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"If she notified U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services that she was in the country illegally, state health officials might grant her full Medi-Cal coverage. Puente did so, her benefits were restored and she is now awaiting a fourth transplant at UCLA".


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-li...pr13,1,1803124.story


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I'm sure many on here will debate this issue based the patient's legal status in this country. That is fine, but we all should be aware of another factor.

Each hospital that performs such transplants has a board that authorizes transplants on the basis of patient need, etc. This board should look at the fact that the patient has aready had four livers, all of which failed. If I were on the board, I would not authorize a transplant for her over that of another needy applicant.

To illustrate this conumdrum, which would you choose:

1. A 35 year-old man with Hep C who is on Medicaid.

2. A 45 year-old woman who was exposed to chemicals in her job, but will go back to the same job.

3. A 55 year-old man whose liver was damaged by chronic alcohol abuse who has excellent insurance.
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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I'm sure many on here will debate this issue based the patient's legal status in this country. That is fine, but we all should be aware of another factor.

Each hospital that performs such transplants has a board that authorizes transplants on the basis of patient need, etc. This board should look at the fact that the patient has aready had four livers, all of which failed. If I were on the board, I would not authorize a transplant for her over that of another needy applicant.

To illustrate this conumdrum, which would you choose:

1. A 35 year-old man with Hep C who is on Medicaid.

2. A 45 year-old woman who was exposed to chemicals in her job, but will go back to the same job.

3. A 55 year-old man whose liver was damaged by chronic alcohol abuse who has excellent insurance.


Many American CITIZENS die from a lack of donor organs! The number of liver transplants for illegals should be ZERO! It's outrageous that even one illegal gets a transplant and the cost of a transplant is ENORMOUS, which is paid for with taxpayer money.
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Originally posted by get_involved:
Many American CITIZENS die from a lack of donor organs! The number of liver transplants for illegals should be ZERO! It's outrageous that even one illegal gets a transplant and the cost of a transplant is ENORMOUS, which is paid for with taxpayer money.


This is the exact anti-immigrant bitterness that Obama was referring to. And to think that many say it doesn't exist!?!?!?

We are all God's children, regardless of what country we were born in. To deny a person life because of citizenship is not only inhumane, but un-Christian-like.
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Originally posted by OneWorld1974:
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Originally posted by get_involved:
Many American CITIZENS die from a lack of donor organs! The number of liver transplants for illegals should be ZERO! It's outrageous that even one illegal gets a transplant and the cost of a transplant is ENORMOUS, which is paid for with taxpayer money.


This is the exact anti-immigrant bitterness that Obama was referring to. And to think that many say it doesn't exist!?!?!?

We are all God's children, regardless of what country we were born in. To deny a person life because of citizenship is not only inhumane, but un-Christian-like.


I'm pretty sure the Mexican government could afford to throw a few bucks to offset this cost, but they surely won't. And we perhaps are all God's children, regardless of what country we were born in. I won't deny a person life; I just don't want to have to pay for saving it. And since it's here in California, I will certainly have to, which I completely resent. I'm sure the UCLA medical school would appreciate any cash YOU, in your generosity, could throw their way to help offset the cost of the treatment. Let's see if you have the courage of your convictions.

And I am bloody well bitter about illegal immigration.
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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I'm sure many on here will debate this issue based the patient's legal status in this country. That is fine, but we all should be aware of another factor.

Each hospital that performs such transplants has a board that authorizes transplants on the basis of patient need, etc. This board should look at the fact that the patient has aready had four livers, all of which failed. If I were on the board, I would not authorize a transplant for her over that of another needy applicant.

To illustrate this conumdrum, which would you choose:

1. A 35 year-old man with Hep C who is on Medicaid.

2. A 45 year-old woman who was exposed to chemicals in her job, but will go back to the same job.

3. A 55 year-old man whose liver was damaged by chronic alcohol abuse who has excellent insurance.


Not number 2 since she's gonna go back and screw up the transplanted liver.

Not number 3 because he had a choice not to screw his up but did anyway.

Number one would get my vote.

All that being said, I KNOW which one it would really be (#3) since we've already seen it with musicians (David Crosby, Phil Lesh) and movie stars (Jim Nabors, Larry Hagman). He who has the most money gets the transplant. It ain't right, it just is.

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