

Get help.

Originally Posted by O No!:

Unob, you disgust me. You just compared the people on this forum to the people who drove those planes into those buildings.

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Why yes,  Yes I did.  That was exactly my point and I am glad it did not go over your fundamentalist head. 

 

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But the HATRED is coming from YOU, not us.

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Hatred of religion?  Yes. I'm glad you can easily detect that. 

But Hatred of you or groups of people?  No.  Contrary to what you might think I do not even hate you, Ono, although I know the feeling is NOT mutual.  You and your fellow believers are to be pitied, not hated.  Pitied for what years of indoctrination and ignorance can do to a malleable brain.

No, I'd never hate you but I do despise your religion for what it has done to me, you, Bill Gray and the 2998 people who were murdered 10 years ago in the name of your God.
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I don't recall anyone here comparing you and other atheists to murdering terrorists. If you REALLY believe that we are no different from them, then you must be mentally deranged.

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Ono, you are the one who claims to speak with and receive commands from the Gods, not I. And *I* am the one who is deranged? 

Do you think these murderous fundamentalists would have done the things they did if they did NOT believe in an afterlife?

That is the second time you have referred to me as a fundy, even though you know full well that I believe in science and evolution. Fundies don't, and you know that. 

 

That shows me that you aren't interested in truth, but that you are lashing out at me because I called you on your overt hatred. You are trying as hard as you can to insult me, but your insults don't sting because  I consider that the source of these insults is a poor LOST soul who would rather lie, twist people's words, and fling hatred toward any of us who SEE THROUGH YOU, than be HONEST.

 

No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

Originally Posted by Ronnie P.:

You people can't just give it a rest.  Now you are using a national tragedy to push your agenda.   I guess I'll have to add classless to bald in my view in the average atheist.

 

 

I can't "give it a rest".  Watching those planes fly into the towers was one of the scariest things I had ever witnessed. I don't want that to happen again. Today is a day of remembrance. Remember who and what did this to our country and to those innocent people that died. Fundamentalist Religion. Their God or your God doesn't matter, there are those that would kill over it and we should not forget it.

Originally Posted by O No!:

 

No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

 

 

Ya know.....once again you came into a discussion and started calling people names and being nasty.  Your ability to project onto others is astounding. I don't know what you are or what you believe, nor do I personally care. I will say that whatever it is I want nothing to do with it. You seem like a very unhappy person that is full of anger.

 

You don't have a pilots license do you????????

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:
Originally Posted by O No!:

 

No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

 

 

Ya know.....once again you came into a discussion and started calling people names and being nasty.  Your ability to project onto others is astounding. I don't know what you are or what you believe, nor do I personally care. I will say that whatever it is I want nothing to do with it. You seem like a very unhappy person that is full of anger.

 

You don't have a pilots license do you????????

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Cute. You've just got to get in on this, don't you? You are another one who has refused to accept any answers that you don't like. I LOVE a good debate, but you and Unob are two who can not be debated with because when you hear something you don't like, you either pretend to misunderstand, or pretend you didn't hear it at all. And you TRULY expect people to RESPECT you? I have more respect for the little girl on the playground who sticks her fingers in her ears and hollers, "I can't hear you!" - at least she has a chance of growing out of it.

Originally Posted by O No!:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel:
Originally Posted by O No!:

 

No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

 

 

Ya know.....once again you came into a discussion and started calling people names and being nasty.  Your ability to project onto others is astounding. I don't know what you are or what you believe, nor do I personally care. I will say that whatever it is I want nothing to do with it. You seem like a very unhappy person that is full of anger.

 

You don't have a pilots license do you????????

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Cute. You've just got to get in on this, don't you? You are another one who has refused to accept any answers that you don't like. I LOVE a good debate, but you and Unob are two who can not be debated with because when you hear something you don't like, you either pretend to misunderstand, or pretend you didn't hear it at all. And you TRULY expect people to RESPECT you? I have more respect for the little girl on the playground who sticks her fingers in her ears and hollers, "I can't hear you!" - at least she has a chance of growing out of it.

 

 

I don't care if you respect me or not. It really does not keep me up at night. Of course you have more respect for the child that puts their fingers in their ears and does not want to hear the truth or reason. I am sure you can relate to that kind of mentality. It is how I see most Christians.  What I don't understand is how someone who claims to be intelligent can believe some of the things you post on this forum.  I am not pretending. I really don't get it. There is no logic or reason to it.

