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I stumbled upon this on Rush's website. I thought it was pretty interesting just to see the extremes he goes to and how crazy he is. He is one reason a lot of people do not say they are Republicans anymore and one reason I am ashamed to say I have voted Republicans in the past. I attached the link and also copied and pasted the article. Rush really needs some help. Don't forget though everything that comes from Rush's site is extreme conservative and also on the link you can find backgroud of the story which does take some of Colin Powells words out of context. I think Powell is one person Limbaugh doesn't want to piss off.

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RUSH: I'm getting e-mail, people here at the studio, "When are you going to talk about Colin Powell?" Folks, I don't care, I don't care what Colin Powell says. This kind of stuff is said about me three times a day by all liberals under the sun, and Colin Powell is just another liberal. He did this back in December, and I responded to it then. Look, if you want to know what this is all about, Colin Powell is out there saying the American people want more taxes, they want bigger government. He's out there saying I am killing the Republican Party while he endorsed and voted for Obama. The Republican Party nominated the exact kind of candidate Colin Powell thinks the Republican Party should have and he still endorsed Obama. He's just mad at me because I'm the one person in the country that had the guts to explain his endorsement of Obama. It was purely and solely based on race. There can be no other explanation for it.

What Colin Powell needs to do is close the loop and become a Democrat, instead of claiming to be a Republican interested in reforming the Republican Party. He's not. He's a full-fledged Democrat. The only reason to endorse Obama is race. I don't think Powell thinks he could get away with not endorsing Obama because the Republicans nominated the exact candidate that had the exact campaign, other than Sarah Palin, that Colin Powell advocated. So I don't care. This kind of stuff is said about me ten times a day by liberals. He's just one of them doing it.
Don't wait on the world to change, step up and change it!!!
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His attacks on Colin Powell. I find it amusing that Limbaugh attacks everyone in the world but if someone remotely says anything toward him he berates them and tries to bash them in the ground. I might should have changed the forum headline to Limbaugh an Idiot. I find it amusing how he bashes Powell for endorsing Obama and saying it is only because of race.
According to most Republicans I have spoken with he was the greatest thing since sliced bread when he was Sec. of Defense for Bush, and I people even thought he should have been the V.P. running mate for McCain or Bush. I find it funny how when someone has their own opinion on a matter Rush and his buddies throw them under the bus.
intheknow,

Sorry, you should chose another moniker. Colin Powell was never Secretary of Defense. I know because I worked for the man when he was here at Foggy Bottom. Also, worked for Condi Rice and now unfortunately the Hildabeast. Which is why, I and many others are going on overseas assignments. Hillary's presence encouraged many to go on their first overseas tours in years.

I like Secretary Powell, but did not agree with him on his choice for President. Off to Addis Adaba in less than two months.
We don't claim Colin Powell to be a republican like the dems likes claiming Joe Lieberman.

Now if yall want to say Joe Lieberman isn't a traitor to the democrats, we will stop saying Colin Powell is a traitor to the GOP.

Now that you have declared Rush to be an idiot, what to you propose we do? outlaw idiots on the airways? String him up on the nearest tree? maybe tar and feather him. He is one man, one voice(an not the GOP Spokesman), if you don't like him, don't listen to him.
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intheknow,

Sorry, you should chose another moniker. Colin Powell was never Secretary of Defense. I know because I worked for the man when he was here at Foggy Bottom. Also, worked for Condi Rice and now unfortunately the Hildabeast. Which is why, I and many others are going on overseas assignments. Hillary's presence encouraged many to go on their first overseas tours in years.

I like Secretary Powell, but did not agree with him on his choice for President. Off to Addis Adaba in less than two months.

Howard, good to see you. I thought the beast got you! Big Grin
LMM,

Good thing about working in the evening at Foggy Bottom, the Hildabeast rarely is on board.

Besides, I keep a small bottle of holy water nearby!

Kissedgrits,

It was Richard Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of State that outed Valerie Plame, not Secretary Powell. Richard never saw a reporter he didn't speak too. Powell knows how to keep his own counsel -- years in the military, I guess!
Yes it was Armitage who leaked her name, but Armitage told Powell that he had done it. Powell stood by and said nothing about it to the press, leaving Scooter Libby to twist in the wind because he disliked Cheney so much. However, it was Powell, according to Bob Woodward, who was leaking a lot of inside info about Cheney's office to Woodward for several of his (Woodward's) books.

That kind of disloyalty is despicable.
The special prosecutor determined that Armitage was the initial leaker very early in his investigation. He also determined leaking her name did not violate the law as she was not a covert agent.

