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Originally posted by smurph:
oops not you Kindred
that was for bman and ed

its a public forum, everybody has the SAME rights to post their thoughts and opnions on subjects. NO ONE on here is the judge and jury. No one is going to be detained for untold periods of time ,fed bread and water for being mistaken on ANY given subject.


VERY well said, smurph... EVERYONE has the right to voice what they believe in, or what their opinions are!!!
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Originally posted by smurph:
well Kindred you MUST take notice to WHO the first one was to break the privacy of posting PMS in public,,says alot don't ya think


It ABSOLUTELY Does, smurph... Personally speaking, and YOU know it, I do NOT share PM's with anyone. I have been invited into several of them with more than one participant... and I chose the wrong side on that one... smurph, you know what I am talking about here... and I have since lived to REGRET that decision...

Nothing worse in this world than someone who not only THINKS they know everything about everything, but then flaunts their ignorance, right? I know that even "I" am guilty of that, but thank God, not as much as SOME here are...
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Originally posted by smurph:
and some others were accused of trying to "rule" the board? me thinks i see a self glorified candidate attempting the same position


Yes, my friend, it is not only a 'methinks', it is a CERTAINTY... but we shall talk more about that in PM's or on the other site... right now, I gotta go... Family in hospital... be back later!!! Smiler
The AJC (Atlanta Journal) is lucky to have one fan out there (even if out of state). I've been here (Atlanta) for 21 years after spending the first 23 in the Shoals area and most people I know think very little of the AJC...the coupons aren't even good anymore-LOL.

Brentenman, THANK YOU for serving the USA so that we are all still free to express our opinions...whether some like them or not. Now we have to do something about that avatar...ROLL TIDE Wink
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Originally posted by Phoenix Rising:
So you are right and everyone else is wrong, stupid and stuck in their ways. To save your well being you have opted to no longer grace us with your presence. You sir are my new hero.


"STUCK ON STUPID" could describe SEVERAL people on this forum, LOL!!!

Heck fire, doesn't it describe every imperfect human being at one time or another in their life anyway??? Or does that just apply to those who don't agree with YOU???

Especially in light of the fact that Jesus Christ was the ONLY perfect man who ever walked the face of this earth.
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Originally posted by mkirk:
The AJC (Atlanta Journal) is lucky to have one fan out there (even if out of state). I've been here (Atlanta) for 21 years after spending the first 23 in the Shoals area and most people I know think very little of the AJC...the coupons aren't even good anymore-LOL.

Brentenman, THANK YOU for serving the USA so that we are all still free to express our opinions...whether some like them or not. Now we have to do something about that avatar...ROLL TIDE Wink


Ya know, Mkirk... I have thanked B'man so many times for the Service he does for our country, and when he decided to leave the forum I begged him not to... and my repayment for all that????

A slap in the face by him SEVERAL times, even called evil because we differ in views politically... Now, I ask you, what RIGHT does a UNIFORM give to ANY MAN OR WOMAN to treat people with such disrespect and be so mean to them????

Never are any of us going to find anyone who agrees with everything we believe, but being curtious, respectful does NOT cost a dime.

I hope and Pray that your thanking him for his deeds doesn't reap for you what it has done for several of us on the Forums.

It can all be proven if you have time to start way back at page one and start reading, and make sure you read it ALL, and ALL the snide, insulting and just plain mean comments he has made to people... even threw his JAG in there trying to impress us all.

I just wish his JAG could read everything that man has written on a public forum to the Citizens of this Country,... I sincerely think he would NOT like it one single bit.

Wonder if that JAG has a name and address????
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by FatNoMo:
Isn't ED in Arizona? Tell me, again, how he found Florence TD.


I found TimesDaily because I am a news junkie with a lot of time on my hands, I have also found the Atlanta Journal Constitution, a good paper by the way, as is Times Daily. And Florida Senator Martinez sends out a fascinating newsletter each week, and there is the Seattle Tribune, and the Tucson Daily Star, and the Fresno Bee, and the various compendiums of news articles gleaned from all over the world.

