If the PEOPLE are going to have the best Healthcare system in the world, then the PEOPLE should have access to the BEST drugs in the world.
It's a proven fact the marijuana aids in such HEALTH conditions such as glaucoma, nausea associated with "chemotherapy"...etc.
But, then again, that would cut into the zillion dollar "pharmaceutical" industry...wouldn't it?
It's a natural growing WEED.
Why it won't be legalized...same reason as you can't make your own liquor...ie: Moonshine...the GOVERNMENT will loose TAX MONEY!

"Cannabis was criminalized in the United States in 1937 due to Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. Several theories try to explain why it is illegal in most Western societies. Jack Herer, a cannabis legalization activist and writer, argues that the economic interests of the paper and chemical industry were a driving force to make it illegal.[24][25][26] Another explanation is that beneficial effects of hemp would lower the profit of pharmaceutical companies which therefore have a vital interest to keep cannabis illegal.[27] Those economic theories were criticized for not taking social aspect into account. The illegalization was rather a result of racism directed to associate American immigrants of Mexican and African descent with cannabis abuse.[28]"

Cut the South American/Mexican suppliers out!

Oh, but then, the DEA would have to cut back on thousand of overpaid agents...not to mention the zillions of dollars gained by "confiscation" of property/cash.

ps: You anti-pot dopers keep sucking your Valium, Xanax, whatever it takes...to make you feel "better".
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Originally posted by Tomme73:
Cage, do you suffer from one of the ailments you listed in your defense of marijuana?


No...Thank God. I do know people whom have gone thru chemo...it was ugly.
Others I've known, that have used "grass" and I don't mean recreational, have sworn by it.
By the way, HomerBob thinks you are a pothead...
I am not a pot user, never have been. But I agree with Cage. But it is like everything else, so much crap floating around for and against it, you do not know what to think. I think alcohol is alot worse than pot. But ppl will abuse anything. Look, they snort gas and paint fumes.
But it is a known FACT that pot helps ppl going thru chemo get their appetite back. For that reason alone, I support it. Will I ever smoke it, lets hope I never get cancer and lose my appetite. If it was my only recourse, yes I would. And I do not think law abiding citizens should have to break the law to get medical help. Another benefit, all these petty criminals in jail for pot, they could get out and make room for these violent criminals that are getting out early.
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Originally posted by mad American:
Dang when I retire, the first thang I am gonna do is roll a big ol doobie and get high. And cage is right.


OK, u will invite us over right? Cause, how things are going now, if someone is ever able to retire, we all need to see it and enjoy it with them Smiler
If for no other reason I would say legalize it just to put the drug lords out of business. Legalize it and tax it! The price would go down due to competition and not having a risk of going o jail for growing it, additionally the tax on the crap could be high enough that prices just level out to about what they are now and we end up with a nice new stream of revenue without the price climbing to where there would be much of black market for the product. With this done the drug cartels shrink and weaken making them easier to defeat as law enforcement would be able to use more resources for eradicating our country of the more harmful drugs such as crack, meth, opiates, etc.
No, no, no. It produces bad ole smoke that causes passers by to break out wheezing if they get just a little whiff. Your clothes will stink and your lungs will suffer and second hand smoke will cause all sorts of illnesses for your children--aside from the bad example you are setting for them. Kidding aside, you sound like those nuts on MSNBC who want to legalize all drugs. Sure, lets all get loopy and become slugs. Just what we need, more slugs.
I've been spending a fair amount of time in California the last couple of years. Even though marijuana is only legal for medical use according to state law (still illegal by federal law) it is readily available to just about anyone. That being said I don't notice any great difference in the behavior of the people out there from the people around here. In my opinion the casual observer will probably not notice any major behavioral changes in public due to the legalization of marijuana for medical or casual use. Societal changes are another matter. Decriminalization will result in fewer people having their lives and that of their families disrupted by the legal system. Violent crime associated with the dealing of marijuana would probably disappear. Tax revenue would increase. I suspect that employers will still be able to restrict hiring and prohibit use by their employees.
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Originally posted by F350:
I've been spending a fair amount of time in California the last couple of years. Even though marijuana is only legal for medical use according to state law (still illegal by federal law) it is readily available to just about anyone. That being said I don't notice any great difference in the behavior of the people out there from the people around here. In my opinion the casual observer will probably not notice any major behavioral changes in public due to the legalization of marijuana for medical or casual use. Societal changes are another matter. Decriminalization will result in fewer people having their lives and that of their families disrupted by the legal system. Violent crime associated with the dealing of marijuana would probably disappear. Tax revenue would increase. I suspect that employers will still be able to restrict hiring and prohibit use by their employees.


