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So Tool, did you think the same as stated in the article?
wright you really look like an obsessed fool following my every post. don't they call that stalking? 
If these tapes exist, and they are clear that Cam was in on the pay4play, then why in the world did 1)Bond not play them for the NCAA? or 2)the NCAA reinstate Cam without condition after hearing said tapes?
It makes for great sensationalized TMZ/Enquirer style reporting here, but Tool, you are still left with the same image of Auburn completing the greatest comeback victory in Iron Bowl history, in Bryant-Denny-Tuberville-Chizik Stadium, then a dominant SEC Championship game victory, then holding Oregon to 30 points under their average in the BCS National Championship game victory.
That taste will never get out of your mouth... you can rinse all the TMZ story listerine through there you can... but you saw it, I saw it, we all saw it. Get over it. The new season will be here soon.
But thanks for yet another post about Auburn there Harvey!! lol
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It makes for great sensationalized TMZ/Enquirer style reporting here, but Tool, you are still left with the same image of Auburn completing the greatest comeback victory in Iron Bowl history, in Bryant-Denny-Tuberville-Chizik Stadium, then a dominant SEC Championship game victory, then holding Oregon to 30 points under their average in the BCS National Championship game victory.
That taste will never get out of your mouth... you can rinse all the TMZ story listerine through there you can... but you saw it, I saw it, we all saw it. Get over it. The new season will be here soon.
But thanks for yet another post about Auburn there Harvey!! lol
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Where there is smoke, there is fire. I am not an Auburn fan by any means, but the Cam story is far from over. There has been plenty of national media, with no ties to Alabama, Bryant-Denny, or the Iron Bowl loss that have picked up on this story.
I can't explain the NCAA's non-action on this story, perhaps enough hasn't come out? There are also conspiracy theorists who say that the NCAA just didn't want TCU in the Title game.
Whatever the reason, to simply shrug everything off as Alabama jealousy, because you are an Auburn fan is short sighted at best.
For Auburns sake, maybe there is nothing to the Cam Newton story, but I feel down the road we will find out there is a lot to it.
I can't explain the NCAA's non-action on this story, perhaps enough hasn't come out? There are also conspiracy theorists who say that the NCAA just didn't want TCU in the Title game.
Whatever the reason, to simply shrug everything off as Alabama jealousy, because you are an Auburn fan is short sighted at best.
For Auburns sake, maybe there is nothing to the Cam Newton story, but I feel down the road we will find out there is a lot to it.
The NCAA is slow!!! Look at the Reggie Bush case. The investigation ended last year. Bush had been in the NFL three years. I agree, we have not heard the end of this. This will come up again in two or three years with penalties and forfeits and no national championship and return the trophy and all that garbage!! By then nobody will care.
quote:Originally posted by Tool:
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/...ippi-state-john-bond
So now you are pinning your hopes on a felon, who was charged for wife beating and failure to pay child support. A year ago Scott Moore called the Finebaum show from Jail, whining to Finebaum and the Bama fans to talk to the Judge on his behalf. Scott Moore has nothing the NCAA has not already seen. If he does that means John Bond and MSU was hiding evidence from the NCAA and MSU would get hammered by the NCAA if that was true. This is the Same Scott Moore who did a taped voice impersination of Tommy Tuberville in the recruitment of Jerrell Harris stating news outlets he had tape of Tommy Tuberville offering Harris money, the tapes was quickly found to be not authentic, but was Scott Moore with one of his impersonations.
You updykes just can't get over the 28-27 Saban choke job at Bryant-Denny/Tuberville stadium.
quote:Originally posted by Tool:
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/...ippi-state-john-bond
Looks like you updykes struck out again.
http://www.therealistnation.blogspot.com/
and this.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1051973.html
The Realist article states nothing. First off, it's an Auburn blog, so do we really think it's not bias?
Secondly, it never states that Scott Moore's accusations are wrong or right. In fact, from that very article, "Whether or not Moore's accusations about the entire Cam Newton saga are true or ever proven remain to be seen." & "Only time, as always, will tell if any accusations made against Auburn University are accurate."
Again, this is not about a loss in the Iron Bowl. Sure, losing the Iron Bowl sucks, but national media has also followed the Cam Newton saga, along with the ESPN article written by three journalists (can't remember which, seems like Forde was one of them.)
This whole Cam thing is far from over, and it's not because Auburn won the Iron Bowl. If you can't separate the two then that's on you.
Secondly, it never states that Scott Moore's accusations are wrong or right. In fact, from that very article, "Whether or not Moore's accusations about the entire Cam Newton saga are true or ever proven remain to be seen." & "Only time, as always, will tell if any accusations made against Auburn University are accurate."
