Landfill not a problem

Interesting point. Are you referencing fertilization and pest chemicals?

According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

I'm still attempting to find "excaping" in my dictionary.

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Originally posted by mrsblueskies:
According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

Take a look at the FACTS and you will not feel so confident about landfills and leaking liners:

http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/Landfills.htm

http://www.stopwmx.org/liner.html

http://concernedcitizens.homestead.com/FAQ20.html

The impact of golf course chemicals and fertilizers on the environment is not negligible, but such impacts have been greatly reduced in recent years through the development of slow-release fertilizers and non-persistent herbicides. A factor affecting gthe use of both herbicides and fertilizers is the COST of these materials, Golf course management professionals are typically "stingy" in gthe application of fertilizers and herbicides. They know, better than the ordinary homeowner knows, how much is enough to apply to get the job done. From what I know (and I have done environmental consulting work for golf courses) applications of chemicals and fertilizers on golf courses are typically carried out with more care and intelligence than are applications of these materials to residential properties by homeowners.

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

That's just a dumb and ignorant remark.

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Originally posted by Rancid Apple:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

That's just a dumb and ignorant remark.

Wow. Not just dumb..or ignorant, but dumb AND ignorant. Hmm...Those are two different conditions.
Well...Care to elaborate, Rancid?

I THINK THEY WANT IT FOR A BINGO

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Originally posted by Rancid Apple:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

That's just a dumb and ignorant remark.

Please elaborate. Unless you've been living in a cave for the last 6 months, you should know that everything I said is true. If not being a liberal-coolaid drinking-chicken little wanna be makes me ignorant, then I'll proudly wear that as a badge of honor.

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Originally posted by chicago cafe:
I THINK THEY WANT IT FOR A BINGO

Wow. All caps, too. You must've stayed up all night working on that response. Relax. Have a belt and a smoke-you've obviously earned 'em.

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by mrsblueskies:
According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

EPA never said anything like that about CO2 and you are indeed either a liar or an ignorant, misinformed wretch to put up such twaddle as that.

Hey! There'll be NO twaddling in public! Move along people, nothing to see here...

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Originally posted by beternU:
EPA never said anything like that about CO2 and you are indeed either a liar or an ignorant, misinformed wretch to put up such twaddle as that.

I thought I'd look to see what the EPA did say about CO2...

EPA Moves to Regulate CO2 as a Hazard to Health

From the article

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Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Lisa Jackson announced that the agency had finalized its finding that greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, pose a threat to human health and welfare.

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Originally posted by beternU:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by mrsblueskies:
According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

EPA never said anything like that about CO2 and you are indeed either a liar or an ignorant, misinformed wretch to put up such twaddle as that.

Would you like ketchup with that crow.

Landfills have been around for a long time and I don't see them going away anytime soon. Yes, they are not the "perfect" solution to our waste problems, but until a better solution is found we are stuck with them. Recycling is great, but most people are not going to participate for various reasons. Personally, I recycle 60-70% of my waste, so I feel as though I'm doing my part.

I've still seen too much ridiculousness from the EPA over my many years of working in general industry to not be skeptical of them.

Landfills are not going away, but there are far better solutions that what our city now offers. Not to mention the fact that most municipalities have gotten out of the landfill business altogether. As far as the Florence landfill location, you don't need EPA or anyone else to tell you that it is a poor choice for a municipal landfill. Some things are no brainers, as the saying goes.

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by beternU:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by mrsblueskies:
According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

EPA never said anything like that about CO2 and you are indeed either a liar or an ignorant, misinformed wretch to put up such twaddle as that.

Would you like ketchup with that crow.

Well, Hooberbloob, you have not yet served up any crow for me to eat, with or without ketchup. Kindly show me where anyone from EPA said that CO2 is going to kill us all and I will eat it with ketchup, mustard and horseradish.

The caps were important.a bingo parlor license is held for this area of the state.and it would be all but ready .its a good idea and a rumour downtown.the state is to vote today (?)to allow bingo thru-out.so why not

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Originally posted by beternU:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by beternU:

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Originally posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

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Originally posted by mrsblueskies:
According to the EPA, all landfills will eventually leak, even with the best liners and methods.
"All landfills will eventually fail and leak leachate into ground and surface water. Plastics are not inert. State-of-the-art plastic (HDPE) landfill liners (1/10 inch or 100 mils thick) and plastic pipes allow chemicals and gases to pass through their membranes, become brittle, swell, and breakdown. "
True that a golf course produces run off that could be hazardous to the environment. But compared to the amounts of possible contaminants from a city landfill? Probably can't be compared IMO.

Also according to the EPA, CO2 is going to kill us all. I'm very skeptical of anything they put out.

EPA never said anything like that about CO2 and you are indeed either a liar or an ignorant, misinformed wretch to put up such twaddle as that.

Would you like ketchup with that crow.

Well, Hooberbloob, you have not yet served up any crow for me to eat, with or without ketchup. Kindly show me where anyone from EPA said that CO2 is going to kill us all and I will eat it with ketchup, mustard and horseradish.

WHAT? Take the feathers out of your mouth, I can't hear you!