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COP in Single Car Accident! PART 1. Missed a curve while fiddling with radio!
Goes to show we all have too much to do while driving! Officers today have dispatch communications, laptops, video cams, cellphones with text messaging being sent and received, radar-guns, mounds of various paper work in their face and all that radio gear. Hey Chiefs and State of Alabama maybe All Law Officers should be forced to drive when they drive and use gadgets when they are not driving! We do have a high number of Officers fiddling around with way too much gear when they should be watching the road.
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Part 2:I observe everyday many running marked POLICE cruisers the roads at high speed while running no lights or siren warnings. In a hury to get home, to court or back to the station? Slow it down guys or turn on some lights at least!

To top it all off they are not bound by the 20% window tint law so their visibility is severely impair as well. Seems like the old saying: "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

Officers please pay attention to driving when you are underway and use all your great support gear when you are stopped! We need to keep these excellent public service members in service. We need everyone of you! You guys set a great example for the rest of us. Thank you!

In the words of Hill Street Blues, "Let's be careful out there!"
Part 3:Annoying and inconsiderate TVA COP:

One other note on questionable Law enforcement behavior: There's a TVA cop that cuts through a residential area at Arlington Blvd. everyday on his way home about 5:00pm! This guys tailgated me by only inches for over a mile down Florence Blvd. I guess he was attempting to intimidate me into changing lanes? I was in the right lane doing the speed limit. I see him do this inconsiderate ( of the residents of the neighborhood everyday like clockwork.)

Hey TVA cops guys how about you too setting a great example! We all want to get home safe. And you of all should obey the no thru traffic regulations. Are you TVA COPS above the law? You sure at like you are. Why can't TVA contract this service out to the local city and county law agencies? Kind of like TVA paying all there huge executive bonuses and then mismanaging the spent coal so bad the **** breaks and homes are destroyed, river is polluted and lives are endangered! I hope some of those bonuses this year go to clean up that mess management ignored while counting their "we're so great" bonus! money.
I couldn't agree more. I was almost hit by a Lauderdale County Sherriff's Deputy one day when I was running on a residential street. She was talking on her cell phone and rolled through a stop sign, she didn't come close to a complete stop.

On another note, are deputies allow to take their cars home over night? This same car is parked at a house near mine every night. I don't know, maybe they are.

In general, I think the LEOs in this area do great work. It is probably just a few that do things to make the rest look bad.
Part 4: Opinions Are Like *&^% Holes!


Good question Unclegus~

IMO Shoals, Maybe you need to just get out of the way! Wink

I can't stand to see some new comer open an account just to come on here & bash somebody & then run away feeling they have made their point. Here's a piece of advice for you, if you see a Law Enforcement Officer on your tail, you need to move that tail right on out of the way!
Lights or No Lights. It doesn't require Brain Surgery skills. Not ALL calls can require the use of Emergency Lights & Sirens, I promise ya that!
I have no problem with complaining about bad driving, regardless of who is doing it.

If it is a cop you're complaining about, though, there are productive ways of solving the problem. Such as complaining to the supervisor/chief of police. If that doesn't resolve the problem, go up the chain of command. For example, the rant about the TVA officer is specific enough that the Commander of TVA Police should be able to quickly determine which officer is driving a marked unit home via that particular route. He then can take appropriate action. The complaint about the deputy is a little more vague, but as they only have so many female deputies, it shouldn't be that hard to track down.

You'll probably get several sympathetic replies if you post here, but you won't get any results until you go to their supervisors.
I agree with Sassy. As a person that has received several deserved speeding tickets over their lifetime, I can say MOST police men/women are pretty normal, nice everyday folks - at least they were to me.

However, they aren't perfect and SOME may need to be reminded that they are not above the law - as one of my new neighbors did. I think he must have gotten his fast, new patrol car the same week he moved on this quiet, country road I live on - where my step daughter rides her bike. (she doesn't ride actually in the street)

The 4th day he FLEW by my house (waaaaay in the country and he is a CITY officer) - I realized his boss needed a phone call.

