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Intelligence is predicting an impending Iranian attack on the assets of the US.  America is moving a Carrier group to the area of Iran and bombers are on the move and saber rattling is high again but is there a reason for it?  I remember America going after Saddam Hussain because intelligence said he had weapons of mass destruction to use against us and the world only we never found them.  Some claim that Saddam even perpetuated the impression that he had the weapons thus justifying the actions against him and Iraq.  Now Intelligence folks say Iran is posturing for immediate attack on the US or our assets and I'm just wondering is this the same people that sounded the alarms on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?  

I'm not a fan of Iran and I have no problem with the President and the military taking moves to always protect the nation but I also know a lot of governmental employees make horrendous mistakes and never ever pay a penalty for their gross mistakes and incompetence.  I just don't want to risk a huge conflict based on information that may not be correct or verifiable.  I at least hope this isn't from the same group that found the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

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gbrk posted:

Intelligence is predicting an impending Iranian attack on the assets of the US.  America is moving a Carrier group to the area of Iran and bombers are on the move and saber rattling is high again but is there a reason for it?  I remember America going after Saddam Hussain because intelligence said he had weapons of mass destruction to use against us and the world only we never found them.  Some claim that Saddam even perpetuated the impression that he had the weapons thus justifying the actions against him and Iraq.  Now Intelligence folks say Iran is posturing for immediate attack on the US or our assets and I'm just wondering is this the same people that sounded the alarms on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?  

I'm not a fan of Iran and I have no problem with the President and the military taking moves to always protect the nation but I also know a lot of governmental employees make horrendous mistakes and never ever pay a penalty for their gross mistakes and incompetence.  I just don't want to risk a huge conflict based on information that may not be correct or verifiable.  I at least hope this isn't from the same group that found the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Nope. Bush and Chaney are not in office anymore.

L. Cranston posted:
gbrk posted:

Intelligence is predicting an impending Iranian attack on the assets of the US.  America is moving a Carrier group to the area of Iran and bombers are on the move and saber rattling is high again but is there a reason for it?  I remember America going after Saddam Hussain because intelligence said he had weapons of mass destruction to use against us and the world only we never found them.  Some claim that Saddam even perpetuated the impression that he had the weapons thus justifying the actions against him and Iraq.  Now Intelligence folks say Iran is posturing for immediate attack on the US or our assets and I'm just wondering is this the same people that sounded the alarms on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?  

I'm not a fan of Iran and I have no problem with the President and the military taking moves to always protect the nation but I also know a lot of governmental employees make horrendous mistakes and never ever pay a penalty for their gross mistakes and incompetence.  I just don't want to risk a huge conflict based on information that may not be correct or verifiable.  I at least hope this isn't from the same group that found the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Nope. Bush and Chaney are not in office anymore.

Really?  You have to be kidding, or I wish you were.  No offense meant but every post you make seems to be overshadowed solely by your obvious bias against anything that has the word Republican attached.  You can't see forest for the trees.  The people I am taking about aren't political people but government employees of the Government that don't change with political parties and are not political appointees.  

These are "intelligence" people who provide information to whomever (Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent) that are in office at the time.  Your obvious bias against Republicans is seemingly blinding you to being relevant in any answer.  Bush and Cheney has nothing to do with the misreporting of weapons of mass destruction that Bush claimed was reason for going into Iraq.  They were acting on bad intel and my point in the topic was are our politicians acting on bad intel from the same people now.  If our politicians cannot act beyond politics and for the good of the country and not for the good of "the party" then we are surely doomed.   

gbrk posted:
L. Cranston posted:
gbrk posted:

Intelligence is predicting an impending Iranian attack on the assets of the US.  America is moving a Carrier group to the area of Iran and bombers are on the move and saber rattling is high again but is there a reason for it?  I remember America going after Saddam Hussain because intelligence said he had weapons of mass destruction to use against us and the world only we never found them.  Some claim that Saddam even perpetuated the impression that he had the weapons thus justifying the actions against him and Iraq.  Now Intelligence folks say Iran is posturing for immediate attack on the US or our assets and I'm just wondering is this the same people that sounded the alarms on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?  