Scooter was the victim of an over zealous prosecutor -- he was bound and determined to prosecutor someone for something. Poor old Scooter was probably a victim of that and his poor memory. Secretary Powell did not enter into the prosecutor's investigation of Libby or his decision to prosecute him.

As to Woodward, he claims to talk to men in comas. Since Watergate, I've discounted much of his writings and reportage.
intheknow13,

Good to see you reading Rush’s material. Maybe you can eventually be in the know. Just what is insane about Rush’s statement about Powell? Rush says “what Powell needs to do is close the loop and become a Democrat”. Nobody can argue with that.

And how is Powell helping the Republican party when he endorsed and voted for obuma?

I don’t see any bashing except from you.

Your post is insane.
I will not defend Colin Powell's approval of Obama. However, the man has performed extreme services to the nation.

I remember too well, the hollow army of the seventies after Nam. Carter contributed to that situation so that we had a military with poor training, low morale and insufficient materiel to work with.

Tank gunners couldn't hit their targets, TOW and Dragon anti-tank weapons were scarce and the men who were to use them had little training and their marksmanship was poor. I never wish to see such a situation again in my lifetime.

It was General Powell and others, with President Reagan that gave the military the funds, equipment and training it needed to yield the superb outfit we saw fight in the first Iraq war and subsequent engagements.

I fear Obama will bring back that time.
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Scooter was the victim of an over zealous prosecutor -- he was bound and determined to prosecutor someone for something. Poor old Scooter was probably a victim of that and his poor memory. Secretary Powell did not enter into the prosecutor's investigation of Libby or his decision to prosecute him.


That does not dismiss the fact that Powell knew and said nothing. If someone of Powell's stature had come out publicly and said, "Scooter Libby did not do it, Armitage did" then the whole thing might have been avoided.

I don't care for Woodward either, but Colin Powell never denied being the source for some of Woodward's inside info and he has had plenty of opportunity to do so.

JMO...I see no need to be enamoured of Colin Powell. Every move he makes is self-serving. Again, my opinion and I'm stickin' with it.
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
I've discounted much of the spin from A right wing talk host or newspaper.


Probably much in the same way that we discount anything you post as left wing,American Values hating,anti-capitalist,class envy,BDS symptomatic utter BS.



It is no worse than what you post from the right wing propaganda. Yes, I disagree with you on politics!!
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
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Originally posted by N-the-Sticks:
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
I've discounted much of the spin from A right wing talk host or newspaper.


Probably much in the same way that we discount anything you post as left wing,American Values hating,anti-capitalist,class envy,BDS symptomatic utter BS.



It is no worse than what you post from the right wing propaganda. Yes, I disagree with you on politics!!


No ****? You disagree with me on politics.Surprises the hell out of me. I just post my opinon. You on the other hand post someone elses opinion 95 percent of the time.But thats what this forum is for is for differing opinions to debate.
OK blewdog and intheknow, since you 2 have plenty of time lets explore ACORN and SEIU and how they are tangled up with the Obama administration.

Here's a start

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RUSH: This is about ACORN. We have some bites here about ACORN and the Drive-Bys trying to suggest that McCain rallies are full of racists and violent protesters and so forth. Obama says that he had nothing to do with ACORN. His website says: I have nothing to do with ACORN; I never had anything to do with them. I may have known some people there, but ACORN is just some group down the street in the neighborhood that had a sign out that said "ACORN." I don't know anything about ACORN. Let's go December 1st, 2007, Heartland Democrat Presidential Forum.

Obama took questions from the moderator, Katherine Hughes. Katherine Hughes says, "If elected president would you agree in your first 100 days to meet with a delegation of representatives from these various community organizations, the Campaign for Community Values, and so forth, can they count on you in your first 100 days to sit down with them?"

OBAMA: Yes. But let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition we're going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda. (cheering) We're going to be having meetings all across the country with community organizations so that you have input into the agenda of the next presidency of the United States of America!

RUSH: So he's going to have ACORN in without preconditions. He's going to have all these community organizations in, and he's going to let them set the agenda and he's out there denying that he knows them.
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SEIU donations to Obama, against McCain exceed $16.5 million


SEIU's political action committee, SEIU Committee on Political Education, has given $13.53 million to Barack Obama's Democratic presidential campaign and another $3.16 million to oppose Republican John McCain's campaign, according to federal disclosure reports.

Meanwhile, the union's national office this morning put out this press release, touting its campaign efforts on behalf of Obama.

Money collected from union dues cannot be donated to political campaigns. SEIU, like many other unions, encourages members to donate to its PAC, which is free to use that money for political purposes.