Again, this is not about a loss in the Iron Bowl. Sure, losing the Iron Bowl sucks, but national media has also followed the Cam Newton saga, along with the ESPN article written by three journalists (can't remember which, seems like Forde was one of them.)
This whole Cam thing is far from over, and it's not because Auburn won the Iron Bowl. If you can't separate the two then that's on you.
quote:Originally posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:
Where there is smoke, there is fire. I am not an Auburn fan by any means, but the Cam story is far from over. There has been plenty of national media, with no ties to Alabama, Bryant-Denny, or the Iron Bowl loss that have picked up on this story.
I can't explain the NCAA's non-action on this story, perhaps enough hasn't come out? There are also conspiracy theorists who say that the NCAA just didn't want TCU in the Title game.
Whatever the reason, to simply shrug everything off as Alabama jealousy, because you are an Auburn fan is short sighted at best.
For Auburns sake, maybe there is nothing to the Cam Newton story, but I feel down the road we will find out there is a lot to it.
read up on this Moore character and I think you may change your mind that this isn't "Alabama jealousy". This guy hates Auburn and has already stated an absolute LIE that the NCAA told Auburn to sit Cam. That is absolutely NOT factual. But as for "Tool"... it is ALL about jealousy with him...that's what I was talking about there.
but I'll ask you the same thing... IF these tapes with Cam being in on the P4P is authentic...then 1)Why is Bond giving them to this joker and NOT to the NCAA months ago? or 2)If the NCAA heard the tapes and unconditionally reinstated Cam, how can they now come back and change that ruling based on the same evidence?
That's the point I'm making. If Bond concealed these tapes, then MSU is looking at some hard times. If he gave them to the NCAA, then they've already ruled based on that "evidence". My point is, I don't see any smoke! What you are seeing is DUST from a rehashed story.
@blue angel... This is in no way similar to the Bush case. There was a LONG line of evidence they had to follow before they could make their ruling. That tied back to an agent and officials at USC, along with Bush's parents receiving benefits. Even if these tapes are authentic and prove that Cam knew what his dad was doing, worse case is Auburn vacates wins. There would be no probation or scholly restrictions because there has been NOTHING tying Auburn to any improper recruitment of Cam Newton. Also different from the Bush case is the fact that Auburn has still never received an official letter of inquiry from the NCAA.
The investigation is ongoing peter reilly ...thats the facts.
scott moore is no longer with 97.7 and he's been totally scrubbed from their website.
i also have proof that he was crying like a little girl when they kicked his butt out of the door. he said something along the lines of, "i know the tapes are real! i made them myself! you'll be sorry!" of course its all on tapes that i have locked in a man sized safe, that i'll play at a later date..so you have to take my word for it...but its coming. i promise. really.
i also have proof that he was crying like a little girl when they kicked his butt out of the door. he said something along the lines of, "i know the tapes are real! i made them myself! you'll be sorry!" of course its all on tapes that i have locked in a man sized safe, that i'll play at a later date..so you have to take my word for it...but its coming. i promise. really.
and it goes on and on...
quote:Originally posted by Peter Rielly:quote:Originally posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:
Where there is smoke, there is fire. I am not an Auburn fan by any means, but the Cam story is far from over. There has been plenty of national media, with no ties to Alabama, Bryant-Denny, or the Iron Bowl loss that have picked up on this story.
I can't explain the NCAA's non-action on this story, perhaps enough hasn't come out? There are also conspiracy theorists who say that the NCAA just didn't want TCU in the Title game.
Whatever the reason, to simply shrug everything off as Alabama jealousy, because you are an Auburn fan is short sighted at best.
For Auburns sake, maybe there is nothing to the Cam Newton story, but I feel down the road we will find out there is a lot to it.
read up on this Moore character and I think you may change your mind that this isn't "Alabama jealousy". This guy hates Auburn and has already stated an absolute LIE that the NCAA told Auburn to sit Cam. That is absolutely NOT factual. But as for "Tool"... it is ALL about jealousy with him...that's what I was talking about there.
but I'll ask you the same thing... IF these tapes with Cam being in on the P4P is authentic...then 1)Why is Bond giving them to this joker and NOT to the NCAA months ago? or 2)If the NCAA heard the tapes and unconditionally reinstated Cam, how can they now come back and change that ruling based on the same evidence?
That's the point I'm making. If Bond concealed these tapes, then MSU is looking at some hard times. If he gave them to the NCAA, then they've already ruled based on that "evidence". My point is, I don't see any smoke! What you are seeing is DUST from a rehashed story.
