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Originally posted by beternU:
"Unable to duck" ????

That conlusion fails to recognize how seat belts operate. The shoulder harness element of a seat belt system does not lock in place until a collision actually occurs. The inertia reel device of the seat belt system is designed and constructed to operate that way. It locks the shoulder harness at the instant of impact, not before. In ordinary use, the shoulder harness permits the operator to move around--to lean forward or sideways. If Samantha Stewart had realized she was heading for a crash, she would have had time to duck, assuming she realized it in time to duck. Apparently she did not realize that she was about to crash into the bus and thus had no incentive to duck. Ducking, then, is a non-factor, not only for the reason I have described, but because--as others have correctly pointed out--a rear-end crash into a school bus at the apparent speed involved is essentially a sudden-death circumstance!

LoveShack, you need to separate yourself from the company and advice of the know-nothing dingbats who are giving you stupid, erroneous and ludicrous information on seat belt use. Instead, you and other non-experts on such matters should let the sad and preventable example of Ms. Stewart's death inspire you NOT to emulate her example of deadly inattentiveness.


Amen.
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Originally posted by beternU:

The shoulder harness element of a seat belt system does not lock in place until a collision actually occurs.


Just noting an observation but in all of the cars I've driven, if I pressed on the brake suddenly and hard enough (instead of rolling to a stop), the shoulder harness has locked into place. No collision required.
forumaddict2: When Alabama implements safety inspections and emissions testing-Alabama highways will suddenly be a safer place to drive-because they'll be REALLY empty, judging by all the smoke-blowin'-parts-flappin'-exhaust-roarin'-no-lights-workin' beaters I see on the roads now.

BitternU, I dunno how your seatbelts work, but in almost every vehicle I've ever driven, the shoulder harness inertial lock can't tell the difference between a collision or leaning over quickly to reach the glovebox or something on the passenger floorboard. To the inertial lock-it's all the same-rapid deceleration. Sometimes the harness in my bus won't let me lean forward to adjust the seat control whether I'm moving or not. All it senses is a rapid unreeling of the harness belt.

"Duck" is not a valid response to a stationary object in your path. "Paying attention" and "reacting appropriately" like....Oh...I dunno- STEPPING ON THE BRAKE IS. That's like telling the police officer that stops ya for your kids not having seabelts on in the front seat that "It's OK, They don't need to wear seatbelts because right before I crash-I just give them the "DUCK!" command."

Puh-leeze.
To all you cell-phone yakking mouth-breathers:

Driving a motor vehicle requires your full attention the whole time you're out there operating your vehicle. If you're texting-you're not looking where you're going. If you're rolling down the roads in a ton or so potential weapon and you're not looking where you're going-Then you're an idiot and a hazard to the rest of us. If you're rolling down the road-not looking where you're going AND you hit a large.... brightly... colored........*/ STATIONARY OBJECT\*...... with...... FLASHING.......... LIGHTS on it-You're a @#&%in' "GRADE-A MORON!"
Get the effing hell off my road, you smack-tard!
Hit me cause ya got yer nose in a phone and ya better make it a good enough whack to kill me-cause otherwise, when you eventually heal-I'll make sure yer butt rings every time ya take a dump.
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looking at the other pictures from her myspace profile...several were 'self-portraits' taken while driving...unfortunate indeed that this seems to have been such an easily preventable fatality...regardless of the debate herein regarding seat belt law in Alabama et.al., I doubt very seriously this particular incident would be an acceptable 'centerpiece' example for any litigation toward that end...
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Originally posted by barksdale.jeff:
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Both families of the drivers need to consider filing a billion dollar lawsuit against Alabama because Alabama has some of the most stupid laws in the country.


They have stupid laws because they have stupid people. I cannot remember driving in to any state over the past years and not seeing a sign that requires a seat belt.

I also notice that this was your only post to this thread. You started this thread then felt nothing more to comment further.

You are the reason that these laws are created since you want to file a billion dollar lawsuit against Alabama. If it was not to be flied against the State I am sure you would want to file one against the auto maker.


That suit would likely include the bus maker, tire mfg., asphalt supplier, paving contractor...oh, and don't forget the gas company who irresponsibly sold her the fuel.

Alabama was the last state to pass a mandatory seat belt law.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
It's my understanding that Ms. Stewart was TXTing at the time the crash occured.


how do u know she was txting while driving. i knew her very well she was my sisters granparents god daughter and i saw her a lot. she could have been tryin to call someone and didnt see the busand couldn't stop. it's really sad that i loved her so much and now people are talking bad about her cause they thought she was txting. it was actually her birthday that day and she was born on friday which is when the crash happened

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