Exactly!
Just be sure to watch out for that forklift driver...or, "Granny" in her Cadillac...on Cox Creek Parkway...that just ate a "legal" Xanax!
There are just as many cons to legalizing marijuana as there are pros. I'm all for medicinal marijuana but we all know that will be abused by people like those on here supporting it. How can you disprove chronic nausea? And if you think legalization or even decriminalization will reduce crime you watch too much tv. There will always be a clandestine grow operation and an underground need. Look at prescription drugs. I heard of a guy selling Foclin to college students. Novel effort but futile I'm afraid.
House Judiciary committee is scheduled to hear this bill today. No idea whether it will pass that committee but I have doubts it will pass the full house and also the senate this year. It would be great if it did.

F350, I was reading the bill the other day and I believe it has a provision that no employer, professional licensing agency, etc., could discriminate (it may have said only discrimination in firing, not hiring) against a person solely because they are a medical marijuana card holder. I think that is a provision that certainly needs to be in the law. I don't see how you could have doctors prescribing (or recommending as the case may be) medication that would get someone fired or prevent them from getting a job. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that someone should be able to smoke it at work or work while under the influence. However, I don't see what the problem would be if someone smoked it when they got off work. The effects last only a few hours.
J'ville,

While I basically agree with you it is my understanding that most if not all of the employee drug testing began as an insurance requirement. If it is recognized as a medication then the insurance company may not be able to object. Just because it was so easily detectable never meant that it was a good policy to fire or not employ a person based on drug testing alone. American industry has lost a lot of good productive workers in the last 30 years or so based on the dubious value of urinalysis. A person who is impaired for whatever reason should not be at work but using urinalysis for that purpose is like burning down the barn to kill a rat.
I just checked the ALISON website. It says that the Med Marijuana bill was acted upon favorably with one substitute. The text of the substitute is not available yet. I guess the next step will be to go to the full house. Does anyone know whether there is a companion bill in the Senate?
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Originally posted by Homer Jim Billy Bob:
ok pothead none of that matters to me your just a pothead like all the others in this discussion


you obviously have the intellect of a rotten tomato, my debate with you is over. btw, i have never smoked marijuana.
Since the TD doesn't seem to be covering this issue, here's a link to an article in the Montgomery Advertiser (i don't know whether it's ok to post links to other news articles, but I'm going to do it this time)

House Panel Ok's Marijuana for Medical Use

I am very disappointed in some of the comments from the Judiciary members. Yusuf Saalam states that he is concerned that the bill, if passed, would lead to more widespread legalization of marijuana and also it would lead people to use "medical" marijuana even if they had no medical condition that necessitated it. Those are valid concerns, and I can understand them, but I, for one, think marijuana should be legal along the same lines as alcohol.

Spencer Collier has the most disappointing remarks, stating that the bill would create obstacles for law enforcement. This I totally don't understand. What obstacles would it create? It seems to me that it would lessen the burden on law enforcement if they didn't have to worry so much about marijuana. Many users would have med cards. If they have a card, they get a pass. Let them go, no hassle to law enforcement. I also disagree with adding the presumption that someone using marijuana is doing so illegally unless they can prove otherwise. It is ridiculous to make medical patients go to court to defend against a medicine they are legally using. Someone with an oxycontin prescription doesn't have to go defend themselves if they get pulled over with a prescribed bottle of pills (assuming they aren't under the influence, etc).

Lastly, one of the most interesting things about the article was the quote from Randy Garrick, who states he used marijuana and it was an effective treatment. However he got arrested and now is on probation so the doctor prescribed him morphine. That makes me feel a LOT better!

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