@blue angel... This is in no way similar to the Bush case. There was a LONG line of evidence they had to follow before they could make their ruling. That tied back to an agent and officials at USC, along with Bush's parents receiving benefits. Even if these tapes are authentic and prove that Cam knew what his dad was doing, worse case is Auburn vacates wins. There would be no probation or scholly restrictions because there has been NOTHING tying Auburn to any improper recruitment of Cam Newton. Also different from the Bush case is the fact that Auburn has still never received an official letter of inquiry from the NCAA.
Peter Rielly: You are correct! This is in no way similar to the bush case. It changed yesterday.
How did it change?? 4 disgruntled former Auburn players gave interviews filled with unsubstanciated charges of being paid by boosters connected with Auburn(and one connected with LSU during Saban's time there.)
However, HBO ignored the other 116 guys that either said "no comment" or "we never got paid" or "we know those guys, and they are lying". That was hatchet job journalism at it's finest. Taking a small sample of one side of the story while IGNORING the large sample of the other side of it. If you bought any of that, them I'm sure you furnish your house from the county dump. That was a garbage story all the way with ZERO facts, and no rebuttle from the opposing side. It was pretty pathetic.
However, HBO ignored the other 116 guys that either said "no comment" or "we never got paid" or "we know those guys, and they are lying". That was hatchet job journalism at it's finest. Taking a small sample of one side of the story while IGNORING the large sample of the other side of it. If you bought any of that, them I'm sure you furnish your house from the county dump. That was a garbage story all the way with ZERO facts, and no rebuttle from the opposing side. It was pretty pathetic.
Peter This whole thing is pathetic. It erodes the line between amateur and professional athletics. I'm not an Auburn fan and I'm really not a Cam Newton fan. I would not be a fan of any one and done superstar!! That's why this is pathetic! His attitude and character diminish the amateur athletic spirit and create problems wherever he goes. He will be good for the aspiring one and done super athletes out there; however, he is not good for college athletics and the great Auburn University. That's why this is pathetic!
quote:Originally posted by blue angel:
Peter This whole thing is pathetic. It erodes the line between amateur and professional athletics. I'm not an Auburn fan and I'm really not a Cam Newton fan. I would not be a fan of any one and done superstar!! That's why this is pathetic! His attitude and character diminish the amateur athletic spirit and create problems wherever he goes. He will be good for the aspiring one and done super athletes out there; however, he is not good for college athletics and the great Auburn University. That's why this is pathetic!
Since you are not an Auburn fan then your team probably GOT BEAT BY THE CAM NEWTON LED AUBURN TIGERS IN 2010.... So forgive me if I am cynical about your objectivity describing Cam Newton.
During his time in Auburn, he developed into THE leader of a 14-0 SEC/BCS championship team. He was always well spoken, never go into any hint of trouble, and became a hero to middle school kids in the area, that he visited weekly, and donated his appearance fee from the Letterman Show to. Now, if his "attitude and character" was bad, how do you think all of that came to be? You, as most bitter opposing fans, love to bash Cam's character. Based on what? the laptop? When he was 18? OOOOKKKKAAAAYYYY... LMAO!!! No, it's not about those things, it's about Auburn being the reigning CHAMPS! That's what it's about. It's about Cam being the reigning Heisman Trophy winner...that's what it's about. Drop the veil of "Cam is bad for amatuer sports" garbage. Cam was 1 and done because he was the best player...BY FAR...in college football during a national championship run. He had one of the best college football seasons ANY OF US have ever seen. Sure, I would have loved to have him come back, but why? What else could he accomplish at this level? Are you mad about Ingram, Jones, or Dareus leaving? It's silly. Cam is about to be a top ten NFL pick(possibly #1), and sign a contract with probably around 25-50 million guaranteed. I don't blame him a bit. The AUbsession with Cam Newton is hilarious...absolutely HILARIOUS!! lol
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That was good Peter: This is how I see it: He was a 1 and done because he was kicked out of the university of Florida for theft. 18 year old kids serve a little time as adults for the same type things. He did not have the grades so he went to a junior college. I have no problem with that! Many kids go to junior college. I'm a Mississippi State fan, the first school where he was pimped. This is where the bad for amateur athletics starts to rear its ugly head....
The NCAA is not going to forget about the pimp job. They will be watching my school and Auburn like a hawk. You guys over in Alabama can fight it out all you want, I just don't want my bulldogs in your fight! He is probably one of the best athletes I've seen since Bo Jackson!!! I just think before this is said and done, Auburn will be polishing his lip prints off the National Championship and Heisman before they are returned. I just hope all the aspiring kids wanting to play College ball don't get hurt because of scholarship cuts. If this happens, he will be the worst 1 and done in college football history!!