I get the online version of Der Speigle English, Le Mond Diplomatique, the BBC, and the Times of London.

There is also CNN, MSNBC, and google and yahoo news.

I got interested in Alabama Politics because your state has one of the most progressive and liberal primary election systems in the country. You should be glad for it.

I had a long term correspondence with a former resident of Alabama and still correspond with a political activist in the state.


1. Most of us, or anyone for that matter, can do the same thing. It is called the Internet. Did you or Algore invent it?

2. AJC is a VERY left of center paper in the editorial department....I wonder why sales of that paper have been slipping and sliding downhill for the past few years? Can one say Cynthia Tucker??????

3. Long term correspndence = not a native of Alabama, doubtful you have even visited. Until you have visited, or lived there, you know nothing about how the REAL people of Alabama are. Same as when someone tells me: "I have been to Alaska before..I took a cruise up there last summer.." From my personal experience, you do not know Alaska until you have spent at least 1 FULL winter up there (I have 3 full winters...).


B Man, you serve at Leavenworth. It is the center of the Army's indoctination school. They did a good job on you. My HONORABLE discharge is dated 19 May, 1966. I gotta admit that I could not field strip an M 4 or Arm and fire a Patriot.

If you are going to use the internet, thank the people who made it possible. Have you bothered to read the Gore Quote that is used to say he claims to have "invented" the internet? He said, and it is true, that he was involved in the legislation that ENABLED the internet. That is a far cry from saying he invented it, and it is also one hundred percent true.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
I thought I would post this PM exchange that myself and EdEKit had 1 month ago....You be the judge:

Brentenman:

"I didn't ask you. When I want your opinion I will call the warden for permission to speak with you."

That is a pathetic, personal attack. On other forums I go to, when someone posts a question like you asked, most everyone chims in with their knowledge. Hence, what I was doing.

I will remember that next time you ask a question..and leave you flapping in the breeze.

Secondly, as a result of this thread, I have no desire to debate you. You seem to want your cake and eat it to.
END

EdEKit:
I absolutely do want my cake and to eat it too. Don't you?
I have found that you are the easiest of all people to silence. All I need do is give you some of your own medicine.
I am in this fight, and you are in this fight. Either stand your ground or surrender. I thought you had when you announced that you were never coming back.
I will not tollerate being bullied, and if you contine bullying me, or any one else, I will continue using your own GUN SLINGER tactics on you. Be warned, I am well armed for this particular style of street fight, and I am secure that short of finding alliances you are NO THREAT TO ME.
I am only a threat to your ideals, not your person.
It is up to you whether we have a battle on issues or personalities. But the battle is joined. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
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Brentenman:
No, I am not going to give you that satisfaction....

Have a nice life.....I have better things to do.
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EdEKit:
Brentenman,
It is up to me what I decide to reply to. It is up to you what you decide to reply to. DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO INTIMIDATE ME INTO IGNORING YOU. Feel free to ignore me.
END and END OF PM EXCHANGE


If you look at the thread on the .50 caliber rifles, EdEKit got MORE than he bargained for......He picked the WRONG topic to have a discussion he dislikes/has little knowledge about..and he paid for it. Hopefully, he learned his lesson, and learned a thing or two about firearms in general. Myself, and ALOT of others, whom are on various gun-message boards I linked this thread too, feel that he has not.....


