Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

unless you worked in one of my field offices or washed my plane I don't know. maybe so.

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YOUR field offices? YOUR plane?

Semi,

I suspect QDs biggest problem with his plane was keeping the rubber band powering the propeller tightly wound.  Unlike himself!

Originally Posted by teyates:

Tell me more about this circumcision machine, sounds like a good investment, but the Jewish mohel Union may get snuffed out of existence....haha

Seriously, you believe that $15 an hour for employees plus benefits, for unskilled labor in a fast food restaurant is a doable business, and one that would allow no significant increase in the costs of those products? you are being serious and not pulling my leg?

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Just don't hire old "Shakes" Cohen for the next bris. 

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

because that's what their "skill set" is worth....

Seriously?  A Masters is only worth THAT?  What a crock of $ # ! T....

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i gave you the "canned republican answer"... make sure you vote against your best interest, come next election.

So are you saying that basic Economics that is taught in colleges all across the country is a "canned republican answer"? LOL

 

I'm guessing that none of your "4" college degrees came from the College of Business. Am I right?

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Some jobs aren't meant to support a adult or a family.  For example yours.  i imagine it does keeps you well supplied with cheap Mexican dirt weed. 

 

Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Some jobs aren't meant to support a adult or a family.  For example yours.  i imagine it does keeps you well supplied with cheap Mexican dirt weed. 

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poor chuckles... all he can do is try to insult me. what a pitiful existence you must live. to "attack" someone on the internet. you must really be a badass.

now, welcome to the "ignore" feature. you earned it. idiot.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Crash, labor is no different than any other good or service. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If there are people lined up willing to do the job for $8 an hour then the job isn't worth $10 an hour. It is the most basic of economic principles. Why do you think wages for people in the engineering and healthcare fields are increasing? It is because there is increasing demand for the "skill set" that these people possess. However, if you want to continue to contend that basic economics is "bs" then by all means please do.

 

Wages will go up as unemployment drops. Back in 05-06 when unemployment was below 5% I remember clearly that the fast food joints in Florence were offering $9 an hour. That is because the pool of labor was much smaller at that time. 

 

As a consumer, you would never pay more than something is worth. However, you and people like you expect a business owner to do that very thing. It is lunacy.

 

As for your question about "paying someone a decent wage for a decent day's work", that is highly subjective. Who determines what this "decent" wage is? If gov't forces employers to pay more in wages then the market will simply adjust accordingly to maintain profitability.

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Crash, labor is no different than any other good or service. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If there are people lined up willing to do the job for $8 an hour then the job isn't worth $10 an hour. It is the most basic of economic principles. Why do you think wages for people in the engineering and healthcare fields are increasing? It is because there is increasing demand for the "skill set" that these people possess. However, if you want to continue to contend that basic economics is "bs" then by all means please do.

 

Wages will go up as unemployment drops. Back in 05-06 when unemployment was below 5% I remember clearly that the fast food joints in Florence were offering $9 an hour. That is because the pool of labor was much smaller at that time. 

 

As a consumer, you would never pay more than something is worth. However, you and people like you expect a business owner to do that very thing. It is lunacy.

 

As for your question about "paying someone a decent wage for a decent day's work", that is highly subjective. Who determines what this "decent" wage is? If gov't forces employers to pay more in wages then the market will simply adjust accordingly to maintain profitability.

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do you want people off the "government dole" or is that just a conservative talking point?

do you think it's "ok" for we , as taxpayers, to pay for about 1/3 of walmart's work force?

what do you do for a living wage Farley? I'll bet you are afraid to say. we will get dire to perform some of his pierre cardin forensics on you to determine what you contribute to society. Being the repub there are not many slots of good intention known to exist that one would dare hazard for a curricula  vitae.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

you're never gonna "get it"... the republican "logic" has a hold on you!

you can "second guess" my education all you wish..

you can preach all the "skill set" BS you wanna spout.

what's wrong with paying a person a decent wage for a decent day's work?

i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question, without using the word "skill set"! ha!

Crash, labor is no different than any other good or service. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If there are people lined up willing to do the job for $8 an hour then the job isn't worth $10 an hour. It is the most basic of economic principles. Why do you think wages for people in the engineering and healthcare fields are increasing? It is because there is increasing demand for the "skill set" that these people possess. However, if you want to continue to contend that basic economics is "bs" then by all means please do.

 

Wages will go up as unemployment drops. Back in 05-06 when unemployment was below 5% I remember clearly that the fast food joints in Florence were offering $9 an hour. That is because the pool of labor was much smaller at that time. 

 

As a consumer, you would never pay more than something is worth. However, you and people like you expect a business owner to do that very thing. It is lunacy.

 

As for your question about "paying someone a decent wage for a decent day's work", that is highly subjective. Who determines what this "decent" wage is? If gov't forces employers to pay more in wages then the market will simply adjust accordingly to maintain profitability.

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do you want people off the "government dole" or is that just a conservative talking point?

do you think it's "ok" for we , as taxpayers, to pay for about 1/3 of walmart's work force?

Forcing employers to pay more will accomplish nothing. 

 

Let's take a small business owner with 10 employees who he is paying $8 an hour. Now let's say the gov't comes in and tells the business owner he has to pay $10 an hour now. That means that the business owner's costs will increase by $3,200 a month resulting in an annual pay cut of $38,400($3200 x 12) for the business owner. 

 

Do you think the owner of the business is going to take a $38,400 cut in their take home pay or will they cut back on employee hours? The business owner could also decide that operating the business is no longer worth the time, headache, and cost so they may close. 