I'm not a fan of Iran and I have no problem with the President and the military taking moves to always protect the nation but I also know a lot of governmental employees make horrendous mistakes and never ever pay a penalty for their gross mistakes and incompetence.  I just don't want to risk a huge conflict based on information that may not be correct or verifiable.  I at least hope this isn't from the same group that found the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Nope. Bush and Chaney are not in office anymore.

Really?  You have to be kidding, or I wish you were.  No offense meant but every post you make seems to be overshadowed solely by your obvious bias against anything that has the word Republican attached.  You can't see forest for the trees.  The people I am taking about aren't political people but government employees of the Government that don't change with political parties and are not political appointees.  

These are "intelligence" people who provide information to whomever (Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent) that are in office at the time.  Your obvious bias against Republicans is seemingly blinding you to being relevant in any answer.  Bush and Cheney has nothing to do with the misreporting of weapons of mass destruction that Bush claimed was reason for going into Iraq.  They were acting on bad intel and my point in the topic was are our politicians acting on bad intel from the same people now.  If our politicians cannot act beyond politics and for the good of the country and not for the good of "the party" then we are surely doomed.   

How about you chastise the Republicans, on these forums, who are blatantly bias against anything Democrat? The minute you can show me where you have done this, I'll be glad to stop calling you the biggest hypocrite on the forums.

Donald J. Trump... “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none.”

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First of all I don't care if you think I am, or call me, the biggest hypocrite on the forum as you are but one of many and I fully believe of those who read what I've written they will make the correct judgment and if that is their verdict then I'll re-examine my postings.  As for others, on the forum, that are biased against anything Democrat I agree there are those (IN EVERY PARTY, and forum) that conform to that description and whether they are Republican or Democrat or Independent I'll suggest that it blinds them (whoever they are) to some good people, some good acts by bad people and places limits on their overall objectivity.   

Often times we hear only what we want to hear.  Case in point Donald Trumps statement about the removal of monuments from North Carolina.  Some people only heard what they wanted to hear and even Joe Biden is campaigning on this issue.  The President did not say there were 'good people" on the White Nationalist group but on "Both sides of the (monument removal) issue.  Trump is correct and there are good people on both sides of the monument issue.  Those who create riots and cause trouble, on all sides, are not helping things.  

gbrk posted:
L. Cranston posted:
gbrk posted:

Intelligence is predicting an impending Iranian attack on the assets of the US.  America is moving a Carrier group to the area of Iran and bombers are on the move and saber rattling is high again but is there a reason for it?  I remember America going after Saddam Hussain because intelligence said he had weapons of mass destruction to use against us and the world only we never found them.  Some claim that Saddam even perpetuated the impression that he had the weapons thus justifying the actions against him and Iraq.  Now Intelligence folks say Iran is posturing for immediate attack on the US or our assets and I'm just wondering is this the same people that sounded the alarms on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?  

I'm not a fan of Iran and I have no problem with the President and the military taking moves to always protect the nation but I also know a lot of governmental employees make horrendous mistakes and never ever pay a penalty for their gross mistakes and incompetence.  I just don't want to risk a huge conflict based on information that may not be correct or verifiable.  I at least hope this isn't from the same group that found the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Nope. Bush and Chaney are not in office anymore.

Really?  You have to be kidding, or I wish you were.  No offense meant but every post you make seems to be overshadowed solely by your obvious bias against anything that has the word Republican attached.  You can't see forest for the trees.  The people I am taking about aren't political people but government employees of the Government that don't change with political parties and are not political appointees.  

These are "intelligence" people who provide information to whomever (Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent) that are in office at the time.  Your obvious bias against Republicans is seemingly blinding you to being relevant in any answer.  Bush and Cheney has nothing to do with the misreporting of weapons of mass destruction that Bush claimed was reason for going into Iraq.  They were acting on bad intel and my point in the topic was are our politicians acting on bad intel from the same people now.  If our politicians cannot act beyond politics and for the good of the country and not for the good of "the party" then we are surely doomed.   

MI6 backed up the intel concerning Saddam seeking new uranium sources. MI6 also employed Dr. Mifsud, who helped set up Papadopoulos.  Apparently, M isn't to be trusted, anymore.   

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