He takes his time coming home now.

Very simple. Smiler
hey FloTownDown08
I'm much less of a new comer than you I registered on this forum on: 21 November 2006 you Registered: 14 January 2008! I just don't have as much small talk and other user put down comments as you, I think you summed it up in your tag line warning others that have a different opinion than you. I have lived and grown through the flame the newbies years ago on the net. Don't worry you will go through growth and maturity as well. 1661 posts is great but if they are all like the one above read a book book on editing. Often more is less. To quote yourself:"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." FloTownDown08 spinning '60's peace sign and empty skull and If that TVA cops wanted around me he had two complete lanes to my left. He was simply be a jerk. could you be that TVA cop? So You might want to fill that empty skull logo with some logical thought and not just post to increment your number of postings!
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Originally posted by shoals:
hey FloTownDown08
I'm much less of a new comer than you I registered on this forum on: 21 November 2006 you Registered: 14 January 2008! I just don't have as much small talk and other user put down comments as you, I think you summed it up in your tag line warning others that have a different opinion than you. I have lived and grown through the flame the newbies years ago on the net. Don't worry you will go through growth and maturity as well. 1661 posts is great but if they are all like the one above read a book book on editing. Often more is less. To quote yourself:"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." FloTownDown08 spinning '60's peace sign and empty skull and If that TVA cops wanted around me he had two complete lanes to my left. He was simply be a jerk. could you be that TVA cop? So You might want to fill that empty skull logo with some logical thought and not just post to increment your number of postings!


She aint no TVA cop for sure . lol Razzer
But talk about someone needing a book book on editing !!! I had to read your post 3 times to understand it all. Roll Eyes
And why pick on her avatar ? Razzer
Just because she didnt agree with you , you jumped on her .
Well she has friends that will come to her rescue . Wink
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Originally posted by shoals:
hey FloTownDown08
I'm much less of a new comer than you I registered on this forum on: 21 November 2006 you Registered: 14 January 2008! I just don't have as much small talk and other user put down comments as you, I think you summed it up in your tag line warning others that have a different opinion than you. I have lived and grown through the flame the newbies years ago on the net. Don't worry you will go through growth and maturity as well. 1661 posts is great but if they are all like the one above read a book book on editing. Often more is less. To quote yourself:"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." FloTownDown08 spinning '60's peace sign and empty skull and If that TVA cops wanted around me he had two complete lanes to my left. He was simply be a jerk. could you be that TVA cop? So You might want to fill that empty skull logo with some logical thought and not just post to increment your number of postings!

Apparently you've only had 9 (so called) "logical" thoughts in the past 2+ years.

(note to self: DNFT, DNFT, DNFT....)
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Originally posted by shoals:
hey FloTownDown08
I'm much less of a new comer than you I registered on this forum on: 21 November 2006 you Registered: 14 January 2008! I just don't have as much small talk and other user put down comments as you, I think you summed it up in your tag line warning others that have a different opinion than you. I have lived and grown through the flame the newbies years ago on the net. Don't worry you will go through growth and maturity as well. 1661 posts is great but if they are all like the one above read a book book on editing. Often more is less. To quote yourself:"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." FloTownDown08 spinning '60's peace sign and empty skull and If that TVA cops wanted around me he had two complete lanes to my left. He was simply be a jerk. could you be that TVA cop? So You might want to fill that empty skull logo with some logical thought and not just post to increment your number of postings!



I am so sorry that you are unable to only have 9 thoughts in over the past 2 years.
I will straight up answer your questions though, and afterwards, will follow my signature & be done with you!


No I am not a TVA Police Officer, but I do happened to personally know the Officer you are referring to very well, enough to know that he lives just right off of Arlington Blvd & has as much RIGHT to be there as you do!