I had to read this three times and I still do not get the point. So, you guys had a discussion that you gained the "king of the hill" award, and now you are posting the PM's for all to see? Confused

Kindred_Spirit, Thanks for the Other Post, I was, quite frankly, storming out of the room and slamming the door behind me. I cooled off, Checked out the bus, decided that I was still not interested in being the chef, since the kitchen is on the roof, not under it, took a nap, and sheepisly returned to the party hat in hand, to find that the tantrum had the exact effect I expected.
The series of PM's Brentenman so kindly posted is Only Proof of two things. One, Brentenman only posted my side of the conversation. Two, he saves the stuff he hopes will discredit his opponents. I CAN'T post the whole thread, I deleted it when I came to the conclusion that I was wasting my time with a homesick boy from Alabama.
I had allowed myself to get sucked into a Gun Control fight with a gunslinger. I have never met a craftsman who was not proud of his tools. I am no exception.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by smurph:
Please check out the link
http://forums.timesdaily.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5521043475/m/2711046506
READ THE ENTIRE (SHORT THREAD)PLEASE. Anyone can be wrong, even...............



THAT is PATHETIC!!! And even more pathetic than that is some of the pictures and comments he has made here that we DO remember that he deleted???? Remember that one tactic of his?


Tell me what is pathetic???? Me would like to know.
Mr, edekit, you are one couragous citizen, to allow all of these people write all of the things and call you almost every name in the book and it don't even phase you. Not one time have you said you wanted to take their guns. you only stated your oppinion that you don't need them. You are entiteled to post your thoughts. this is a prime example of people on the right going overboard to make others look bad. diplomacy and understanding the other side is the key to democracy, those fools are only interested in making enemys if you don't carry the same view they do. disscusion and debate is what I thought this forum is all about, not attacking each other.
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
Kindred Spirit, EdEKit:

You guys are a piece of work.

Keep drinking the kool aide given to you by the extreme whereever it is you come from.


Brentenman... you are the one who divulged a confidential PM... or are they not confidential to you? I would NEVER do that, not even to you.

Yes, I am a piece of work... and a good one at that. Just because we do not agree, doesn't give you the right to act like the little boy who lost all his marbles in the game.

We are ADULTS and we are never going to agree on everything, but we CAN take steps to try to get along without being mean.

And, according to a boatload of PM's I have gotten, there are several on here who thinks your insults are childish trantrums.

I shall not divulge who said it though, because I learned a LONG time ago to value the TRUST in people and NOT repeat what is told to me privately.

And drink the kool-aid comment almost sounds like a threat?????

Are you threatening us?

And you never did give your JAG's name and Address.... I KNOW for a fact that is NOT privilaged information... been a military brat and then wife 3/4ths of my life, so I know that the names of superior's CAN be given. A question you so 'eloquently' avoided with yet another insult.
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Mr, edekit, you are one couragous citizen, to allow all of these people write all of the things and call you almost every name in the book and it don't even phase you. Not one time have you said you wanted to take their guns. you only stated your oppinion that you don't need them. You are entiteled to post your thoughts. this is a prime example of people on the right going overboard to make others look bad. diplomacy and understanding the other side is the key to democracy, those fools are only interested in making enemys if you don't carry the same view they do. disscusion and debate is what I thought this forum is all about, not attacking each other.


VERY WELL SAID!!!! VERY WELL!!! I was SO proud to see someone with sense, stability and forsight enough to SEE what was going on here, and you did just that!!!

I THANK YOU!!!!
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by smurph:
Please check out the link
http://forums.timesdaily.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5521043475/m/2711046506
READ THE ENTIRE (SHORT THREAD)PLEASE. Anyone can be wrong, even...............



THAT is PATHETIC!!! And even more pathetic than that is some of the pictures and comments he has made here that we DO remember that he deleted???? Remember that one tactic of his?


Tell me what is pathetic???? Me would like to know.



The PICTURES, the comments, that YOU deleted!!! Because if anyone from TD deleted them, it says so... so that didn't happen... YOU had to be the one who did that....

There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.
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Originally posted by smurph:
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There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.


hehehehe yuppers


I been playing on the Internet for about 9 years now, I KNOW how to copy/paste and save information that COULD prove pertinant someday Wink
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.[/color][/b]


1. If you are referring to pictures of my: firearms, Buffalo Soldier pics, pics of illegal aliens, I have no idea what you are complaining about. Pictures linked and or common news stuff is linked here or posted here all the time.

