Originally Posted by hammaknocka:
please , look up the meaning of the word GREEDOriginally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by mad American:
Never tried gin and tonic. I do like beer, just not in my boat unless there is a sober scantily clad lady to drive for me. I cannot support a president who believes " we need to spread the wealth".
Ride safe and keep the shiny side up. It hurts to dismount over the windshield at highway speeds.
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I agree, and that is why I did not vote for the person who's stated policy would be to take from those of us who are middle class , and give that money to the top 2% of the wealthy in this country.
His VP candidate is still trying to do just that.
Now, I'm sure during the past few months you heard a lot obout income distribution in this country, but do you really , truly , understand just what this is about ?
Take a look at this video and get an idea , because , well, it probably aint what you think it is :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8I1dheHQ9s
Now, I will tell you right up front, that I do not think it is right, for Ryan, and the Republicans to try to pass a budget (which house republicans passed, Senate would not take it up) , which reduces the savings I put money into all my life since I was 14, just so they can give it to the richest 1 or 2% of the people in this country, and that is exactly what they are fighting to do.
That, my friend, is wealth redistrubiton that is really going on, and that is why I support a President and a party that does not want that to happen.
That video assumes that the "wealth pie" is static and there are only so many slices to go around which is simply not the case. It also offers no solution besides parroting the lie of the left which is, "you are poor because someone else is rich".
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I tend to think that "you are poor because someone else is greedy"
This country has been here before, in the 20s . It was called the "Gilded Age", and the distribution of wealth in the country was just about where it is right now. Things have a way of sorting themselves out, back then it was the Great Depression, we may still have one to come dependingn which bunch controls our government inthe near future.
How does someone being greedy make someone else poor?
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From yesterday:
How does someone being greedy make someone else poor?
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How does being rich make someone else poor ?
Neither are accurate, but both do contain some truth.
So now you say "neither are accurate" after you just said that someone being greedy equals someone being poor?
should govt regulate greed? If they regulate greed should they also take on the other deadly sins as well?
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I actually edited that statement, but for some reason it didn't make it into the post.
Let's take and example of how greed of the super wealthy can make someone poor: I'll give two examples:
A greedy rich person can buy a politician - many are for sale.
Then they can get that bought and paid for politician to skew a budget such as the one Paul Ryan has put forth and the House passed - Senate would have nothing to do with it tho.
A thing in Ryan's budget is to end Medicare (a most helpful insurance plan especially for the old and less well off) , an insurance plan that they paid for most of their working lives, and still pay for , and just give a voucher for $650 to a person on Medicare and just let them find whatever insurance plan they could find, and pay the difference themselves. Now, Ryan's plan is to do that , NOT in order to reduce the defecit, or even to pay down the debt, but to give more tax breaks to the super rich that that video clip talked about. According to Money.com today, that would ammount to a $200,000 savings for those people. That my friend, is shifting the cost of government from the richest to the old, retired, and poor in this country . This is wealth redistribution from poor to rich, and it is a result of greed.
A second example.
Two brothers, last year made $4B each in their oil business. Yes, the Koch Brothers, the sons of the man who started the John Birch Society. They are purchasing their politicians with orders to eleminate the EPA so they can pollute more and save money from having to produce their product in a safe manner.
Now, I hope you would agree that if pollution from dirty energy sources is killing people, that it is a tragedy, even tho it is not your own child, or may be even a Black child, but that making people sick is wrong when something could be done to prevent it, but isn't so that people who are making $4B a year can make some more.
That's greed, and I also hope, you can agree that making people sick is making people poorer , rich and poor are not ALWAYS decided by money.