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Originally Posted by O No!:

Listen sweetie, I am NOT a liar. We have had this discussion countless times on this forum, and if you will reread my post, you will see that I said:

 

"Why is it that every time there is a tragic, violent episode of any sort, atheists cry, "Christian fanatic!" and Christians cry, "Godless atheist!" When are we going to admit to ourselves and each other that there are plenty of crazy people to go around - Christian, atheist, right wing and left wing."

 

In other words, trying to blame the acts of a crazy person on their religion or their politics is childish and pointless. Remember when Loughner shot all those people in Arizona? Immediately the right wingers and the left wingers started to blame it on his politics, each side claiming he was a member of the opposing side.

 

This is the same. The guy is nuts. Has nothing to do with his religion. Nuts is nuts, and nuts come in all flavors, religious, atheist, Democrat, Republican, male, female, whatever else you can think of. Instead of pointing fingers at whichever group we oppose, perhaps we should just be thinking about the victims and their families.

 

 

It is not childish and pointless to connect the dots between these crimes and what drives these nuts to do them. I know that Christians really hate to have it pointed out every time it happens, I would too if I associated with such an immoral and dangerous group. I remember Loughner and I also remember all the Christians that said it was because he was atheist. As far as I can remember of recent history he is one of the only nut cases that went on a killing spree that could be labeled atheist. As I said in the earlier post, would you like to take a walk down memory lane and point out the violent attacks associated with professed religious nuts? Why should any intelligent and logical person ignore the common factor in these types of crimes? That is just plain stupid.

 

And Hun, I wasn't calling you specifically a liar. But if you want to step up and continue the lie I was referring to then by all means you can go a head and take it to include you too.

 

Now once again (since you seem to pride yourself on your superior grammar abilities) Can you show me where I said anything about Christians or where I said they were in anyway all responsible? Also while you are at it do you care to comment on the things that this Rammlmn character says here in the forums on a daily basis? I find it very odd that we atheist can't even say the word "delusional" in association with Christianity or religion with out being flogged by you and several others. Yet this maniac says some of the most horrid things I have ever read on any forum about us atheist and not a word from your camp. Your fake appeal to stop stereo typing and not be so generalizing of each others beliefs and (for what ever reason) politics just sounds like a bunch of lip flapping when you ignore the scary and horrendous things Ramm says and ponce on my comment about the religious nut in Norway. Get off that high horse before you fall off and knock some sense into yourself.

Sorry hOn, I am not Ramn, I am not responsible for him or for anything he says. Your buddies Jimmy and Opie say some pretty nasty things too, but I don't think of it as your or any other atheist's job to put them in their place. If you don't like what a person posts, I suggest you just ingnore them.

 

And I also suggest you get a firmer grip on reality. Your insistence on blaming all of the world's ills on religion seems to be driving you to say things that any rational person would see as an obsession. 

Dark dear if you only knew the truth. Any abrasiveness in my posts is directly proportional to just how stupid I think you atheistic s are.[ Disregarding their deficiet in scientific knowledge] an exception for DeefFat, Pup and Unoi. The combined intelligence of the rest of you birds would not equal that of a rusty horse shoe. I love y’all dearly as primates and have fun with you all but get-a-grip. If i  bother youns don’t pay attention to what I say. You are getting on us believers nerve.

 

 

P.S. That is not to cut Unoi any slack for his bi-polar behavior.

Jesus H. Christ. I come on here once a month or so and every time I do one of you guys accuse me of being obsessed. When I go back and look at the past post it is always someone like you that is here almost daily. How bout you get a grip on reality.

 

I don't expect you to answer for Ramm.  He is just another religious nut that many of you claim doesn't really exist. I just found it odd that you picked that one part out of my post (and implied I said Christians) to him to try and say we shouldn't be so onesided in our views. Yet didn't have a thing to say to him or any of the others on here that speak so negatively about atheism. We can take it. I am just once again pointing out the double standard that is alive and well with the Christians on this forum.

