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I'm curious do you believe any of the "Arab Spring" was a spontaneous uprising by the citizens of the particular country in revolt ie Egypt, Tunisia? Could Sen. Rubio's comments be interpreted as a warning to Assad that his people will put him out?

 

Its no secret that the US has played a role in ousting foreign leaders but 7 countries in 5 years seems pretty ambitious to me.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

yes, just like the FEMA prison that was actually a north Korean prison.  The railcars that haul autos was supported to be used to haul slave prisoners around the US to non-existent FEMA camps.  Infowars -- at war with ligitimate information.

So Interventor/mushroom,

 Was that an actor playing the part of Wesley Clark in the video?

 

 Ans while we are at it, How come we are fighting Al Qaeda in Afganistan and irag, and helping them take over in Libya?

Wesley Clark was speaking to a liberal audience.  He plays to the house.

 

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 So then, by your admission, the information is only reported by infowars, they didn't make it up.

 Not much difference between infowars and FOX then is there? FOX posts it's share faux paus as well. Alex at least tries to bring you the information other won't. Give the man a little credit for at least being more journalistic than the mainstream.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

Wesley Clark was speaking to a liberal audience.  He plays to the house.

 

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 So then, by your admission, the information is only reported by infowars, they didn't make it up.

 Not much difference between infowars and FOX then is there? FOX posts it's share faux paus as well. Alex at least tries to bring you the information other won't. Give the man a little credit for at least being more journalistic than the mainstream.

As to infowars, nonsense, the Clark video was playing on youtube for quite a while. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...ed&v=MMAONc7GeIc by Ron Paul's people, who downloaded it from fora.tv.  infowars got it third hand.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

As to my statement that the regressives place their faith in an elite who always know more than the governed -- that is a statement and complaint long made by paleo-conservatives (me), neo-cons, and libertarians.  Infowars and you are late to the game by half a century, or so.

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Now, now, interventor. Everytime I make that claim you call me a conspiracy nut. Well, welcome to the nuthouse.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Extra,

 

Learn to discern between conspiracies and those claiming to be in the forefront sounding the clarion call, when all they are doing is hashing out old news to their true believers!   You're being served 50 year old C-rations presented as caviar. 

Interventor,

 If TWO  people get together and plan to do something, that is a conspiracy. When a group of people believe they are somehow more privileged and smarter than us, and plan to act on our behalf without our consent, that my friend is a conspiracy. And what confirms this as a conspiracy, is that they go to great lengths to hide much of their activity.

Extra,

 

Two may keep a secret, when one of them is dead!  These conspiracies are too involved to ring true.  There is too much chance for defections and blabbermouths.  Think of the hundreds of persons who would have to be involved in most of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, yet none have come forward, or were seen planting hundreds of pounds of whatever in the towers.

 

Most amusing is that the owner took the $5 billion as part of a major pay off.. Sure, he got most of his investment back, but lost over 12 years of lease revenue. That's a worse business record than most of Obama's half baked stimulus plans. 

 

Governments, by their nature, tend to accret power.  Slowing, diverting and simply cutting their funding is the best cure.

Two may keep a secret, when one of them is dead!  These conspiracies are too involved to ring true.  There is too much chance for defections and blabbermouths.

 

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 Not necessarily true. You are making an ASSUMPTION and not making apoint based on any fact.

 People who are introduced to the conspiracy by first being indoctrinated into the ideology  of the conspiracy is the best way to keep it's secrets. I.E. Bilderburg, which is the closest to the final product where people are introduced into the conspiracy, and Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove which are entry level to the ideological indoctrination.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

All three of the aforementioned have been chronicled and written about by member and insiders.  Skull and Crossbones and the Bohemian Grove are mainly for former frat boys who never grew up.  And, perhaps, are unsure of their masculinity (Bohemian Grove, especially).

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 Your point would be valid except in the world of government and business, Bonesmen have a tendency to hire and promote bonesmen. That at the very heart is a conspiracy.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

No, that's a fraternity thing.  Sorry, but former frat brothers do this all the time.  You'll find the same among some other fraternal organizations, as well, such as the Masons, Elks, Shriners, etc. 

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 But that is by definition a conspiracy.

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