Secondly, if you are going to refer to my avatar, please GET IT RIGHT!
The "Empty Skull" remark thoroughly makes me understand why you have only had 9 thoughts in your Forum Lifetime, and will leave you with something to do, a little research project, seeing how you obviously have some time on your hands, that is, when you are not out on the road driving so perfectly, Why don't you look up The Grateful Dead, and things might not be so empty in your life.

You should really fill it with something rather than waking up in the mornings wondering who or what is the next person or thing that is going to offend you for you to cry about. Have you really been that protected in your lifetime?
Here's a suggestion, stay off the road or get out of the way, you do not own the streets and if you have a complaint, then take it to higher authority, don't badger, because you don't wear it well! Wink
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Originally posted by shoals:
To top it all off they are not bound by the 20% window tint law so their visibility is severely impair as well. Seems like the old saying: "What's good for the goose is good for the gander!"


The police are not bound by the 20% window tint law, since there is no 20% window tint law. The window tint law states that windows must have a transperancy of 32% or higher.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
I have no problem with complaining about bad driving, regardless of who is doing it.

If it is a cop you're complaining about, though, there are productive ways of solving the problem. Such as complaining to the supervisor/chief of police. If that doesn't resolve the problem, go up the chain of command. For example, the rant about the TVA officer is specific enough that the Commander of TVA Police should be able to quickly determine which officer is driving a marked unit home via that particular route. He then can take appropriate action. The complaint about the deputy is a little more vague, but as they only have so many female deputies, it shouldn't be that hard to track down.

You'll probably get several sympathetic replies if you post here, but you won't get any results until you go to their supervisors.
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sure. and set yourself up for retrobution
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
I have no problem with complaining about bad driving, regardless of who is doing it.

If it is a cop you're complaining about, though, there are productive ways of solving the problem. Such as complaining to the supervisor/chief of police. If that doesn't resolve the problem, go up the chain of command. For example, the rant about the TVA officer is specific enough that the Commander of TVA Police should be able to quickly determine which officer is driving a marked unit home via that particular route. He then can take appropriate action. The complaint about the deputy is a little more vague, but as they only have so many female deputies, it shouldn't be that hard to track down.

You'll probably get several sympathetic replies if you post here, but you won't get any results until you go to their supervisors.
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sure. and set yourself up for retrobution


Obviously, you don't have spell check. The word you attempted to write is "retribution".

If you're scared, say you're scared. America was not founded by timid souls that scurried away from danger. Nor was the continent settled by such. If you've been wronged, or have observed wrong doing by a public employee, you should have the fortitude (or cajones) to complain about it to the proper persons, rather than whine about it on an anonymous forum.
No, there are still plenty of silent runs. If an officer receives an alarm call (and you wouldn't believe how many they receive a day) and is on the other side of town, there is not an immediate need to run code and for good reason. If it acutally ends up being a "burglary in process" and the offender is still inside the residence/building, you don't want to scare him/her off...you want to catch them in the act. Kind of hard to do running lights and sirens. Same thing with Domestic calls. You don't want to run the guy off that's beating on his wife, you want to catch the bastard. But you run lights and sirens and he hears you coming, you're probably not going to catch him. So just because you see a cop driving fast without lights and sirens blasting doesn't mean he's in a hurry to get off the clock! However, they still try to get their call as fast as possible without being an outright danger to the public but at the same time trying to catch the criminals in the act.

2nd, Yes, most supervisors and some deputies are allowed to take their vehicle home.

3rd, No, TVA can't contract out their patrol duties to the cities and counties. TVA patrolman cover wildlife management areas and parks all over this state and TN. Even the ones you see riding around here can be dispatched to a call as far off as 100 miles. Normally they are all dispatched out of one office and that can be as far off as the Nickajack, TN area or as close as the local Trooper Post.