Originally Posted by O No!:

I DID discuss the so-called "facts" of your post, but I couldn't resist making a second post about your trouble with the language. It seems YOU would rather call me a liar and try to stir up trouble than address the facts from MY post.

 

 

 

Of course you couldn't pass up an opportunity to be a snotty beotch to me. That would have been so unlike you.  What facts? That the Norway nut wasn't also a fundamental Christian?  That was another lie on your part.

So back to the original subject. I have a really hard time understanding how the "good" Catholics don't stand up and do something about their leadership. I mean what does it say about someones morals if they knowingly support a group of child molesters and their protectors? How do any of you that are part of that religious group stomach that kind of evil in your leaders? Can't you be a Catholic without supporting the church?

You apparently have some kind of problem with reading comprehension. Show me where ANY of us Christians have EVER said there is no such thing as a religious nut. You can't, because no one ever DID. So, following your lead, I guess I might as well just say that makes YOU a liar.

 

Double standard? Yes, you DO have a double standard. You just LOVE to insult Christians, you and most of the other atheists here. (There are SOME who don't, like Pup, but between you and some of the others...)

 

Either you are just SAYING these things to try to get in your digs, or you really believe them. If you really believe them, I would say YOU are delusional, and that delusion has nothing to do with religion or no religion. It has to do with some sort of mental/emotional problem.

Dark dear, part of the problem is the likes of deep and unoi. From way back the only thing those two knew or understood was brutality. They were the Bobsy Twins of atheismistics and us believers didn’t even know anything of that nature even existed here in this li’l corner of heaven. We all passed some pretty hefty blows but they were always against an immovable force in either direction. They daily uttered the most dispicable renderings of the English Language which caused the foundations of the Earth to tremble.Then you sissies came along and we projected their character into you all not realizing you were so impressionable and tender. Don’t think its all meant for you. Just realize when we hear atheistisismatic language we have a natural reflex, its deep or unoi.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:
Originally Posted by O No!:

I DID discuss the so-called "facts" of your post, but I couldn't resist making a second post about your trouble with the language. It seems YOU would rather call me a liar and try to stir up trouble than address the facts from MY post.

 

 

 

Of course you couldn't pass up an opportunity to be a snotty beotch to me. That would have been so unlike you.  What facts? That the Norway nut wasn't also a fundamental Christian?  That was another lie on your part.

 

 

Good Lord another retard.

This is a topic beyond belief.  Catholic priests have been buggering children for (at least) decades, and the management of the Church has protected them from punishment.  By relocating the offending priests to new parishes, they endangered more children.
It's just that simple.  There is no argument to the contrary.

 

There are many questions to be answered.  I will pose only one.  If Christianity possesses the one, true morality, and the spirit of Christ instills it into believers, then how do professional Christians fall so often into such a horrid sin?

 

It's safe to say that Christianity does not make even its believers moral.  That implies the question "What good is it, then?".

 

DF

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

This is a topic beyond belief.  Catholic priests have been buggering children for (at least) decades, and the management of the Church has protected them from punishment.  By relocating the offending priests to new parishes, they endangered more children.
It's just that simple.  There is no argument to the contrary.

 

There are many questions to be answered.  I will pose only one.  If Christianity possesses the one, true morality, and the spirit of Christ instills it into believers, then how do professional Christians fall so often into such a horrid sin?

 

It's safe to say that Christianity does not make even its believers moral.  That implies the question "What good is it, then?".

 

DF

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Deep, it is the lure of the atheistic carnal side. Any person priest, cobbler or otherwise who abuses children is not a believer but a converted atheistic. Only a non believer would do such a thing.

Bottom line is you have atheistic moles posing as priests. Its logic deep.

You rules of ignorance are showing.

 

To answer your question, there is no good in atheism posing as being religious.

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