2. I have never made any terroristic threats, nor implied any terroristic threats. I have, yes, stated what I would do if threatened either sexual or bodily harmed, and the vast majority would agree that they would protect themselves from harm. I even double-checked with my father-in-law, a practicing attorney and judge in Savannah, GA. I even showed stuff posted here to a fellow classmate of mine, a JAG officer. She laughed her head off and wondered where and what is the problem.

3. My business if I want to post something PM, especially when it brings the light the character of someone I consider a fraud, based upon his PM, and based upon his points made that were proven very false (EdEKit) by myself and several other individuals by individuals very intimately in the know.

Keep in mind people, this is a message board. If you get your panties in a wad over a message board, you are either a. a juvenille playing hooky from school b. retired with nothing to do (The Villages, Florida's Friendliest Hometown, has space available, they even promise "..the most active years of your life.." there) c. playing on the computer at work when you should instead be worried about the company bottom line/your assignments d. you do not have a life.
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.[/color][/b]


1. If you are referring to pictures of my: firearms, Buffalo Soldier pics, pics of illegal aliens, I have no idea what you are complaining about. Pictures linked and or common news stuff is linked here or posted here all the time.

2. I have never made any terroristic threats, nor implied any terroristic threats. I have, yes, stated what I would do if threatened either sexual or bodily harmed, and the vast majority would agree that they would protect themselves from harm. I even double-checked with my father-in-law, a practicing attorney and judge in Savannah, GA. I even showed stuff posted here to a fellow classmate of mine, a JAG officer. She laughed her head off and wondered where and what is the problem.

3. My business if I want to post something PM, especially when it brings the light the character of someone I consider a fraud, based upon his PM, and based upon his points made that were proven very false (EdEKit) by myself and several other individuals by individuals very intimately in the know.

Keep in mind people, this is a message board. If you get your panties in a wad over a message board, you are either a. a juvenille playing hooky from school b. retired with nothing to do (The Villages, Florida's Friendliest Hometown, has space available, they even promise "..the most active years of your life.." there) c. playing on the computer at work when you should instead be worried about the company bottom line/your assignments d. you do not have a life.


OF COURSE you evaded the REAL question... lol, as I knew you would!!!

And I sure bet you 'picked and chose' what you showed your JAG, or maybe we could send the forum site addy to all the CO's and JAG's at Leavenworth so they can see how ugly and mean you are to the world....

They died laughing? I don't think so, not if you showed them your ugly, insulting, crude, rude and crass comments, THAT in and of itself makes the Military look bad, and trust me... Being a Military brat and a Military wife for as many years that I was, I KNOW for a fact that they would have a FIT over your actions on this forum.

And WHOSE panties are in a wad? Certainly not mine... mine NEVER get in a wad over the likes of you and your crappiness... I just find the BEST way to handle things so my panties are doing just fine, Thank you!! Roll Eyes

I further think the MAJORITY of forum members who have seen your uncalled for ATTACKS on people KNOW who the juvenile is!!! LOL... I have a grandson with more character and maturity than you have, and he is only 12 years old!!!

If you think for one second by coming on here, making your "what you think" are logical answers to questions not asked, or not answer questions were asked bothers me in ANY way, then THAT is your FIRST mistake!!! lol.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.[/color][/b]


1. If you are referring to pictures of my: firearms, Buffalo Soldier pics, pics of illegal aliens, I have no idea what you are complaining about. Pictures linked and or common news stuff is linked here or posted here all the time.

2. I have never made any terroristic threats, nor implied any terroristic threats. I have, yes, stated what I would do if threatened either sexual or bodily harmed, and the vast majority would agree that they would protect themselves from harm. I even double-checked with my father-in-law, a practicing attorney and judge in Savannah, GA. I even showed stuff posted here to a fellow classmate of mine, a JAG officer. She laughed her head off and wondered where and what is the problem.