It's not about being above the law. It's about dealing with parts of the law the general public has no idea about or what it takes to do it. It's easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback but until you've stood in the pocket and stared down a 6-5 295lb d-lineman knowing you're gonna take a hit, well...it's best just be glad it's not you doing it.
(a) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.

(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:

(1) Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of this chapter;

(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger life or property;

(4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.

(c) The exemptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when such vehicle is making use of an audible signal meeting the requirements of Section 32-5-213 and visual requirements of any laws of this state requiring visual signals on emergency vehicles.
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Originally posted by bunco402:
(a) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.

(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:

(1) Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of this chapter;

(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger life or property;

(4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.

(c) The exemptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when such vehicle is making use of an audible signal meeting the requirements of Section 32-5-213 and visual requirements of any laws of this state requiring visual signals on emergency vehicles.



We know what the law says but I also know you make silent runs just like the rest of us.
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Originally posted by bunco402:
(a) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.

(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:

(1) Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of this chapter;

(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger life or property;

(4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.

(c) The exemptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when such vehicle is making use of an audible signal meeting the requirements of Section 32-5-213 and visual requirements of any laws of this state requiring visual signals on emergency vehicles.



You left out the most important part of that whole code.

(d) The foregoing provisions shall not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor shall such provisions protect the driver from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
OK, please explain again the logic of making a silent run on a domestic? You would rather have the guy keep beating on the woman just so you don't "run him off"? That's absurd. It's not like you don't know who he is. I can't believe you'd rather make an on-scene arrest rather than stopping an assault in progress.


There is no logic in that basic scenario. You could add other factors and possibly justify it, such as the bad guy was wanted on felony warrants, and he was not actively assaulting the victim. Otherwise, lights and siren when called for by code, because it's your job, your financial well being and quite possibly your freedom that is hanging on the line if you have an accident when responding.
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Originally posted by jjuliesmiles:
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Originally posted by Backwoods:
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I have lived and grown through the flame the newbies years ago on the net.

I wanted to stay out of this,but I've got to ask.WTF does this mean?


I gotta second this, WTF does that mean???????


For you that don't understand the "flame"concept I made earlier, here is a definition: Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. Flaming usually occurs in the social context of a discussion board, Internet Relay Chat (IRC) or even through e-mail. An Internet user typically generates a flame response to other posts or users posting on a site, and such a response is usually not constructive, does not clarify a discussion, and does not persuade others. Sometimes, flamers attempt to assert their authority, or establish a position of superiority over other users. Other times, a flamer is simply an individual who believes he or she carries the only valid opinion. This leads him or her to personally attack those who disagree. In some cases, flamers wish to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case they can be called "trolls". Most often however, flames are angry or insulting messages transmitted by people who have strong feelings about a subject.

Some of you on the TD forums are very enthusiastic about your opinions... But that's great it keep's our minds active instead of buying it to the popular press "truth". This is a lively place to post. You guys don't pull your punches. I like that... Thanks to all that contribute even if you just lurk!
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
OK, please explain again the logic of making a silent run on a domestic? You would rather have the guy keep beating on the woman just so you don't "run him off"? That's absurd. It's not like you don't know who he is. I can't believe you'd rather make an on-scene arrest rather than stopping an assault in progress.


Ok, I'll explain. And will disagree with Sassy on this one too.

I can't believe that Sassy has never worked a domestic call where you run code and find the offender has left and the victim refuse medical treatment. You beg her to at least please find somehwere else to stay for the night because your department can't stand guard all night long in case he returns. She refuses and decides to remain at the home. Sure enough 2 hours later he returns, and sure enough she lets him back in, and sure enough he smacks her around again, and sure enough she calls 911 again. You get the call and run code again and he's gone upon your arrival...again.

Sadly, most departments (because manpower vs. number of calls) can't stand guard outside a residence all shift long until the offender returns. We can play this game all night or you as the officer could wise up and sneak up on the offender by NOT running code! Why is that hard to understand?