 

The best course of action is for gov't to create an environment that encourages investment, risk taking, and entrepreneurship because as more people go to work and unemployment drops then wages will naturally go up.

Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

And if it weren't for Wal-Mart we would be paying 100% of what accounts for their work force.  

Farley if the frog had wings he wouldn't bump his azz when he hops. that response of yours is typical pub logic. flawed

"The best course of action is for gov't to create an environment that encourages investment, risk taking, and entrepreneurship because as more people go to work and unemployment drops then wages will naturally go up".[powers logic]

     Why take chances when there is plenty of free data out there to eliminate chance. Gambling that you can run a business not paying the unskilled workers with which you intend to build your business is called suicide not risk. LOL What do you do for a living wage. We'll get you an appointment with dire along with Farley. LOL

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"The best course of action is for gov't to create an environment that encourages investment, risk taking, and entrepreneurship because as more people go to work and unemployment drops then wages will naturally go up".[powers logic]

     Why take chances when there is plenty of free data out there to eliminate chance. Gambling that you can run a business not paying the unskilled workers with which you intend to build your business is called suicide not risk. LOL What do you do for a living wage. We'll get you an appointment with dire along with Farley. LOL

Are you trying to say that wages don't increase as unemployment drops?

 

Your entire statement is mess of sentence fragments and ramblings. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

CO sez"i have yet to find one conservative who could answer that question..."

 

Sort of like asking a liberal democrat to describe what "fair tax" is.  None of them can tell you an answer.  They only know it is more than what they are paying.

Objectivity is often clouded by looking at things from only one perspective.

t, i agree... you , and the other conservatives, should try to see it from another point of view.

it's not ok to be on the government dole, but it is ok if you're walmart, or any large corporation, to keep people on the government payroll.  it's not ok, to be on government assistance. it is ok for a corporation to pay so little , you require government assistance. conservative logic 101.

yep, basic conservative principles, it's ok for the corporation to be on the government handout, just not the people.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

t, i agree... you , and the other conservatives, should try to see it from another point of view.

it's not ok to be on the government dole, but it is ok if you're walmart, or any large corporation, to keep people on the government payroll.  it's not ok, to be on government assistance. it is ok for a corporation to pay so little , you require government assistance. conservative logic 101.

yep, basic conservative principles, it's ok for the corporation to be on the government handout, just not the people.

So should gov't force large companies to pay more for labor and not small companies? 

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

t, i agree... you , and the other conservatives, should try to see it from another point of view.

it's not ok to be on the government dole, but it is ok if you're walmart, or any large corporation, to keep people on the government payroll.  it's not ok, to be on government assistance. it is ok for a corporation to pay so little , you require government assistance. conservative logic 101.

yep, basic conservative principles, it's ok for the corporation to be on the government handout, just not the people.

So should gov't force large companies to pay more for labor and not small companies? 

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why would they?

 

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

t, i agree... you , and the other conservatives, should try to see it from another point of view.

it's not ok to be on the government dole, but it is ok if you're walmart, or any large corporation, to keep people on the government payroll.  it's not ok, to be on government assistance. it is ok for a corporation to pay so little , you require government assistance. conservative logic 101.

yep, basic conservative principles, it's ok for the corporation to be on the government handout, just not the people.

So should gov't force large companies to pay more for labor and not small companies? 

You know, WalMart, Home Depot, Lowe's, CostCo and the entire low priced and low wage paying big box Chinese distribution houses would not exist if not for the greed and ignorant public that elects the politicians who use the process with impunity.

It is a vicious cycle.  You want these high paying wages for working in a place that only survives by providing low prices.  The same places that most of the people who get a government check frequent.  Without those discount warehouse full of Chinese imports, the person who is living on a fixed income would not be able to provide for themselves and their family.  in order for these places to provide the type of wages you want to see, the prices will have to increase, therefore putting a bigger burden on those in the lower income bracket, which will put a greater demand on the government to supplement their entitlements.

It is a vicous circle that is not so simple to fix.  Simply "paying" these people more money wil not rememdy the situation, since the rpices go up, and their buying power will decrease.

I too would like to see corporations such as Walmart who have a huge number of people who get governmental insurance have to help supplemnt that in some form, but again I do not have a clear cut answer and neither do any of the rest of these arm chair economists on here, yourself included.

But again, like I said, asking you to define "fair tax"  is as a legitimate task as asking someone to define "living wage". 

t if the government paid you more per head you could buy larger ships. Those ships require labor. Higher wages then become the cause for  a stronger  economy. it's the greed factor that just burns you ass up when someone else makes a buck. Typical repub thinking.

It is not "burning my ass" up for someone to make a dollar, that is the mirror you are looking at QD. As to your premise of the buying a bigger ship and hiring more people to sail it, are you not advocating government supplementation of the business? such as tax breaks and incentives?  because to me that is exactly what you are saying.  They do something similar in China. If a company is producing a product for sale here in the US and they need to do it cheaply, the government will supplement that's company's coffers to help pay employees so that the company can make it cheaper.

I personally think that you are conflicted and are cofused about what you want.  you think the ship needs to be bigger, but you want everyone on it to be captains or first mates and it does not work that way.  if EVERYONE on the ship invested their own money in buying it, equal parts, then they would all be entitled to help steer it, but that is not what happens.

Like I said, you are the one displaying jealousy about someone making a dollar, not me.  My ass is fine.

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