3. My business if I want to post something PM, especially when it brings the light the character of someone I consider a fraud, based upon his PM, and based upon his points made that were proven very false (EdEKit) by myself and several other individuals by individuals very intimately in the know.

Keep in mind people, this is a message board. If you get your panties in a wad over a message board, you are either a. a juvenille playing hooky from school b. retired with nothing to do (The Villages, Florida's Friendliest Hometown, has space available, they even promise "..the most active years of your life.." there) c. playing on the computer at work when you should instead be worried about the company bottom line/your assignments d. you do not have a life.


OF COURSE you evaded the REAL question... lol, as I knew you would!!!

And I sure bet you 'picked and chose' what you showed your JAG, or maybe we could send the forum site addy to all the CO's and JAG's at Leavenworth so they can see how ugly and mean you are to the world....

They died laughing? I don't think so, not if you showed them your ugly, insulting, crude, rude and crass comments, THAT in and of itself makes the Military look bad, and trust me... Being a Military brat and a Military wife for as many years that I was, I KNOW for a fact that they would have a FIT over your actions on this forum.

And WHOSE panties are in a wad? Certainly not mine... mine NEVER get in a wad over the likes of you and your crappiness... I just find the BEST way to handle things so my panties are doing just fine, Thank you!! Roll Eyes

I further think the MAJORITY of forum members who have seen your uncalled for ATTACKS on people KNOW who the juvenile is!!! LOL... I have a grandson with more character and maturity than you have, and he is only 12 years old!!!

If you think for one second by coming on here, making your "what you think" are logical answers to questions not asked, or not answer questions were asked bothers me in ANY way, then THAT is your FIRST mistake!!! lol.


I have spoken my piece...have a nice life...

Oh, found your question, KS: "..are you threatening us?" Ah, no. Live long and prosper....
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Neither one of those were the ACTUAL questions you have been evading.. Read the WHOLE post instead of just what you WANT to so you can sling more insults....in fact, I am pretty sure now WHY you are evading them!!! I have 'sources' too, bet ya didn't know that!!!!


Have a good day, KS.....go bait someone else.
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Originally posted by Brentenman:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Neither one of those were the ACTUAL questions you have been evading.. Read the WHOLE post instead of just what you WANT to so you can sling more insults....in fact, I am pretty sure now WHY you are evading them!!! I have 'sources' too, bet ya didn't know that!!!!


Have a good day, KS.....go bait someone else.



It isn't BAIT, it was honest questions that deserved HONEST answers, which you seem unable to give...

As far as Baiting, I think anyone on here could read a LOT of posts on the first page and see just WHO was BAITING who!!! And that was you, only it wasn't just ME you have been baiting, you have been baiting a few others, but I cannot take their stand, they can and are very capable of doing it on their own!!!

B'man... you are in dire need of some "soul searching"... you are "all over the map" with your comments...
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Originally posted by smurph:
Kinderd may as well give getting a STRAIGHT answer up, there have been NUMEROUS STRAIGHT FORWARD questions asked by several posters to Brent The Great,he has yet to give a straight forward answer.


Yep, you are right... I looked back over the postings and can SEE for myself exactly WHAT the questions were he so politically evaded... funny huh? Big Grin NOW it even makes me wonder if he is actually WHO he says he is... and WHAT he says he is... very very interesting... Guess I need to contact some of my own sources on this one Big Grin
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Mr, edekit, you are one couragous citizen, to allow all of these people write all of the things and call you almost every name in the book and it don't even phase you. ...
...diplomacy and understanding the other side is the key to democracy, those fools are only interested in making enemys if you don't carry the same view they do. ...


1) There is nothing courageous going on on a forum. It is a forum for crying out loud!