But as we reported last week, The National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission that challenges the legality of a union political fundraising policy the foundation says that SEIU adopted at its summer convention.

The 4-page complaint filed today alleges that the union has set political fundraising targets for the locals and fines those that fail to meet those totals.

SEIU Local 1000 president Yvonne Walker blasted the complaint as, "a pre-election ploy by a group that is upset that workers are spending money to support candidates who support workers," and said that the foundation is "misrepresenting SEIU's political program in order to try to score political points in the media." The local represents about 95,000 state workers across several bargaining units.

Want to look more deeply into SEIU COPE's federal campaign donations?

You can read its latest Federal Election Commission disclosure form on its Obama donations by clicking here. Look for the "Candidate Year-to-Date Per Election for Office Sought" to get the latest number.

Click here for SEIU total donations opposing John McCain as of Oct. 15.

And you can click here for the union PAC's reports going all the way back to 1993.

Final note: We'd like to hear from SEIU members of either political persuation for a pre-election piece we're writing for this Thursday's State Worker column.
One more, one question though, are we seeing Chicago style politics at it's finest?


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SEIU may be linked to ultimatum on withholding stimulus funds
California officials say the union may have influenced a federal requirement that a pay cut be reversed for home healthcare workers.
By Evan Halper
May 11, 2009
Reporting from Sacramento -- Officials in the governor's office say a politically powerful union may have had inappropriate influence over the Obama administration's decision to withhold billions of dollars in federal stimulus money from California if the state does not reverse a scheduled wage cut for the labor group's workers.

The officials say they are particularly troubled that the Service Employees International Union, which lobbied the federal government to step in, was included in a conference call in which state and federal officials reviewed the wage cut and the terms of the stimulus package.



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California Secretary of Health and Human Services Kim Belshe said she could not recall another instance in which the federal government invited a significant stakeholder group into such government-to-government negotiations.

"The involvement of a stakeholder in this kind of state-federal deliberative process is unusual at best," she said. "This was really atypical and outside any norm I am familiar with."

In addition to several state and federal officials, participants in the April 15 conference call included an SEIU associate general counsel in Washington, a lobbyist for SEIU in California and a representative from SEIU's policy staff in California, according to a list provided by the Schwarzenegger administration.

SEIU spokeswoman Michelle Ringuette called suggestions that the union's involvement was inappropriate "absurd."

"We lobbied the Obama administration to get the stimulus money to California as quickly as possible, and we pointed out when the state considered action in violation" of the terms for receiving those funds, she said. "We make no apology . . . for expecting the Schwarzenegger administration to obey the law."

White House representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

During the conference call, state officials say, they were asked to defend the $74-million cut scheduled to take effect July 1. The cut lowers the state's maximum contribution to home health workers' pay from $12.10 per hour to $10.10.

The California officials on the call, who requested anonymity for fear of antagonizing the Obama administration, said they needed the savings to help balance the state budget.

The wages go to some 300,000 people who care for the elderly and ill in their homes. Those workers collectively pay millions of dollars in dues each month to SEIU and another union.

SEIU was among the biggest donors to President Obama's campaign, contributing $33 million. The union is also consistently among the biggest donors to Democrats in Sacramento and had aggressively fought the wage cut during state budget negotiations.

But Democratic lawmakers voted for the reduction in February as part of a budget deal they struck with Republicans, who have repeatedly targeted the multibillion-dollar home-care program.

The rapidly expanding program is intended to keep low-income elderly and disabled Californians out of nursing homes. People who qualify for the program can hire anyone they choose to take care of them, including relatives and friends.

The Obama administration has ruled that California must revoke the wage cut -- which would require a two-thirds vote of the Legislature and thus would need GOP support -- or lose $6.8 billion in federal stimulus funds.

The administration says the cut violates the terms of the stimulus money because it forces strapped local governments to make up the lost pay.

Belshe said the California program, called In Home Supportive Services, allows local governments to reduce caregiver wages if the state cuts funding.

At the direction of the state, she said, counties negotiated clauses into their labor agreements that allow them to change pay rates if state funding is reduced.

The union argues otherwise, pointing to contracts negotiated with various counties that labor leaders say prevent those counties from cutting salaries.

State Health and Human Services staffers who participated in the call said the Obama administration requested that SEIU representatives be included.The state officials said federal representatives sided with the state during the call.

But on April 30, California officials received a letter from the federal Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services informing them the wage cut must be rescinded.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has appealed to U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius to overturn the ruling. The state is awaiting her decision.
The thing about Limbaugh is you at least know where he stands, he makes no bones about it and doesn't seek to hide it or change it depending on polls. Limbaugh has the forum he has because enough people listen to him. Not that they all agree but that they listen and therefore he has a valid market unlike Air(head)America which had to be totally subsidized and couldn't earn a cup of coffee. Rush says he's not a Republican but a Conservative. Problem is that his actions don't bear that out for he never promotes a conservative Democrat even though there are a few.

