Lurch makes critical blunder, Putin takes advantage...

So are you guys p i s s e d that there might not be a strike? If they can force Assad to give up his chemical weapons then that would be a win for the US. Isn't that what we wanted all along? I don't think it was a blunder. I doubt Kerry says anything that was not decided on before he spoke. This is not his first rodeo. 

And now Russia looks like the savior after jumping at the opportunity to broker a deal that keeps the US from sticking their nose into the middle east again.  Why didn't Kerry make the offer to Syria instead of floating it in an off the cuff remark?  Why, if that was his plan before he made the statement, didn't he present it in a way that gave the US credit for the solution and not Russia.

Flying by the seat of their pants and hoping for the best......

You can't be serious. He was the Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee for many years. He has traveled the globe as a US Senator and met with countless foreign leaders. You can try and down play his experience, but even the Republicans in congress didn't disapprove of his nomination for SOS. 

As I said, he didn't say anything that had not be decided on way before he spoke. This was a plan. It worked beautifully. Maybe it is over some peoples heads. 

Why would he define his strike? That makes no sense. Especially in light of the outcomes we are seeing now. He didn't deny the red line comment. This is what he said last year."We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized." This is what he said about that statement a few days ago."I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line."  When he said "we" he was talking about the international community. If you search for his complete statement that day you will see that is who he was referring to when he said "we". He is still saying the same thing today. No denial, just clarifying that chemical warfare is against international law and something we agreed upon a very long time ago. 

I believe the whole point of this threat of military action is to keep chemical weapons out of the hands of the Islamist. Why do you think the UN would just turn over chemical weapons to the rebels if they win the civil war? Putin knew that he could not win this fight. When he saw a chance to pull his own butt out of the fire he jumped on it. Agreeing to helping the UN secure the chemical weapons is the best option he has. Do you really think he wanted to be on the opposite side of this fight? President Obama backed him into a corner and it looks like it worked. 

If putin saves obama from this great blunder and makes obama look good, what is obama going to give putin for saving him. Is obama going to give up more of our nukes or what. Putin will demand a payback for saving obama.

I'm referring to the entire administration, not just Kerry.  I think you give them more credit than they deserve.  Obama didn't have UN support, he didn't even have British support. He sure didn't have support of the American people and was a LONG WAY OFF from having the support of Congress.  Asaad was not worried about a limited American strike.  He already moved all the assets that were important to him.  All we were going to do is punish his regime by destroying some of the equipment that he didn't really care for anyway though these delayed strikes. 

Ive been wrong before, but I predict that there will be no vote if this new plan is implemented.

Putin didn't do this to save Obama and could care less about having the favor returned.  He did this to make Obama look weak.  Russia is brokering a deal that the US couldn't in his eyes.  Makes him look like a much stronger leader than Obama and the US in general.  In Putins eyes, Obama made an empty threat that he didn't follow though with because he didn't have the guts to do it himself and he couldn't get the support of the American public or Congress.  You can bet that he will play that card for years to come in the middle east......

This happened so quickly, that some might miss the fact that Kerry didn't intend for this to be a solution -

Speaking in London earlier today, John Kerry appeared to issue a long-shot ultimatum to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, suggesting that if he turned over his complete stockpile of chemical weapons within the next week he could avoid an attack from the United States. The State Department, however, would later walk back those comments, saying they were a "rhetorical argument" and not an actual proposal, adding that Assad "cannot be trusted" to take such action.

I think that there is something that everyone has forgotten except Assad and Putin. Its this whole civil war thing. There is no way the UN will allow the large number of inspectors and their support staff that will be needed into a country where all sides might have reason to shoot them. Putin has done no one but his country and his allies any favors. Obama may be grasping for anything that might save his image, but this won't help. Barnyard fowl will be calling their cowards "Obama's".

Jank sez "This was a plan. It worked beautifully. Maybe it is over some peoples heads."

Haha.....you must be kidding us....we are all too stupid to see the "brilliance" of this administration.  We all should be basking in the glory of the light that is Obama and his minions......haha...Priceless

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Of course, the Republicans in the senate didn't fight Kerry's appointment -- a long term Democrat leaves the Senate to replace another of doubtful accomplishment.

So, now Obama's we means the world, instead of the imperial we meaning "me" that he usually uses!  Sorry, just another case of backpedaling from a non-tenable position he placed himself in.

We are supposed to believe Obama planned this entire scenario -- even the Syfy channel wouldn't buy that -- worse script than Sharknado.

Now, the plan is for UN troops to enter a nation involved in a civil war and secure all chemical weapons and the plants?  Then, at some point transport all the apparatus out of Syria to be destroyed.  That's s security nightmare.  More likely, Assad wins and demands the weapons back, or the rebels win and do same. 

And, with Obama's record, you believe he really planned it all -- line up for the Flavor-aid.