 

I was the second person to post on this thread, then you came along and started being nasty. So who was it that just HAD  to get in on this???

The best what?

 

Ok back to the topic at hand before O No tried to side track it and personally attack Unob.

 

Do you all think that it is a valid arguement when Muslims say that those that flew planes into the Towers were not "real Muslims"?  We hear it all the time from the Christian fundy side. Anytime someone does something evil in the name of the Christian God then you hear "well he/she was not a real Christian" Such a lame response IMO.

 

Fanatical fundamentalist religion is trying to take over this country and is a danger to us all. I hope that those believers with some sense will fight with non-believers to stop them in their tracks. Don't let them take over our country and kill innocent people who dare to disagree with them. The deaths on 9/11 should stand as a remembrance of just how far that kind of thinking can and will go. As good, caring human beings we should do our part to stop it.

Hard question to answer dark. On the one hand you don't want to think all muslims or christians hate us and would love to see us dead, but then you see that they don't do a lot to stop what they call "radical factions" in their religion.  And do christians cut muslims or others any slack or do they lump them all together? When the nutjob preacher burned the koran, knowing it would get innocent people killed, he had the overwhelming support of most christians. What about non-violent followers of the koran? Bill always whines about no respect if you say omg, or other phrases, saying it "insults" christians. But he has no problem insulting non-believers or people that believe differently than he does. He's insinuated I'm g a y, LOL, and look at what he posted to wooly about his avatar. So I guess it's way to muddled to know what's really in all their minds. I guess the best advice is to just be on guard with them.

Jennifer says: "When the nutjob preacher burned the koran, knowing it would get innocent people killed, he had the overwhelming support of most christians."

 

Well Jennifer, unlike you, I won't make an accusation of LYING, I'll just ask you if you're SURE of that statement, and tp please show us PROOF.

 

The FACT is that the overwhelming majority of Christians OBJECTED, and quite loudly, both the ones on this forum, and in other media too.

 

Here are the FACTS:

 


http://articles.cnn.com/2010-0...ms-religion?_s=PM:US


The National Association of Evangelicals, the nation's largest umbrella evangelical group, issued a statement urging the church to cancel the event, warning it could cause worldwide tension between the two religions.


http://www.christianpost.com/n...uran-burnings-46642/

 

As thousands of Muslims worldwide gathered over the weekend to protest one Florida group's plans to burn copies of Islam’s sacred text on the upcoming anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Christian leaders – liberal and conservative – reaffirmed their opposition to the burnings.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 Bill always whines about no respect if you say omg, or other phrases, saying it "insults" christians. But he has no problem insulting non-believers or people that believe differently than he does. He's insinuated I'm g a y, LOL, and look at what he posted to wooly about his avatar.

 

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Don't be fooled by Bill, he is not a Christian.

Originally Posted by O No!:

That is the second time you have referred to me as a fundy, even though you know full well that I believe in science and evolution. Fundies don't, and you know that. 

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True, but your roots are showing, 

 

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No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

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You have absolutely no idea what kind of person I am, Ono. Not do I know anything about you except the hatred you display towards me and others on this forum.  When you are ready to call a truce, please let me know.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
 

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You have absolutely no idea what kind of person I am, Ono. Not do I know anything about you except the hatred you display towards me and others on this forum.  When you are ready to call a truce, please let me know.

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Damm boy, for you to say that to ONo, or anyone else you spue your

hate toward.

Did you not know, you sick and sad piece of flem, you're the worst one.

What a evil egotistical *******.

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Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by O No!:

That is the second time you have referred to me as a fundy, even though you know full well that I believe in science and evolution. Fundies don't, and you know that. 

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True, but your roots are showing, 

 

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No, Unob, I don't hate you, but neither do I respect you. And that is NOT because you're an atheist, but because of the type of person you have shown yourself to be.  

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You have absolutely no idea what kind of person I am, Ono. Not do I know anything about you except the hatred you display towards me and others on this forum.  When you are ready to call a truce, please let me know.

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on the otherhand unoi i know more about you than anyone on here.

Ono why you argue with this less-than-human mad-dog is beyond me.


 

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