2) I hope you understand the other side when it comes to terrorism - because they want us all dead and diplomacy never works with terrorists.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by smurph:
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There are a few people on here who actually REMEMBER the pictures and comments... And now, have learned to SAVE them.


hehehehe yuppers


I been playing on the Internet for about 9 years now, I KNOW how to copy/paste and save information that COULD prove pertinant someday Wink


Copy/pasting from forums for evidence is not what I call "playing on the internet."
It is sad if you take this stuff to that extreme.

Brent - cool off on this one - they are just trying to rile you up - one thing they are good at.
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Originally posted by imho:

1) There is nothing courageous going on on a forum. It is a forum for crying out loud!

2) I hope you understand the other side when it comes to terrorism - because they want us all dead and diplomacy never works with terrorists.


1. I hope by judging your avitar, you and I are on the same side.

2. If you are attacking me, then you and I become enemys.

3. I did not say anything about reasoning with terrorists.

4. There is nothing more the other side would like to see than you and I fighting within. When you and I are busy attacking one another and calling names it creates the division the terrorists want. you and I need to debate and come to a reasonable compromise that can benifet the both of us. If you are not interested in this there is no need for any further discussion.
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Originally posted by imho:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Mr, edekit, you are one couragous citizen, to allow all of these people write all of the things and call you almost every name in the book and it don't even phase you. ...
...diplomacy and understanding the other side is the key to democracy, those fools are only interested in making enemys if you don't carry the same view they do. ...


1) There is nothing courageous going on on a forum. It is a forum for crying out loud!

2) I hope you understand the other side when it comes to terrorism - because they want us all dead and diplomacy never works with terrorists.


Is this some sort of "CODED" message because unclegus said a very nice thing about someone on the forum??? Is that not allowed???

You are one of the most confusing people on the forum... you are either so far one way that you down abortion and women and Biblical issues, or else you are so far the other way that you are talking about terrorism????

Wanna enlighten us, maybe things of this nature is the KEY to bring us all together instead of keeping all the arguments going???

If that were true, I would be the FIRST to be on your side on that!!!!
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Originally posted by imho:
[Copy/pasting from forums for evidence is not what I call "playing on the internet."
It is sad if you take this stuff to that extreme.

Brent - cool off on this one - they are just trying to rile you up - one thing they are good at.


EVIDENCE??? Wow, how dramatic we are becoming.... I just want B'man to KNOW that I was a military dependant almost ALL my life, and I KNOW how things work, and I further know that the things he has posted is WRONG for him to do so, that was not a threat or anything else... so how come you came on and said this???

Especially since, like smurph said, there are quite a few threads on here that you flaunt YOUR expertise also... so what DOES give...

What is the big secret?

Do we have a SECRET SOCIETY going on here in the forum????

If There is, then maybe we can use THAT as a way to ALL get along instead of at each others throats all the time???? Smiler
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
The Barrister was right, he was also wrong. There are some people participating in this forum who fit Ken's definition of Alabamans. There are more who do not. I have had fun, and I will be around, but I have other obligations, and plans. Intellectual battles with unarmed civilians are the metaphysical equivalent of genocide. Winning is out of the question if the opposition will fight to the death to defend a word they cannot define, and a philosophy they will not practice.


For what it is worth, the memory of Ken, and ALL his belief's are still with me and my family. The day of his funeral, when they folded the Flag that was draped over the casket, there was only ONE of his brothers there to accept it... Later on that evening, his kids got it, but at the time, they were all just TOO upset to understand how and what to do with it...... that was so sad.

But he did so with such eloquence!! Barrister was right, and Barrister was wrong... and I probably am the ONLY one who knows what you mean by that since Barrister was a huge part of my kinship for 25 years before his death. He was a very intelligent human being, and a War Veteran, and his death was untimely and tragic... but I understand your message... and everyone on here who took pot-shots at ME because of the fact that you knew him, and I was related to him, have to live with themselves because they do NOT have a clue as to what they are saying!!!!

Sad huh?

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