The NCAA is not going to forget about the pimp job. They will be watching my school and Auburn like a hawk. You guys over in Alabama can fight it out all you want, I just don't want my bulldogs in your fight! He is probably one of the best athletes I've seen since Bo Jackson!!! I just think before this is said and done, Auburn will be polishing his lip prints off the National Championship and Heisman before they are returned. I just hope all the aspiring kids wanting to play College ball don't get hurt because of scholarship cuts. If this happens, he will be the worst 1 and done in college football history!!
Hey Pete long time no see. It sure can be lonely at the top after winning all the marbles, everybody wants to take a bite out of you when your on top. Glad spring trainings finally arrived which only means kickoff is fast approching. Cant wait getting tired of all the off season back stabbing, but hey!! its football in Alabama what would you expect.
quote:Originally posted by bamacarl:
Hey Pete long time no see. It sure can be lonely at the top after winning all the marbles, everybody wants to take a bite out of you when your on top. Glad spring trainings finally arrived which only means kickoff is fast approching. Cant wait getting tired of all the off season back stabbing, but hey!! its football in Alabama what would you expect.
What's up bamacarl!? Good to see you posting, and yeah, the off season is waaaayyy too long. lol. Auburn played in the last game of the season, and we still couldn't make it to spring without 5 knuckleheads getting kicked off the team. And yeah, the target is def there, but it has been since the Cam story first creeped out.
Good luck to you dealing with all the backlash my Auburn brethren are sure to send ya'll's way with the Calloway story that is circulating right now. You know I'll take it easy on you! lol
Outside that, what are you thinking about Bama's '11 squad so far? If Bama can get a starting QB that don't throw to the wrong team, and a receiver that can draw some of the attention Julio did, ya'll got a great chance at getting back to Atlanta.
quote:Originally posted by blue angel:
That was good Peter: This is how I see it: He was a 1 and done because he was kicked out of the university of Florida for theft. 18 year old kids serve a little time as adults for the same type things. He did not have the grades so he went to a junior college. I have no problem with that! Many kids go to junior college. I'm a Mississippi State fan, the first school where he was pimped. This is where the bad for amateur athletics starts to rear its ugly head....
The NCAA is not going to forget about the pimp job. They will be watching my school and Auburn like a hawk. You guys over in Alabama can fight it out all you want, I just don't want my bulldogs in your fight! He is probably one of the best athletes I've seen since Bo Jackson!!! I just think before this is said and done, Auburn will be polishing his lip prints off the National Championship and Heisman before they are returned. I just hope all the aspiring kids wanting to play College ball don't get hurt because of scholarship cuts. If this happens, he will be the worst 1 and done in college football history!!
Not gonna happen. Miss State has more to worry about than Auburn does. I don't understand what "The NCAA found no evidence that Auburn was part of any wrongdoing in the recruitment of Cam Newton" ya'll can't get a grasp on. lol
IMO, it's over, a done deal, story dead. I don't think ya'll will get hit simply because the perceptions of unfairness because he led Auburn to the BCS national championship. The media made sure to put the black eye on Auburn because Auburn is a more prominant national program year in and year out. But facts puts the black eye on Miss. State.
quote:Good luck to you dealing with all the backlash my Auburn brethren are sure to send ya'll's way with the Calloway story that is circulating right now. You know I'll take it easy on you! lol
Hell!! I was starting to feel left out with all the accusations being made at Auburn and not a single one at the tide so far. Now with the Calloway story we can sure enough get down to some real mud slinging. Should be a lot of fun to sit back and watch.
quote:Outside that, what are you thinking about Bama's '11 squad so far? If Bama can get a starting QB that don't throw to the wrong team, and a receiver that can draw some of the attention Julio did, ya'll got a great chance at getting back to Atlanta.
I think defensively we could have one of the deepest and most talanted teams in years. If we can bring the same mentality that we brought in the Capital One Bowl very few teams will be able to move the ball on us with any consistency. Offense could be another question. The offensive should be improved and the backfield will be solid. The quaterback position is a toss up right now and while either McCarron or Sims is a talent upgrade compared to Mcelroy, they will not have that game experience GMAC had. The receivers are good but with Julio gone how effective they will be is a concern. Alot of young talent plus the addiction of Duron Carter will make it interesting. Overall if the defense plays to its ability and if the offense comes along we should be a West contender.