No one wants cause anyone to continue to get beat but just because you know who he is doesn't mean you'll ever catch him...especially if you keep announcing that you're coming for him.
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Originally posted by dntblnk:
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
OK, please explain again the logic of making a silent run on a domestic? You would rather have the guy keep beating on the woman just so you don't "run him off"? That's absurd. It's not like you don't know who he is. I can't believe you'd rather make an on-scene arrest rather than stopping an assault in progress.


Ok, I'll explain. And will disagree with Sassy on this one too.

I can't believe that Sassy has never worked a domestic call where you run code and find the offender has left and the victim refuse medical treatment. You beg her to at least please find somehwere else to stay for the night because your department can't stand guard all night long in case he returns. She refuses and decides to remain at the home. Sure enough 2 hours later he returns, and sure enough she lets him back in, and sure enough he smacks her around again, and sure enough she calls 911 again. You get the call and run code again and he's gone upon your arrival...again.

Sadly, most departments (because manpower vs. number of calls) can't stand guard outside a residence all shift long until the offender returns. We can play this game all night or you as the officer could wise up and sneak up on the offender by NOT running code! Why is that hard to understand?

No one wants cause anyone to continue to get beat but just because you know who he is doesn't mean you'll ever catch him...especially if you keep announcing that you're coming for him.


No problem. You work it your way. I'll work it mine. Sure I've been back to the same hous three or four times in a shift. He knows she's called. She told him. He's gonna run as soon as he hears you in the driveway anyway.

If I'm over the speed limit, I have lights and siren on...no exceptions. I'm on shift for XX hours, so I handle whatever calls can be responded to in that time frame.

Of course, there is this rule of thumb.

The speed at which you respond to a fight call (domestics included) is inversely proportional to how long you've been a cop.

Rookies run code to every call. Old cops don't.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by dntblnk:
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Originally posted by lawguy07:
OK, please explain again the logic of making a silent run on a domestic? You would rather have the guy keep beating on the woman just so you don't "run him off"? That's absurd. It's not like you don't know who he is. I can't believe you'd rather make an on-scene arrest rather than stopping an assault in progress.


Ok, I'll explain. And will disagree with Sassy on this one too.

I can't believe that Sassy has never worked a domestic call where you run code and find the offender has left and the victim refuse medical treatment. You beg her to at least please find somehwere else to stay for the night because your department can't stand guard all night long in case he returns. She refuses and decides to remain at the home. Sure enough 2 hours later he returns, and sure enough she lets him back in, and sure enough he smacks her around again, and sure enough she calls 911 again. You get the call and run code again and he's gone upon your arrival...again.

Sadly, most departments (because manpower vs. number of calls) can't stand guard outside a residence all shift long until the offender returns. We can play this game all night or you as the officer could wise up and sneak up on the offender by NOT running code! Why is that hard to understand?

No one wants cause anyone to continue to get beat but just because you know who he is doesn't mean you'll ever catch him...especially if you keep announcing that you're coming for him.


No problem. You work it your way. I'll work it mine. Sure I've been back to the same hous three or four times in a shift. He knows she's called. She told him. He's gonna run as soon as he hears you in the driveway anyway.

If I'm over the speed limit, I have lights and siren on...no exceptions. I'm on shift for XX hours, so I handle whatever calls can be responded to in that time frame.

Of course, there is this rule of thumb.

The speed at which you respond to a fight call (domestics included) is inversely proportional to how long you've been a cop.

Rookies run code to every call. Old cops don't.


Sassy, I wouldn't call you an old cop. You are a more experienced or seasoned policeman that has already been there and done that. You know best how to judge the calls you get.
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Originally posted by shimara12:
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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
Jules, people who think of themselves as inferior to others, will always try use these slangs to try to intimidate others.
9P just got it wrong. Confused


Those self esteem issues will get you every time.


Go read a palm somewhere or get your tarot cards out & go play. This is over your head "Oh Gifted One".

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