As for the things Rush says. You have to listen for that's the only way you will know because most of the media and the Politicians (Democrats) skew or misrepresent what he actually says and what they report is really nothing close to what he actually said. Case in point is Rush's statement about wanting Obama to fail. What he really said was IF Obama's policies were to take the country in a direction away from the Constitution and freedom then he would want those policies to fail and not succeed. I agree what's wrong with that?
''If your message is so compelling, why don't you get sponsorship and get on the radio? You know, like the idiot Rush (the guy with the airwaves) did.''


It's not that easy to just get on the air. You gotta have money before hand. You got to have people, like producers, staff to work the phones, sales staff. Then you got to find radio stations that want to buy your program to air the show. Rush is a very rich man. He was rich before he ever got in to the talk show thing.
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''If your message is so compelling, why don't you get sponsorship and get on the radio? You know, like the idiot Rush (the guy with the airwaves) did.''
It's not that easy to just get on the air. You gotta have money before hand. You got to have people, like producers, staff to work the phones, sales staff. Then you got to find radio stations that want to buy your program to air the show. Rush is a very rich man. He was rich before he ever got in to the talk show thing.

If you think Rush was self-financed, you're delusional. Going on the air without plenty of financing behind you is a good way to go broke.
C'mon. If your message is so compelling, you will find sponsors. Just forget about Air America and all those other dunderheads. YOU can be the exception that proves the rule. Get the rest of the libtards on this forum to donate half their welfare checks to your endeavor.

Frankly, your response sounds a bit like whining.
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Originally posted by interventor1:
I will not defend Colin Powell's approval of Obama. However, the man has performed extreme services to the nation.

I remember too well, the hollow army of the seventies after Nam. Carter contributed to that situation so that we had a military with poor training, low morale and insufficient materiel to work with.

Tank gunners couldn't hit their targets, TOW and Dragon anti-tank weapons were scarce and the men who were to use them had little training and their marksmanship was poor. I never wish to see such a situation again in my lifetime.

It was General Powell and others, with President Reagan that gave the military the funds, equipment and training it needed to yield the superb outfit we saw fight in the first Iraq war and subsequent engagements.

I fear Obama will bring back that time.



''Cheney wants memos released that he says will justify waterboarding. Please release the memos. But, also release the minutes of the Energy Task Force meeting of March, 2001 that will prove that the invasion of Iraq was pre-determined before 9/11.''
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Old Yellah,

"Rush is a very rich man. He was rich before he ever got in to the talk show thing."

Prove that statement, or retract it!


"Limbaugh an idiot with airwaves"...???????

REALLY...??? Every day, Rush does a three hour broadcast, UNSCRIPTED, while Obama can't even give you his own biographical info without using a teleprompter and then he is going to stumble and stutter through half of that. Rush three hours unscripted versus the telepropter adicted Obama...If Rush is an idiot, Obama must have a vaccuum between his ears... Wink
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Originally posted by interventor1:
Old Yellah,

"Rush is a very rich man. He was rich before he ever got in to the talk show thing."

"Prove that statement, or retract it!"



"Why don't you disprove it?"

Anyone familiar with Rush's bio knows he started as a rather low paid radio host and slowly built up a fan base and thus, his salary. He had no inherited riches or previous profession that generated great wealth.

Old Yellah,

You've proven yourself woefully ignorant of subjects you pontificate on as well as the art of logic and refutation.

You made an unsubstantialed claim, which was readily proven false. When challenged, rather than defend and substantiate the point, you responded as a child might respond.

I accept your announcement of ignorance on the subject at hand and on the art of logic and reposte.
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AGREED! Rush did start humble and from a very small base. Rush was not rich when he started and if you were one that listened in 1988 you would have not recognized Rush as he is today. In those days he was striving to find the nitch that would excel him to greater things. He often opened his show to millionaires or people who had made money (not inherited or was gifted it) in hopes to analyze what they did. His early shows weren't near as political as his shows are now, far from it. Today they are about 100% political. Rush has also been a very good boss to his screeners and for the most part has kept screeners from the same family, which by the way are Black Americans even though Rush is accused of being Racist. Limbaugh may have his negatives but they are far fewer than the hype that his detractors lay upon him because they are either jealous of his success of they envy his political power or just don't like his Conservative positions. For the most part the media, and others that hate him, lie about his positions and what he says.

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